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smickles: http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-2k.png << we're not seeing a drop yet tho
thestringpuller: yea but if you have a 1 hour block
smickles: if there are an average of 200 txns in a block, they't have to pay .125 btc to make up for the reward drop
thestringpuller: that would be grounds for miners to exclude a lot of transaction
thestringpuller: not on a large scale, this was a small sample set
smickles: oh, it means we have a rational market which already fully priced in the reward change @.@
smickles: so... we can at least saw it wasn't a suddent reaction to the reward drop
Diablo-D3: wanted to see if I could get a block in before the reward half
jcpham: bandz a' make her dance
jcpham: bandz a' make her dance
gribble: Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
smickles: oh, and interest is cfo on both sides, i think, because you didn't *raise* money by taking a loan
pigeons: just interesting. i want to start a risky biz, "totally anonymous" cards, i'm disabled and unemployed, can't get my paperwork to verify
thestringpuller: so you may see a spike in trade volume soon which I suppose would cause volatility
thestringpuller: i did a survey of a few miners
Chaang-Noi: pigeons are you interested in buying TRC, or did you just want a few coins for the novelty?
EskimoBob: that was just a joke
jurov: i'm in a different kind of "mining", tho.
EskimoBob: I bet, out there is a pervert or two who are going to whip themselves with LAN cables on that sad sad day
EskimoBob: because this is going to be a sad day for most of the miners, I recommend you to send me your first mined coin. Then at least someone is happy -> 15WLztstXkfybemi9Ecd9FQ4vt6wiJjN6b .. and you will feel better too ... LOL
Ukto: the one that will zoom and do a full per-trades, is nice, but doesnt load on mobile
Ukto: i found a nice one.. but its like a standard stock graph, uses a plot point per day
EskimoBob: I can only do about 355.0Mh/s and this is a joke :)
Chaang-Noi: i might, electric here is a bit high, and its hot
Chaang-Noi: was a responce to eskimobob
Chaang-Noi: i just got a brand new 5870 lol
dub: may as well not even have a search function
dub: fuck mediawiki is a joke
Namjies: Consider it as majorly a US hiring freelancing Indians, at least for the marketplace.
mircea_popescu: To make from Payperpost, you neeed to have a very good blog with big popularity and many readers, you must be a sort of influencer. Then, you propose your blog on Payperpost and if advertisers are interested to your blog, they will want to make a post in your blog.
mircea_popescu: it's like a reservation for the mentally retarded
mircea_popescu: reading a little in digitalpoint...
Namjies: Not like you don't have a MPEx domain...
mircea_popescu: if anyone has an acct drop a bump :)
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla "smpake.com looks like a great idea. I'll read up on it."
smickles: and that was b/f mircea knew SR was down for a long time
smickles: they hire the llc as a contractor,
smickles: if you form an llc, and get your employer to hire the llc instead of you, and your llc pays you a low salary, but high dividends, you'd be taxed at 15%
smickles: you are an employee of a company
mircea_popescu: and it will be a girl, and she'll be really hot, and he'll be really bothered.
copumpkin: but I will have a boss :P
smickles: like you have a boss,
smickles: I'm not positive on it, but ... you're a hireling, right?
mircea_popescu: maybe get a 2nd opinion from someone who knows shit.
mircea_popescu: Namjies i'm not an expert in design so i can't really cogently explain. it's a matter of style.
Namjies: Hmm... odd. I see many websites with a logo similarly placed. I always liked it like that.
Namjies: ... what do you want as a logo?
smickles: Namjies: once they process my llc paperwork, i'll need a good webpage where people can order my services, it looks like you might be one of the peeps i ask for a bid on that from
copumpkin: smickles: cool, seems like a good reason :)
smickles: 19:42 < copumpkin> smickles: what made you decide you wanted to go into accounting? <<< well, I actually like doing the work which is involved in most aspects of accounting. Also, once if figured out that it's actually a valuable service,... well, it seems like an honorable profession to me
mircea_popescu: he already had a hot gf
copumpkin: unfortunately, sending a bunch of money overseas to my parents will probably get me on a TSA watchlist for "funding terror" or something like that
copumpkin: and thus a loss?
