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these additional notes: New blood..
mod6: i guess, my node is already sync'd so i'm not going
through
that part of a full sync atm.
mod6: my node doesn't choke at all, and seems
to even see blocks before btc.blockr.io sometimes.
shinohai: I use
tmux but sometimes `& disown` and it works fine.
mircea_popescu: nohup catches
the sighup and lets
the program continue
mod6: do i not see
that same issue because i run with `&' in a screen session?
pete_dushenski: it requires constant babysitting
to watch for a jam and restart so
that it ever keeps eating blox
pete_dushenski:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2016#1404237 << i was having
this exact problem with 99996k (v1) box. it was alternating between choking on bastards, like
thestringpuller's node, and offing itself for no apparent reason. just stopping it now and about
to rebuild with mod6's latest script but it's
taken ~3 weeks and is only at 325k due
to
this on-again-off-again shenanigans
☝︎ mod6: from just looking around
tho, i noticed
that
the V graph on my wall is out of date.
jurov: but i must say,
the apron is sexy, suits you
jurov: mod6: can you
take photo with your desk and V rolled out?
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mod6: i
think i need a bigger desk
mod6: im over here rollin up
that new version of V.
mod6: eek. sorry, no idea how i just pasted
that in
there.
jurov: yes you don't have block nor
transaction
danielpbarron: you can get bogged down by
them from
time
to
time but it should eventually move on
danielpbarron: i
think it just means you don't have
the block
that
they spend from yet
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed 23757d60dd <<< do
these affect anything?
mats: is everyone asleep at
the wheel?
jurov: and interesting why price went *up * in absence of
the bot
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shinohai: also should have a much improved status page running in a few days, Im gonna wait for full sync
to
turn it on
mod6: yeah,
that'd be fine.
shinohai: kk I'll just
test as-is for now
mod6: it'd be rather difficult
to do anyway if you wanted
to, you'd have
to stop mid-script and
then update V,
then continue.
mod6: oooh, you mean
the beta patches? naw, you shouldn't need
to do
that.
shinohai: mod6: is
this version already with patched V ?
mod6: we're gonna have
to go
through
this again here not
too long from now when V v99995 comes out, but hopefully
that'll be
the last
time for a while.
mod6: shinohai: awesome,
thanks!
mod6: after you build with
the above script, you should end up with
the following manifiest if you follow along with
this find command as such:
http://dpaste.com/2VFXNFX.txt mod6: so lastnight, I
tested an updated version of
the automated build script 'build-bitcoind-V99996.sh' --
the version
that's currently deedbotted is no longer ok since I reground alfs patches.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hoping
that mod6 will save you from inclusion arbitrarily is a lot fucking weaker
than just having
the proper control of only signing in
the
test branch, and choosing where yhou sign << yah,
this may be a really good idea. right now, we're livin on
the edge.
BingoBoingo: Come on, we all know why
them gubmint veterinarians want us
to feed our cows
their magnets...
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 19:42:13; mircea_popescu: well
that's what it was, some derps came out with what struck me on first sight as a sort of "gasoline saving magnets", ie
these superthin meshes
that'll "protect your monitor from nsa spying"
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 19:28:29; mircea_popescu: by which logic faraday cage no longer needs
to be grounded.
mircea_popescu: but i still can't be arsed
to do
the actual math for it, so whatevs.
mircea_popescu: no, i just said
that i would expect on
the basis of guesswork for indium -group metals
to work out as
the
thinnest functional mesh
jurov: and you imagined your monitor emits x-rays for nsa
to spy on and started considering shielding foir
these?
mircea_popescu: well
that's what it was, some derps came out with what struck me on first sight as a sort of "gasoline saving magnets", ie
these superthin meshes
that'll "protect your monitor from nsa spying"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: there's a minimal
thickness as a function of
the material involved
that can be used.
jurov: oooh
that, you want
to shield
these. oook.
mircea_popescu: anyways.
the original discussion was about how you can't make a mesh arbitrarily fine and expect it
to still shield anything.
jurov: you mentioned yest nuclear cross-sections,
they do apply
to EUV and x-rays
mircea_popescu: and you were going
to distinguish between far uv and close x-rays on some sort of a basis. other
than "cuz i say 3*10^16 and fu"
jurov: but we're going rather far.
the original discussion was about shielding microwaves from radio
transmission, cellphones etc.
mircea_popescu: as king arthur once said
to
trusty sir belvedere, "This new learning amazes me"
jurov: beause
the field isn't DC but AC
jurov: at
the same
time also radiates electromagnetic waves as photos
jurov: the field does. for example
the
tesla coil causes strong electromagnetic field, which causes surrounding matter
to ionise and get electrically charged
jurov: faraday case encloses you so wellthat it allows currents induced by external RF
to cancel it
jurov: but otherwise it does not allow radio frequencies in (when built
to spec)
mircea_popescu: what is
the difference between ungrounded faraday cage and dipole antenna ?
jurov: ungrounded faraday cage
tends
to get charged, which is not easily detectable from within, untill you open it, get out, and
touch
the ground
BingoBoingo: probably best
to ground anything
that isn't used for explicitly vexual purposes
though.
jurov: the EM field induces currents in
the conductors, which cancel it. no need
to drain
these anywhere
mircea_popescu: the problem of penetration isn't
the only consideration here. what you're saying is akin
to
the proposition
that a cpu is only hot on
the surface, so only a fool would connect it
to 5kg of copper.
jurov: hence, wowen
thin wires work,
too.
jurov: ofc, you're welcome
to shield your walls with 2mm solid metal.
the salesman prolly won't
tell you
that only first few micrometers count for
the nastiest stuff like GSM anyway
mircea_popescu: yes, but smaller holes and
thinner wires are unrelated items here.
jurov: but
to shield shorter wavelength, you need smaller holes in it
mircea_popescu: an arbitrarily
thin filament of an arbitrary length is NOT grounded merely on
the grounds
that you connected it
to a pipe somewhere.
jurov: and due
to skin effect if you use
thick but relatively poor conductor you'll get a surprises at > MHz stuff
mircea_popescu: jurov
that's just an engineering rule of
thumb, based on some assumptions.
BingoBoingo: As of
this week gotta be concerned about leaky emissions on
the million meter spectrum.
jurov: not if it's woven in
the grid, only
the holes count
to RF.
mircea_popescu: and "insulated" is a function of conductivity, which is a function of
thickness.
mircea_popescu: understand : a very
thin, insulated fillament is not a piece of shielding, but in
turn an antenna.
jurov: but
the shielding material necessary is markedly different
assbot: Logged on 13-02-2016 01:30:18; mircea_popescu: because of
the fucking impedance in
thin fillaments and other considerations, your shit will never work as a straight conductor.
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BingoBoingo: Likely, but I'm not risking shit
to see for sure because of
that possibility