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asciilifeform: ^ proggy that reads mask rom ~optically~
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://milandr.ru << can source any of this? or vapour, like elbrus ?
asciilifeform: the folks who burned all the jews they could long before germany so much as asked
asciilifeform: ahahaha the poles
ben_vulpes looking forward to new and exciting bouncer failure modes
BingoBoingo: hai thur
BingoBoingo: Hyacinths are more uncertain, but still lots of green. Tulip status unknown, likely many were consumed by squirrels.
BingoBoingo: Cool. My daffodils survived last week's snows with leaves intact. Mininal brown on the tips.
asciilifeform: really not so long for this world.
asciilifeform: one of the reasons i wrote 'g' (which remains unreleasable, ty mircea_popescu for the block cipher lulz, aha) is that the public node is not a sustainable thing.
asciilifeform: whereas today all vermin own teleporters and will appear directly at your front door, if you feed one.
BingoBoingo: Or the female to mayo transgenders
asciilifeform: as for travellers, when the known world was a cold and empty place, and wolves outnumbered wanderers 9000 to 1, etc. - it was a different thing.
mircea_popescu: i have no problem giving food and water to wandering females.
asciilifeform: whether in application to servers, or hordes of migrants, or wherever else.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: one way or another, folks will learn to respect the 'give nothing to stranger for showing up' theorem.
mircea_popescu: the caek produced the conclusion that there is nothing useful here - the heuristic value of a concept of "size" in evaluating the matter wholly comes from the evaluation that had been already pre-baked in the "size".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how was the caek ?
mircea_popescu: <phf> debord wrote this in 67 << aha.
mircea_popescu: bingoBoingo> "Re: recent node drop, someone is using up connection slots with fake SPV nodes; node count sites may be << o look at that, derpland discovers blackholing.
BingoBoingo: Oh, no this was tradition bitcoinj SPV turd https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/467oat/sudden_appearance_of_bitcoinj_nodes/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Since July "SPV" in power ranger and other usage has gone from describing a specific class of idiocy to describing a more general class of turds.
BingoBoingo: AWS banhammer is far more relevant in this case
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: In this case SPV is being used to describe garden variety pseudonode
asciilifeform: and the heathens who never heard of malleus can talk to them to their heart's delight.
asciilifeform: let ten thousand sybils bloom.
hanbot is off to read, apparently
phf: debord wrote this in 67, he then wrote an update in the 80s, "everything has gotten even worse then i expected", promptly shooting himself
phf: the commodity. Like the old religious fetishism, with its convulsionary raptures and miraculous cures, the fetishism of commodities generates its own moments of fervent arousal. All this is useful for only one purpose: producing habitual submission.
phf: The satisfaction that no longer comes from using the commodities produced in abundance is now sought through recognition of their value as commodities. Consumers are filled with religious fervor for the sovereign freedom of commodities whose use has become an end in itself. Waves of enthusiasm for particular products are propagated by all the communications media. [...] Reified people proudly display the proofs of their intimacy with
hanbot: i suspect the recognition that things can actually be useful rather than superficially ego-satisfying is a more and more rare occurrence. or by now, ability. which explains a lot of the stupidity, but doesn't excuse it.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: That's actually a serious problem. Being excited about things for their "product" -ness and not that part where they are useful as things.
hanbot: "review". aka "say anonderp, i'm having trouble fitting my pretensions and emotional minutiae in a finite space. would you ask me how i feel about shit and host the results?"
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asciilifeform: i'ma off to drink motor oil coffee, eat shit, and crank out useless crud for money
mircea_popescu: i shall be off to eat a lot of cake and meditate.
asciilifeform: hence why i always said to mircea_popescu, 'webdev is insignificant worm and webdevers are not programmers'
mircea_popescu: sorta like "size in the mind of the strategist". clean, elite units loom large. complex, large elucubrations are barely noted.
asciilifeform: (car occupies far more than the size of the parking spot)
asciilifeform: ^ the notion is well-known to city architects, as the concept of car space
mircea_popescu: so a small elite unit was capable of projecting a long shadow whereas a churned to death rifle unit from a siege emplacement was a mere dot.
mircea_popescu: something intuitively comprehensible as more akin the german-pioneered "tank shadow" item. whereby a unit was represented as a blob function of both its strength/battle readiness and it's mobility.
asciilifeform: this is a hilarious reversal of the old classic thread between asciilifeform and mircea_popescu re: 'programming == webdev'
asciilifeform: nor wants to.
asciilifeform: but yes, to perelman ~all of computing~ is 'tiny'
mircea_popescu: shall have to think on this.
