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BingoBoingo: Getting wasted away from home amplifies the excitement
danielpbarron: easy enough to get wasted at home
danielpbarron: bar isn't for getting plastered; it's for talking to people wtf
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Still, the first two reasons hold. One can have bipedal african rhinoceros in zoo, but that doesn't mean there is no reason to be interested in observing the creatures in the wild
asciilifeform: yeah but mircea_popescu is not 'anyone'. you would wonder, if you saw pablo escobar, who had his ~own~ rhinoceros, go to the zoo, no ?
fluffypony: asciilifeform: well he has to write the notes down somewhere
shinohai: A triptych of fine assets.
deedbot-: [Trilema] Letters from the stupid country - http://trilema.com/2016/letters-from-the-stupid-country/
mircea_popescu: and in the same old news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/8ff5174f151e82c23c291b50a30ae0b0/tumblr_n61msgwSfK1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
deedbot-: [Qntra] FBI iPhone Circle Jerk Theater - http://qntra.net/2016/02/fbi-iphone-circle-jerk-theater/
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: People with dust bet dust because it is what they have. The bet it because they want more dust. It's happening on this bet because it got attention.
asciilifeform: or is this ordinary ?
assbot: BitBet - AlphaGo will defeat Lee Sedol overall in March 2016 match :: 13.07 B (36%) on Yes, 23.58 B (64%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 4 days | weight: 70`710 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q5VsDd )
asciilifeform: sheer number of microscopic bets in https://bitbet.us/bet/1249/alphago-will-defeat-lee-sedol-overall-in-march is interesting to me
mircea_popescu: least for them.
asciilifeform: mr mold, even, wrote 'i wish only to live to see the 20th c. end' and he meant this specifically.
asciilifeform: in that sense yes.
mircea_popescu: to the degree the 1936 bs was novel, of course. from close enough and with enough myopia, it is "sop".
asciilifeform: this kind of thing is part of the daily rhythm around here and is unremarkable.
asciilifeform: i watched with my own eyes groups of 'national student leadership' whateverthefuck marching to audience with obama's reichsminister of whatever (or possibly the fuhrer himself)
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled, note, the bullshit:
mircea_popescu: should be interesting to see what the 2nd does.
mircea_popescu: in the FIRST soviet union.
asciilifeform: which was a very reasonable thing to do
asciilifeform: there ~was~ 'reddit' running around in 1918. people who ~actually~ thought that nobody needs engineers, any idiot can design a pile of bricks, nobody needs army officer, money, etc.
mircea_popescu: this kid is the aspirational "staff propagandist of the Manturovsk District of the Young Communist League in the Kursk Region"
mircea_popescu: this kid is not a peasant, anymore than a random engineer is redditard.
mircea_popescu: FIRST Zasemsky Village Soviet ? you know, two streets down from petersburg center ?
asciilifeform: the peasant bowed just as he bowed to the old lords.
asciilifeform: *all there
asciilifeform: my understanding is that 'this is allt here is, i am as human as every great man' thing was not yet developed.
mircea_popescu: fucking reddit through and through.
mircea_popescu: sitting around discussing issues of ideology for the very simple reason that the bigger boys in the village kicked the schmuck out of the trough ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these folks were not even a century out of chattel serfdom
asciilifeform: (lysenko's works, for instance, were never - afaik, to this day - translated)
mircea_popescu: aspires to be person with name, has name of "moo mooeski"
mircea_popescu: dude - kursk cattle doesn't even have a fucking name. ivan son of filip of the ivan's clan ? really ?
asciilifeform: the engl translation is new to me, i had nfi that anyone gave a shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the material is as plentiful as it is monotonous.
mircea_popescu: that thing is such a delight.
mircea_popescu: "I hope, Comrade Stalin, that you will grant my request and reply to the Manturovsk District, Kursk Region, First Zasemsky Village Soviet, Ivan Philipovich Ivanov."
asciilifeform: gonna be a contest where i'm the only runner ?!
mircea_popescu: birds sing, yes, but they are cicadas.
mircea_popescu: funny how little actually interests these people, they can so fluently become fascinated by random things.
asciilifeform: the more i look, the more clear to me that crypto is this radioactive wasteland where even birds no longer sing
mircea_popescu: idiot cloud moved on to whatever it is they do, probably something to do wit hgo now.
asciilifeform: speaking of, any more curios in the block cipher mail ?
asciilifeform: 'block cipher' was a pixie dust creation from day 1. relic from pre-scientific age of cryptoastrology. i think we had this thread..
mircea_popescu: they do not have the "rsa pill". the block ciphers however as currently implemented are next to useless.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is of course free do define my questions, such as 'do they have the rsa pill', as uninteresting. but i find this position too martian to fully grasp with my puny earthling brain.
