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Anduck: why won't nefario atleast give a list of assests and share ownerships
mircea_popescu: but that's a technical point. what'd you expect be happening to glbse assets ? noffin much.
gribble: Error: Please only choose at most one result option at a time.
smickles: i don't think the ticker code has been modified in a while
smickles: how does it work? isn't it essentially the formula we discussed (idunno) a week ago?
smickles: heh, I had a little help developing it
mircea_popescu: doesn't it sound a lot more important this way ?
mircea_popescu: According to my guy he used a hook called "after_commit" where needed, but I'm currently reviewing the code. Meanwhile if you can execute it that means he didn't do enough!
mircea_popescu: "Finally to answer your specific example: a user balance won't be able to be withdrawn to negative because we would have checked it (and the balances work without bugs)."
mircea_popescu: whew. for a moment there i thought we're at 10 now.
jurov: sounds almost like a bounty :)
smickles: pput a sock in it
mircea_popescu: Hi Mushoz, I understand this concern, there was a general lack of security features, that we tried to correct to the best, and that's why we're in beta. Hey, we already had a bug with Davout, because no check of the leverage!
mircea_popescu: "I'm having mixed feeling towards this project. The security measures you have implemented seem really great, and inspire great confidence in your service. Using the source of a service that had some major issues, not so much."
mircea_popescu: I handed over to the developper and meanwhile added a routine to check and correct users leverage.
mircea_popescu: im not sure there is a rss feed of dividends ><
jurov: mostly done it using RSS instead and that's a bit different... so i'm on my own anyway
mircea_popescu: but as a matter of principle, i don't think it's a good idea to allow such a thing. you will conceivably end up with 2mb of signatureporn
smickles: No amendment, change, or modification to this agreement will be effective or enforceable unless the text of it is appended to the end of a copy of this agreement and any previous amendments, changes, or modifications, which is signed by all parties involved, and signed by all parties involved.
Azelphur: jurov: I wrote a bot that does the same thing, it's on github at https://github.com/Azelphur/BitcoinAssets
kakobrekla: give me a sec or so im in the middle of something
smickles: he used to chat there a little, then he idled for months
Doffx: Of the girl with a title that says " I told you so"
Doffx: I'm currently writing a mircea_popescu tell all book from the Logs.
mircea_popescu: even with no consideration of any law, it's not something you can ask of people any more than you can ask them to build you a house out of dry sand
mircea_popescu: BTC-Mining, smickles : i'm just pointing out it's inhuman to expect someone to do this manually. esp on a high volume asset.
smickles: yeah, public trading is a no-go (in 'merica)
mircea_popescu: gigavps a ok that's useful.
BTC-Mining: <mircea_popescu> He'll have a list of which address holds how many shares. Someone with an address could sign his shares off to another address.
mircea_popescu: <gigavps> https://twitter.com/glbse << speaking of this, someone should make a copy. iirc you can delete tweets.
Doffx: Yeah but you should be able to get the ave trade numbers from it since it was a running transaction log
gigavps: smickles everyone who wants to get paid will probably need to agree to a new contract
smickles: how do you chang a contract without total concent tho?
gigavps: my main point is that without a buyback clause that can be executed, the contract would need to be changed
gigavps: and google cache doesn't have a cache of glbse.com/asset/view/GIGAMINING
gigavps: i guess we could use the mpex etf to come to a price
Doffx: I doubt mepex would allow a lot of them though
Doffx: I must have missed a post somewhere about something
thestringpuller: smickles to answer your question it should be live within 48 hours to a few people
smickles: thestringpuller: I'm sure we can come to a mutually benificial arrangement without the use of marketing ploys :)
smickles: jurov: that's a good offer, I hope you're extending that to all the glbse issuers
smickles: Doffx: let me draft up a contract for you to review then :)
smickles: mircea_popescu: if i get a contract from him saying that he sells them to me, i see no problem in it
mircea_popescu: a double wedding suicide with cannibalism & incest ?
mircea_popescu: a suicide ? a wedding ?