mircea_popescu: much to my chagrin, neither do i. it is at best an experience-bound heuristic atm.
asciilifeform: i realized that i actually have nfi what mircea_popescu's size metric is here
mircea_popescu: note in any case that while the logic is correct, " on the expectation that size and competency correlate", it is NOT the case that what is meant by size is what'd intuitively appear.
asciilifeform had no idea engl. pediwik existed for this
assbot: Wide is My Motherland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1oJZpmU )
mircea_popescu: it's turworlds all the way down.
asciilifeform: (to them!)
asciilifeform: for the folks inside - it is very large indeed.
asciilifeform: in the same sense as north kr is small.
mircea_popescu: still.. a useful judgement of "size" in this particular sense is very hard to come by.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the one neutral construction here would be that the larger the item under discussion, the more likely you are to credit ability and the less likely to credit happenstance, on the expectation that size and competency correlate.
asciilifeform: now orc monkeys are not the sharpest tools in the shed, true - have you ~seen~ a trojan of recent vintage? 19/20 are in vb
asciilifeform: there is actual monetization there.
mircea_popescu: going into detail does not change the above.
asciilifeform: not precisely. re: qntra, i specifically think that the 'they don't exist, don't look there, nothing to see' field generator is operating so well, that they no longer see any need to draw attention with ddos.
mircea_popescu: it is a purely aesthetic choice. you realise this ?
mircea_popescu: you COULD, for the same money, put these in backwards.
mircea_popescu: when imperial instrument succeeded in keeping enemies at bay, you credited the exquisite intrinsic superiority of imperial instrument.
mircea_popescu: when republican instrument succeeded in keeping enemies at bay, you credited lack of interest on the part of the enemies.
mircea_popescu: no, this has absolutely nothing to do with any finding out. it is not a matter of fact.
asciilifeform: will have to find out, what. when i can be arsed.
mircea_popescu: could just as well be presented the other way around, you know ? if you're going to assign good/bad arbitrarily, might as well allign the needle backwards.
asciilifeform: i admit that my crappleology is a few yrs out of date.
mircea_popescu: why the specific choice ?
mircea_popescu: you DID say the exact this re qntra and ddos yest.
mircea_popescu: why don't you say "clearly nobody gives a shit about apple or its products - so few vulnerabilities they can almost chase them all down"
asciilifeform: and then any jailbreak aficionado who has the misfortune to powercycle his box, is fucked
asciilifeform: when they leak out, are typically patched in a few days
mircea_popescu: purely aesthetic choice, this.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yet you try and sit as if it had ?
asciilifeform: just that the 0days are few and carefully hoarded by aficionados.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the fact that jailbreaking is a thing reveals that apple has not 'done it'
asciilifeform: rather than any civilized concept of security
mircea_popescu: encapsulation is a dream. you know that. what exactly activates your memory hole to think that apple "done it" ? usg perfume ? what is it ?
asciilifeform: understand, this is largely a testament to the sheer nintendoism of the os
mircea_popescu: but not one that rowhammers the fuck out of it ?
asciilifeform: or shows a trojanatronic 'gmail' login screen and waits for idiot to enter pw. etc
asciilifeform: for instance, one can write a proggy that tracks your location and uploads.
mircea_popescu: must be because in spanish then.
asciilifeform: malicious app can only try to trick the user into revealing secret. it cannot, e.g., access the file system (you are not permitted fopen() ... )
asciilifeform: and yes, this is achieved at the cost of apps not having any access to the file system, etc.
mircea_popescu: i thought theres one a week.
asciilifeform: and believe or not, folks ~like~ the censorship. in the sense that there are no public infectors, in the usual sense, for crapple ipnohe.
mircea_popescu: have you EVEN SEEN the appstore ?
mircea_popescu: not the apple store ?!
asciilifeform: the market value, such as it is, is 100% from the software.
mircea_popescu: this does not bode well for apple's market value, if true.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my point was that if you wanted to make own touchatronic os, it would be considerably cheaper to use a handset from another vendor.
mircea_popescu: " lazy general usian population / anti-entrepreneurial spirited usian elite will concede the point ot them."
asciilifeform: much less touchatron.
asciilifeform: the 'open sores' world wasn't even able to cough up a mouse gui that didn't trigger anaphylactic shock in half the users
asciilifeform: on touch screen ? who wants to write the gui ? mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu understands that nobody buys the motherfucking phone for the hardware, right ?
mircea_popescu: well no, i'd expect you to run musl-os