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mircea_popescu: first rolls close in ~ a week
mircea_popescu: wouldn't she look great in a muzzle...
jcpham: i think she's abrasive too mircea, put a muzzel on her
smickles: Bugpowder: a former glbse asset
mircea_popescu: a well im giving it five.
mircea_popescu: rdponticelli gimme a quote ? it's possible girl might have missed it.
Ukto: I will prolly setup a btc auto-withdraw thing for both HP and weex at somepoint.
mircea_popescu: is this like a sort of pool hopping ?
jcpham: a few weeks back
Ukto: i turned my gpu off a few days ago
Ukto: now _everyone_ can take teh knifes off of everyones throats, and relax a bit
jcpham: sounds like a classic communication breakdown
Ukto: lets not start a new fued :P
mircea_popescu: i thought you'll go here is a final payment offer, lala.
Ukto: no, but sometimes a 3rd person helps alot
mircea_popescu: i thought the entire problem was you didn't have a way to identify owners that's reliable
mircea_popescu: alternatively, guy goes "here's a signed statement of no further claims, pay me X". if x is reasonable he'll also get it.
mircea_popescu: issues a 0.15 btc payment per share.
Ukto: then it is a stalemate.
mircea_popescu: well, not regardless. if the stuff giga does ends up having a value in fact
mircea_popescu: the problem with being friendly to small timers is that then you end up stuck with a horde of very silly people.
gigavps: maybe you could explain a bit further
mircea_popescu: <pigeons> yeah i figured originally i would have an easier time getting GIGA divdends from MP than from nefario if GLBSE went south << this would be true. however, glbse going south + giga going taxid/etc is a different story.
mircea_popescu: <Ukto> he bought shares of giga from giga direct? or on glbse << i bought bonds before the glbse ipo. they were transformed into glbse shares when giga decided later to put up with nefario's bs. i didn't want to, but i didn't make a huge point out of it either because at the time nefario hadn't yet quite shown himself for the huge cock he was/i didn't know better.
kakobrekla: well, if its a 'counter' than just ++
Ukto: think I will just put a microtime field on
Ukto: as a uniqe counter
Ukto: been going back and fourth on a final decision on microtime
PsychoticBoy: I am also going to rent a ¨WALL¨ around me :D hehe seems to work
pigeons: no i dont have a lot of thoughts right now
Ukto: I tried emailing him a few times, and no response et all :/
Ukto: regardless, just because he may not feel, because it is not written down, that he has an obligation to the shareholders to "try" to take care of them, does not mean that people do not have the right to issue a scammer tag, for not "Trying", since he did not explicitly write that he woudl NOT adminitrate the account beyhond divs. (unless he did?)
pigeons: about a month ago MP made it clear this is what would happen and so i sold the rest
Ukto: not that I would have a hard time spending a little effort to make shareholders "Customer" happy
Ukto: jsut because I dont want to end up in a similar situation
Ukto: yeah, he suggested I do a passthough of mpex on Bitfunder.. i think I will def. avoid it now
Ukto: without a written out obligation
jcpham: i don't like this idea of a passthrough
jcpham: i see everything you guys are saying but isn't it a huge pain in the ass for MP to operate his etf without any information
Ukto: so it oculd fall on the shareholders shoulders for not requiring a "detailed contract" from MP of responsibilities
EskimoBob: Ukto: she is a not as smatr as she thinks.
Ukto: B. Acting as a passthrough for shares to giga, means to buy/sell, and claim when need be.
Ukto: A. MP/OE states that stocks were delisted from glbse, and therefore worthless. Thats the real financial market. However, if NYSE shuts down, MSFT shares are not worthless.
EskimoBob: mpoe-pr is lunatic and a spammer
jcpham: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/381684_3379379022419_161806938_n.jpg
jcpham: i saw a triple rainbow
EskimoBob: you see, you do have a problem :)
Ukto: although, I was reading hte post guruvan vs mpoe-pr... reeses made a point that if a normal stock was delisted, its value is generally trashed for the reason it was delisted.. but in this case.. the stock/s were not "delisted" for reasons of financial stability.. thus, if a stock like AAPL (exmaple) were delistd due to the xchange shutting down, it still has value, right?
gigavps: it's a mix between angry and incoherent
jcpham: you can call me an asshat, but calling it a toy-court and implting that i'm not impartial is incorrect
gigavps: EskimoBob has a special language he uses when posting on the forums
EskimoBob: was'nt he establishing some type of a court or some other shit for justice?
