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mircea_popescu: and
they'll have
the unmitigated audacity
to call it "the quantum winter" as opposed
to "the just desserts after a decade of fraudulent pseudoscientific claims" and/or "what happens when ponzi schemes deflate"
mircea_popescu: MIT idiots were going
to be successful next decade every decade since 1950.
then "winter" "happened" because
totally.
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit omfg. i am not PRETENDING
the problem doesn't exist.
the problem does factually not exist.
mircea_popescu: "It isn't easy
to build a large general-purpose quantum computer, but many people publicly working on it seem
to
think
that
they'll be successful next decade. Maybe
there will be serious obstacles
that slow down or stop
this success, but
there's clearly a serious risk
to RSA and ECC, and it isn't sensible risk management
to pretend
that
the problem doesn't exist."
mircea_popescu: the fact
that
they were mined in
the past is no guarantee
they would be mined
today
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform everything can still be done.
the poiint is
that a hole large enough
to fit
the earlier blocks will result in a hole
too large
today,
that'd admit
things
that won't get mined.
mircea_popescu: "A class-action lawsuit alleges
the state Department of Environmental Quality didn't
treat
the water for corrosion, in accordance with federal law, and because so many service lines
to Flint are made of lead,
the noxious element leached into
the water of
the city's homes."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this is actually not something
that can be done anymore i fear. mining criteria changed ~3
times
mircea_popescu: this is utterly what
the dawn of civilisaiton looks like. next, nobody could have predicted pissing on
the electric fence.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
these fuctards. moved water intake from lake
to river with no further precautions, on old lead lines! HOLY SHIT.
there is extant roman
text as
to
the idiocy of
this move.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but
this is not a counterarghumnet, on
the contrary.
testing suite may help
there
too.
diana_coman: fwiw
the google
thing looked all right
to me re features, but I wasn't
too sure re who made it, lol
mircea_popescu: having a
trb-test suite is a good move, because even if dissidence is a b-a
tradition, nevertheless it allows a common basis
to make communication useful.
mod6: i
think i'll have
to drive out a poc of one of
these frameworks at some point. not now
though,
too much other stuff
to get done first.
mod6: just started diving into what's out
there for C++
that has a bit more meat
to it.
mod6: diana_coman had one in mind
that was super lightweight, looked ok for doing assertions.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I asked mod6 if he knew of some good
testing
tools for cpp as I am not up
to date with
the landscape on
that for cpp
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's actually better
to pick a one
thing and get everyone
to use
that.
assbot: GitHub - evolutional/utest: An ultra-lightweight, micro unit
test framework for C99 presented as a single-header ... (
http://bit.ly/1Sgi6eb )
mircea_popescu: the problem is "meaningfully" is a very slippery
term. shit can be quite meaningful
to humans.
mircea_popescu: you can not know what can be
tested meaningfully until after you have done so.
mod6: ok,
thanks
to you both. sorry for
the diversion here, we can discuss in
the future.
mircea_popescu: mod6
the principle is sound. i have nfi as
to
the choice, but
the principle is sound.
mod6: so
to
that point, it is nice
to run a regression suite when any changes are made.
mod6: i wasn't
too clued on C++
testing frameworks. but mockito is pretty helpful with stuff, so something similar in C++ space would be nice.
mircea_popescu: "Linux Requirements
These are
the base requirements
to build and use Google
Test from a source package (as described below):
mircea_popescu: so basically, it IS definitionally better
than
the boost suite.
mircea_popescu: In addition
to many internal projects at Google, Google
Test is also used by
the following notable projects:
The Chromium projects (behind
the Chrome browser and Chrome OS).
The LLVM compiler. Protocol Buffers, Google's data interchange format.
The OpenCV computer vision library.
mod6: anyway,
this is all food for
thought; planting a seed. we'll have
to revisit
this later.
mircea_popescu: mod6 understand, i'm not going
to necessarily act on my prejudices. just being upfront.
mod6: what if
there was a different mock framework
that wasn't
mircea_popescu: which is probably
the contrary result
to what
they intended.
mod6: anyway, boost has its own unit
testing abilities, which is what
the current
test are built with --
the allure of a mock framework here
though, could be helpful.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform part of
the democratic lie.
that "tax is payment" ,
that "law is agreement",
that "authority is legitimate" etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform doh.
tax is set by
the cattle ability
to pay, nothing else. same
tax is collected in new york and bahrein or w/e.
mod6: i might have
to go on a wild goose chase with
this some
time, post release when I have more
time.
mircea_popescu: or anyway,
try and explain as best as possible
the externalities here ?
mod6: and it has a mock framework
that can be utilized as well, and
this could be really powerful.
mod6: well, i built some automated
tests in cucumber/perl for V. but i'm saying for bitcoind itself.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't understand
this, so flint been using lead pipes like... all places ever. what is
the issue ?
mod6: any one have any strong feelings on googletest & googlemock as a comprehensive
testing framework for
trb ?
mircea_popescu: kalash fires as well if
triggered pulled by monkey as by man.
mircea_popescu: what appeal ?
there's no appeal.
they just happen
to have a point.
mircea_popescu: i had no intention of fucking him anyway. unless he were
to hire my as his hygienist, which is not something i do anyway, it;s really not my concern.