jcpham: a good one.
smickles: I think you could also 'lend' a lot of money to your family, not charge interest, but be required to count a certain minimum amount of interest as income even tho you didn't charge it
copumpkin: I think my best bet is to set up some sort of S-corp or something and then do "consulting" on the side that lets me deduct a bunch of things
smickles: if we can find a cheap one
copumpkin: can I get a virtual kid, like a tamatochi?
smickles: adopt a kid, in a certain way, start an education fund for it, and hire a nanny, that's about 20000 of lowering
copumpkin: nah, I'm unmarried, don't own a house, don't have children
copumpkin: yeah, I'm doing a backdoor roth IRA
copumpkin: I have a pretty boring finanicial situation :)
copumpkin: smickles: it's sort of joking around though, because I doubt it's possible to lower much, since I don't work for myself or have a company and can't really deduct most of my expenses
copumpkin: I mean, I'll ask that in a bit
mircea_popescu: i only take 7% a week.
copumpkin: mircea_popescu: disregard that, I'll ask again in a bit
copumpkin: perhaps I should've waited a little longer
mircea_popescu: cost me a little more than 6 btc.
copumpkin: that's not a bad rate
smickles: and, iirc, the 'tax one' is not usually a report, it's the filed tax forms
mircea_popescu: you then proceed to sign a different one, someone shows they contradict themselves and whoopla, you've perjured yourself.
mircea_popescu: well... a representation is a representation smickles.
smickles: 18:29 < copumpkin> maybe smickles can provide a justification for the whole thing, but the best I can come up with is that a company's accounts serve a different purpose than its tax returns <<< this is true, taxes are not handled the same way as responsible accounting
mircea_popescu: takes people like buffett a month of combing to get a rough idea.
mircea_popescu: a well, then that's the issue.
copumpkin: maybe smickles can provide a justification for the whole thing, but the best I can come up with is that a company's accounts serve a different purpose than its tax returns
mircea_popescu: but as long as you do everything the tax way you don't have a problem.
copumpkin: so you file a deferred tax liability saying "um, the tax man thinks we lost way more money than we did this year and charged us less taxes, but we haven't lost it yet"
copumpkin: which means you paid less in taxes (Because they think you lost money to depreciation) today but your accounts don't show that depreciation because you used a different method on them
copumpkin: like if you have an asset, accounting standards have different ways you can depreciate it over time, but the taxes probably want a particular way called double-declining balance
jcpham: copumpkin we're having a;;halfreward party at cathy's house: http://youtu.be/NUnwFHplBg4
Diablo-D3: I have 24 hours to produce a block :<
gribble: Error: "half" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command.
copumpkin: it's just a huge pain in the ass to account for it
mircea_popescu: a ok then.
mircea_popescu: it's funny that not even a week ago inaba was intimating bfl is worth more than mpex
mircea_popescu: jcpham they had a backer.
mircea_popescu: jurov so 42 for a chance at 5 btc prize ?
jurov: still i don't get why freelancer.com is #1 . simple task like moving a deadline requires emailing to support both for employer and worker, wtf?
jurov: after... i already have a dispute with a scammer on that project, so i said, fuck that i dont need another one
mircea_popescu: looks like a hip.
smickles: "…as a point of fact if you couldn’t defend yourself in any criminal proceeding whatsoever right now, you’re already in prison." oooh, zing
mircea_popescu: there's a writing contest with something over 100btc in prize funds.
EskimoBob: what is that? "voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/#comment-90702 <<< extended by 2 weeks!"
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/#comment-90702 <<< extended by 2 weeks!
EskimoBob: nothing juicy at all "CME said that individuals holding MTB warrants, or certificates for a specific lot of metal stored in the depository, may receive gold delivered from Brinks Co. (BCO) in New York. MTB is responsible for any additional costs incurred by customers receiving metal from Brinks, CME said"
mircea_popescu: well it wasn't any big deal, just a write-up about some campaign trying to make animal fucking illegal again
gribble: Error: "half" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "btchalf" is not a valid command.