EskimoBob: looks like mircea has pulled a "glbse" on his super duper exchange and fucked all the pt holders
jcpham: he's a cohort
gigavps: EskimoBob, for someone who is on the internet a lot, you sure have trouble finding information
jcpham: i need a refund
jcpham: gigavps these gpus I bought a year ago were not as described
PsychoticBoy: 2 are continuing on another exchange and 1 has a good buyback so....... this is not difficult to deal with
EskimoBob: I was reading this drama "F.GIGA.ETF to be delisted on December 1st, 2012". mircea_popescu, looks like you pulled a glbse trick on your clients.
Namjies: No idea but that seems like a bad move to me
Diablo-D3: I should write a perl script to process these
Namjies: Well damn. A good chunk done.
Namjies: Yes, failure of specific hardware. But the system as a whole keeps functioning and as such didn't fail.
Namjies: If the redundancy works, it's not a failure...
Namjies: You never know when the 1 every 10 year total failure in a Google service might occur.
Namjies: Too much work, I'd have to make a copy whenever I update the spreadsheets.
Ukto: just keep a copy iand you wont have to worry abou tit
Ukto: so if you buy someone out, you can just mark a claim as claimed and close it
Namjies: A bit too late for that.
Namjies: I use a spreadsheet to track claims against the list. Once people confirm, I consider shares claimed.
Ukto: thats why a claim system is nicer
Namjies: Got to send them a customized email stating from which address I sent it so they know it's from me and for what since GLBSE payout address is shared.
dub: yeah thats a funny inclusion
kakobrekla: so they sold a share to a janitor at google
dub: casascius is a moron apologist
jcpham: and is Dr. Evil a charter member?
jcpham: is Coin Publishing LLC a MNW umbrella organization?
kakobreklaaa: a.
jurov: i see it as a gamble, you either receive the interest, or lose exactly the same part as other players
kakobreklaaa: on a side note, i had a surge of new bitcoin forex accounts and 90% of the people never used bitcoin before
mircea_popescu: november was the first time in like half a year that the demand overstripped supply.\
mircea_popescu: my cock is exactly like a cunt minus the bleeding thing
mircea_popescu: "PSPs are allowed to hold fiat currency on behalf of third-parties and offer payment services, it's exactly what a bank does, minus the issuing of credit."
smickles: kakobreklaaa: cut a hole in the sleeve of your t-shirt
smickles: 17:31 < mircea_popescu> ;;later tell namjies ofcourse there's a bot putting in the 1ks. that's mpoe. <<< lolwut?
jcpham: yeah it was a forum thread
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell namjies ofcourse there's a bot putting in the 1ks. that's mpoe.
mircea_popescu: so i just received a pair of those bitcoin cufflinks
Namjies: mircea_popescu: is there a bot puting those 1000 ask/bids on options? Is that MPEx default price for options?
Namjies: It's not that big of a company either, focused on alternative investments and owns a large chunk of BTC-BOND in terms of the average holder but a bit of play money for anyone with larger capital.
Namjies: I would have liked a reply through email to verify that.
Namjies: From the founder of a SEC registered trading platform? Assuming the email is accurate.
mircea_popescu: http://vimeo.com/5236831 that's also me, talking to a moar urban crowd (party headquarters, timisoara)
dub: a bunch of asset lists get sent
Diablo-D3: I mean, Im not gay, and most of my investors arent gay, but theres nothing like a hatefuck.
Diablo-D3: ii libyaml-syck-perl 1.21-1 amd64 Perl module providing a fast, lightweight YAML loader and dumper
Ukto: wanna spend a few more to add some extra niftyness
Ukto: i spent a few hours on it
Ukto: Diablo-D3: yeah, i wrote a custom yaml importor
smickles: a couple, at least