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copumpkin: but I can send you a tiny fraction of a bitcoin if I choose
copumpkin: I honestly don't see why we need whole numbers of shares
mircea_popescu: EmanuelDeOrtego i think the "someone would buy 2000 shares either way" is flat wrong
mircea_popescu: yeah tbh i think things are fine as they are.
rdponticelli: I just don't agree
rdponticelli: <EmanuelDeOrtego> I am sick of people tossing in pennies thinking they are doing something productive
rdponticelli: I was answering them
rdponticelli: Yes, that's just another thing I like about mpex
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli this is why i say share prices should be 10^-2 to 10^-5 or so
rdponticelli: I think that lowering the barrier is good
EmanuelDeOrtego: I am sick of people tossing in pennies thinking they are doing something productive
mircea_popescu: i think it had a server reboot
kakobrekla: you/i
kakobrekla: well i guess it depends when you last looked
kakobrekla: i used to be schizophrenic, but we are ok now
mircea_popescu: i think ciuciu might be on to someting here.
smickles: i actually tried to get carv.er, but they denied me
mircea_popescu: anyway, if current grown continues for a year or so maybe i get .mpex tld
smickles: if i coughed up hundreds of k
smickles: usagi: you suggest i spring for a single letter tld?
smickles: i'll just have to tweak a little bit then
smickles: i was going to make smex look pretty similar to that
usagi: i'm hedged, so I am fine either way :p
smickles: < bitfoo> yeah, SS needs a stock-split desperately. (hint hint smickles) << i'll see if there is any objection. Do you have a ratio in mind?
mircea_popescu: i c
EB250: damn.. I need one with divs
kakobrekla: EB250, maybe ill fix it when i have some time
mircea_popescu: im wondering if i shouldd bother to make a thing for that ?
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla does anyone much use the !pl thing ? (by looking at the logs i mean).
Chaang-Noi: i have atleast one of everything he makes
Chaang-Noi: i have many :)
rg: the one i won
rg: i got my casacius coin
rg: i told -otc already but
usagi: I don't want to compete with you
mircea_popescu: usagi i doubt you have better use of your time than to compete with me.
usagi: I have no time.
Luceo: usagi: Do it then :P I'll use it
usagi: I could design a system more secure than mpex that was easier to use
usagi: I have a background in computer security.
mircea_popescu: sigh. i am getting sick of discussing security with people who don't actually know wtf security is.
rg: i think everyone should relax
mircea_popescu: and i actually have measures in place for that to happen.
mircea_popescu: usagi yes, i could
mircea_popescu: do you understand that i can sign the whole database with each account's key and dump it in the open
mircea_popescu: dude srsly. i'm not the one that's down half the time, stop being silly.
Chaang-Noi: i party as i only sell assets not buy them!
usagi: But I don't see the point of having to manually sign orders with gpg. That's backend stuff.
Chaang-Noi: yeah i know
usagi: I have GPG
Chaang-Noi: i once had real money...
Chaang-Noi: yeah i saw that
Chaang-Noi: im glad i sold my 150k then :)
mircea_popescu: usagi i clearly said to you : you make 7.5k on mpex and 1k on glbse. what's not clear about this ?
usagi: I asked where I could make more money listing; I didn't even imply that one server was better. But all I hear from you, mircea, is subterfuge.
mircea_popescu: <rg> what's the point of flinging mud << i dunno man. guy comes in here wants to talkabout how mpex is shit
Luceo: I like both
usagi: I asked a question.
rg: usagi: i made more on MPEX than GLBSE
usagi: Can you guarantee I'd raise more money listing on MPEX than GLBSE or any other exchange?
usagi: Mircea; Let's say I come to you with an IPO proposal with a company that makes 1,000 btc a month.
mircea_popescu: <usagi> You think so, but are you sure? << i've been on the web with thart exact site for > 5 years.
rg: but you know what i mean
BTCHero: well I am a commoner, so I only hear the same nohing from pirate over and over
usagi: I hear one thing and then the exact opposite from someone else.
mircea_popescu: <usagi> The US is not going to ask for mircea's extradition any more than greece will <<< actually, i think i have the legal matters involved with running the exchange pretty well covered.
usagi: I have sources just like everyone else does. the problem with sources is that they are not always reliable, btchero.
usagi: No news I can repeat in public anyway ;-)
usagi: I don't know.
usagi: But some people want out now, so I'm buying back what I can until the default is obvious
Luceo: Since I noticed there's been no interest in the default period even though pirate said he will pay it
Luceo: I do like the higher level of security, I just don't see the point in making big holdings there when they're near-impossible to move
Luceo: usagi: I would use mpex far more if it had more users and more movement
usagi: And for my extra risk what do I get? I pay more for the security
usagi: Same with satoshidice, now I don't just have to worry about 1 person I need to worry about 3.
usagi: I can tell you right now RG I'd triple my investment in your company if it was on GLBSE. As it stands there's extra risk involved, and extra fees because brendio
usagi: I mean just being in this channel it's obvious
Luceo: But I think the fee puts people off and herds them towards glbse, paying $200 to join an exchange with only $50k daily volume is a lot
Luceo: I am
BTCHero: I am not a serious enough trader to spend 20 btc just to get on mpex
usagi: the fee is nothing, I paid 32btc just to issue nyan
usagi: I'm not sure it's the fee
Luceo: I dont mind paying the fee, many people will
usagi: I gave it some time and thought
usagi: I care to the point that I don't :p
usagi: So that's how I evaluate it; not credible.
usagi: I also pointed out to him that running an unlicensed securities exchange is illegal in the USA. "So?"
Luceo: Though I'm sure GLBSE has sensible hot wallet limits
Luceo: I think the main issue he does get right here is under 'Server rooted'
usagi: I told him this but he just told me to post a comment...
Luceo: I'd like to turn that on but the BB client doesnt seem to work
Luceo: Also, for some reason your Google authentication doesn't work with Blackberry, I always get told my token is invalid. :/
Luceo: nefario: Fair enough. I think some of these points are non-points (it's not the duty of the exchange to regulate whether the stocks are fraudulent or become so)
nefario: Luceo: I've better things to do than spend my time making rebuttals to every piece of shit that rolls out of that guy mouth.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm going to eat. ttyl.
mircea_popescu: you don't know the future in this respect, i'm affraid.
nefario: I couldn't
mircea_popescu: buncha weaseling. "i'm not involved"
mircea_popescu: i don't care what you say. answer the fucken question already
nefario: I said I'm not involved