mircea_popescu: very much besides the point.
mircea_popescu: this is a 3 yo thing.
mircea_popescu: he is wrong in that he, much like a child / animist, allocates his failure to outside intent.
asciilifeform: he isn't even wrong, the bacteria ~are~ helping to 'keep the secrets' by eating the meat
mircea_popescu: you're roughly in the position of an inept anatomist who, from his failure to obtain answers to the questions that interest him through dissection, decides the dead animal on the table is still alive,
asciilifeform: relates to the ~core~ vs ~crust~
mircea_popescu: how does this relate to the legal impotence of the usg henceforth is unclear, but w/e.
asciilifeform: or the magic codez for the intel amt thing (or what, you think the nsa core is decorative ?! buyan?!)
asciilifeform: another example: official 'tempest' test specs.
mircea_popescu: o when is that thing ?
asciilifeform: (go players don't panic, nothing to do with the game)
asciilifeform: note that i did not say 'the pill for rsa' but a specific archival document that is referred to in 10,001 places in the open usg literature
mircea_popescu: other things that haven't been found include the electronic raisin nuclear cheesecake, and generally speaking all manner and definitions of unknown things as defined by the people not knowing them. because FUCKING NECESSARILY!
asciilifeform tries, futilely, to extract firehose
mircea_popescu: the continued secrecy involving all this proves in order that asciilifeform has sons, that buyan is a place and that he used to take it in the ass with the firehose.
mircea_popescu: they're guarded by asciilifeform's unknown sons in a mausoleum on buyan, along with asciilifeform's own handmade copy of the dead sea manuscripts and still shots from his days as a fireman/pornstar.
asciilifeform: this is a quasi-mythical speech that was never made public.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not that one either.
asciilifeform: my point was that the available evidence (i can name 1,01+ tantalizing s33kr1ts That Make A Difference) that ~never~ have leaked and are guarded by - apparently - incorruptible aryan ss core.
assbot: On the Final Victory of Socialism in the U.S.S.R. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mMjAyW )
asciilifeform: nah not this
asciilifeform: recall how they in 1990 or so 'all sov archives now open!!11' 'fine, now gimme stalin's 1938 plenum speech'
mircea_popescu: what's next, "if you find me a princess to marry ima stop picking my nose and eating my boogers" ?
mircea_popescu: too bad it doesn't work like that.
asciilifeform: if you can find me how aes leaks key bits, or the spec document for 'Joseki' cipher, i'll wake up permanently.
mircea_popescu: thanks god it's that simple.
mircea_popescu: i put a filter in, brings you straight back to humanity.
mircea_popescu: sorry, what am i to do. you're a pretty reasonable chap with the nutty habit of spitting out 5/0=0!!1 5/0 = 0!!! at intervals.
mircea_popescu: i've not even read that last line, for the record.
asciilifeform: and that it only pertains to the crust of usg, not the molten iron core.
mircea_popescu: the concept of "old news" is not defined in this space.
asciilifeform: but pointing out that this kind of thing is old news.
mircea_popescu: why does it have to differ ?
mircea_popescu: that now the feds are somewhere between uganda and ethiopia as far as legal power is concerned.
asciilifeform: how does this differ from when 'scientology' infiltrated fbi and burned all files pertaining to itself (1980s) ?
mircea_popescu: that "careful about what they don't tell you when they give you those papers to sign" cuts both ways. what the calabrese didn't tell the feds when they gave the feds those papers to sign was
mircea_popescu: in this case, the usg took it in the ass. and the problem with whoredom is that oyu NEVER get to charge more than the least you ever charged.
asciilifeform: certainly no 'pencildick' academics there..
mircea_popescu: camps cheaper than asteroids.
asciilifeform: ~asteroid~ is the only hope for usa.
mircea_popescu: in further "concentration camps are the only hope for the us" news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/988d727f67722704787276edb499656e/tumblr_n64ncliQyN1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: i dunno, their retarded plum book index
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/02/ftc-settles-with-butterfly-labs-suspended-penalties-for-management/#comment-46670 << what do the numbers refer to ?
asciilifeform: (one falls, no prob, can connect to 17 others)
asciilifeform: the correct way to arrange this crippled gossipd affair is as an mpex-like network of proxies
asciilifeform: (as discussed in the 'g' thread. you ask for kakobrekla-style token, and decrypt a symmetric key)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, i have that in my mental list of "already folded parachutes"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you can pick a cipher or combo of ciphers you can temporarily stomach, we can have an irc box up with pgp auth.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> because the stench of the fungus is unmistakeable. << myeah.
asciilifeform: nanofilament thin.