Doffx: It seems if I could get a number for my Sdice shares I could potentially get my btc back.
smickles: I can't verify that you are a share holder, so it's cruise-controll for now
mircea_popescu: course, smickles liquidated like a day before.
mircea_popescu: a, that.
Doffx: Just though it would be easy to transfer Paper shares to a log to retrieve them, but noooo...
mircea_popescu: Doffx now that'd be a problem.
mircea_popescu: how much did you lose by getting a free account ?
Doffx: If only you had given me a free account.
Doffx: S.Dice make a recovery?
mircea_popescu: mmm something like that, a day or two.
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 16 hours, 23 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <smickles> but it would be nice in a way, rent, phone, internet, car, insurance for this month, that'll be 200 btc by this date please :)
mircea_popescu: and re thestringpuller : i don't hate miner bonds. i just don't think they're a fit investment for the unsophisticated.
gigavps: mircea_popescu i glad to see you are in a joking mood today
Chaaang-Noi: matthew hates me with a passion
Chaaang-Noi: i am a giant cock
gigavps: because it makes me look like a scammer in most outcomes
thestringpuller: trust is a powerful thing
gigavps: and there is no point in making a new contract if i can't reliably know who owns what
gigavps: but they won't know until a new contract is made and agreed upon
Chaaang-Noi: it is a mess
Chaaang-Noi: you must have talked to a lawyer :)
gigavps: because I cannot act as a broker or exchange
Chaaang-Noi: giga, make sure you talk to your lawyer before you act as a broker
Chaaang-Noi: this whole things is a mess
gigavps: Gigamining's contract is dependent on their being a highest traded price over the last 15 days
thestringpuller: there is a case nefario may decide to not release the db info
gigavps: if i start a claims process, how will i know who is not lying?
PsychoticBoy: in a sunken ship ;)
copumpkin: cause you know, you walk up to a consulate and say "yo, I wanna move my illegal bitcoin exchange to your country, gimme a work visa"
thestringpuller: the world is a big place
copumpkin: I think he's a weasel and incompetent
copumpkin: it's not the kind of thing you can make a stand on
thestringpuller: he's a coward ultimately. no loyalty. loyalty is what will make or break this community. there is a saying in the orient, "loyalty to the end" if you truly believe in your cause you will die for it
pigeons: yeah i think its more of a betrayal than had it been someone who never had presented that they would fight for the cause
thestringpuller: the glbse fiasco is driving a wedge between the community
thestringpuller: i used to be a freelance hacker. then i needed medical insurance
pigeons: more freelancer than a "business"
thestringpuller: i tend to get along with a lot of people
Chaang-Noi: i kinda wonder if the "double payment fail" was just a stalling tactict.
Diablo-D3: 2pm: why the fuck am I in a ditch, and why does my side hurt, and whats with this bag of ice
gigavps: has anyone talked with nefario about a timeline for the shutdown of glbse?
mircea_popescu: wtf, we get quantum computers can't even grow a decent banana ;/
Chaang-Noi: i wanted to see if a transaction was good
EskimoBob: mircea_popescu: I was reading that "Breakthrough Offers New Route to Large-Scale Quantum Computing" . BTC or any crypto-blah is not fucked yet but it's getting closer. 7 more years maybe and some lab has it up and working... and then BTC will become a blip in e-pages of history
Azelphur: go to local walmarts and ask if you can have a large cardboard box
Chaaang-Noi: seems like a lot of work
thestringpuller: so more like "I'm a btc 'investor'"
mircea_popescu: yeah. it's just an intellectually lazy way to think "oh, im a btc entrepreneur"
thestringpuller: As my boss says, "Behind every successful person lies a pack of haters"
mircea_popescu: no, you were actively trying to sucker someone into buying them a few weeks back.
noagendamarket: it was more like 500 a week
mircea_popescu: noagendamarket even if we were to take the 500 a month figure seriously, it still doesn't pay the rent.
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Good news. We have figured out a solution for this problem. Bitmit is not going to be sold. Business as usual. We are sorry for the insecurity this may have caused."
Diablo-D3: just find a thread and be like BAM
Diablo-D3: dare someone to post that as a reply to goat on the forums