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mircea_popescu: but it depends what you're improving.
mircea_popescu: there's nothing common or sensible about common sense
mircea_popescu: i kinda up new faces
mircea_popescu: :p
mircea_popescu: !up cgcardona_
mircea_popescu: imagine, something finding even better hiden queens ? it'll be centuries baby.
mircea_popescu: people arguing about how bitcoin will be obsoleted by "better tech", like that w3c muppet are mostly talking out of their ears.
mircea_popescu: well, at least some of them.
mircea_popescu: yup.
mircea_popescu: similarly, the fiat interdiction on theft, or the bizarre expectations of forumers (whoi mostly live in fiat, cause they're not smart enough for their culture to be programmable by themselves), indignant at hao dares bitbet not "refund"
mircea_popescu: in this sense, the fiat taboo on counterfitting is nonsensical, but we didn't notice this to be the case until bitcoin mapped better on the actual reality.
mircea_popescu: it's nonsense to see such a rule in poker, per se. but in the context, as they're trying to map shit to a deck of cards, it makes sense. the change is due to the flaw.
mircea_popescu: like, "but you only get 2/3 of the pot if you win it with a qh" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: so if they're playing poker with bad cards (say, easy to recognise the queen of hearts) they may cut the queen of hearts game utility.
mircea_popescu: they're obviously in no sense unfair, but they do break the mapping, which is undesirable.
mircea_popescu: much like kids playing insta-ban specific behaviours they perceive as "unfair"
mircea_popescu: but the theory predicts that specific changes will be observable to reduce or mitigate the damage due to the particular vulnerabilities.
mircea_popescu: and an important point is : practical implementations will be more or less neatly mapped on the theoretical requirements. they may still function
mircea_popescu: benkay just the moe in order to be a moe.
mircea_popescu: it's to be expected we'd live in a world of gashes and slashes for a while.
mircea_popescu: currently the entire thing is "hey guise, check out this shit i made. i call it... a box cutter. it cuts everything"
mircea_popescu: surely. it's a good thing.
mircea_popescu: "The Bureau of Prisons views any bartering among prisoners as fishy" << funny, seeing how they trade is mostly macks.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller sad fate eh.
mircea_popescu: even if you know... you need a blood for both.
mircea_popescu: they're separated in theory, like your pulse and blood pressure are separate
mircea_popescu: they don't have to be separate in practice
mircea_popescu: the moe is "sauce pls" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: for all we care 4chan or dtng were economies.
mircea_popescu: "forum is an economy" wut ?
mircea_popescu: takes 1 second.
mircea_popescu: as much as an irc chan for your wotcoin can suffice.
mircea_popescu: forums are very easy.
mircea_popescu: then you technically can argue this is a moe.
mircea_popescu: i guess if your wotcoin actually works so that every user gets 10 coins for every other user present
mircea_popescu: in a much softer sense than before, this'd be practical.
mircea_popescu: you got any idea what n! computes to ?
mircea_popescu: and each new user that joins creates n! coins ?
mircea_popescu: so you want 10 points for each user pair ?
mircea_popescu: when you unrate whoever
mircea_popescu: you can never kill one.
mircea_popescu: while you can take kids or give them away
mircea_popescu: the fact that the points do not conserve. think of a medium of exchange as a family.
mircea_popescu: kinda why doge is a dodgy scam : cause their coins don't conserve.
mircea_popescu: if they don't conserve, they're not a moe.
mircea_popescu: but your proposition was that the rating points are the moe.
mircea_popescu: it means it has no moe
mircea_popescu: nope.
mircea_popescu: this breaks conservation.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves well so where are they ?
mircea_popescu: "About 150 soldiers from the 173rd Infantry Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), based in Italy, are heading to each of four countries — Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia — in rotational deployments that the Pentagon says will be sustained until further notice." herp.
mircea_popescu: well, if i unrate you now, where do the points go ?
mircea_popescu: even if you expend it, it still goes somewhere.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the conservation of energy ?
mircea_popescu: outrageous. i hope the police catches up with them and gives them what for.
mircea_popescu: chetty daily mail raped babies ?
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves 3.it conserves over time.
mircea_popescu: benkay that's ocmplicated.
mircea_popescu: otherwise they form and dissolve naturally.
mircea_popescu: benkay no. they're only bad if they dominate
mircea_popescu: peaks at 10k comments/day
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/istoria-unui-proiect-online/ user activity.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2011/sa-desenam-cu-fain/ same thing, earlier
mircea_popescu: there.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/activitatea-utilizatorilor-pe-fain/
mircea_popescu: let me dig some pretty graphs.
mircea_popescu: benkay not effectually, no.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves but any ounce of gold stays an ounce of gold permanently. where do your rating points go when they go ?
mircea_popescu: not so hard to distinguish machines from humans if your machine has a stable with many humans
mircea_popescu: prop sauce, but basically it leveraged individual actions to evaluate everyone else's.
mircea_popescu: it drove most of .ro traffic at some point.
mircea_popescu: yes wai.
mircea_popescu: it had no moderators and no spam.
mircea_popescu: benkay for years before and some time during bitcoin i had a romanian language digg style thing.
mircea_popescu: so no, that's what it is : it isn't a wot because it can't be
mircea_popescu: and how constants don't work
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves this is what someone was proposing at conference, when i introduced fain
mircea_popescu: neither are fiat bills (not in the sense of the physical bill, but in the sense of it being authorised, it'll get reprinted, and trhe bill is that trademark that spawns the authirisation)
mircea_popescu: bitcoins, you will note, are never destroyed. neiuther is gold.
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves it has no medium of exchange it'd seem, because points are created and destroyed
mircea_popescu: <jurov> hmmm but it does not allow negative ratings << 0 to 20, -10 to 10, no diff.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> i have a feeling though, this theory will end up distilling into one that already exists << kinda cxurious about this myself.
mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> bitcoins being the medium, blockchain the gazette, mining the forum? << it's a very limited economy at that, but i guess so.
mircea_popescu: ;;rate Oleanie 1 liked my rose
mircea_popescu: o hey
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-99228 you gotta read this srsly i'm creaming my pants over here.
mircea_popescu: all famous btc people nobody's heard of.
mircea_popescu: people missed you in timisoara
mircea_popescu: chetty wb!
mircea_popescu: bounce lol. who the fuck is coinfloor again
mircea_popescu: dexX7 i think it'd look a lot more like bitcoin-assets.
mircea_popescu: because YES loltribunals do work, not just on league of legends, but here too.
mircea_popescu: fluffypony yeah, only one case. i suspect now i built it the wrong way,
mircea_popescu: fluffypony it's actually a measure of their thing failing. in the sense they can't pass off the scamcoin fast enough for their dump-and-dillute engine to actually extract enough value out of the environment to keep the ball rolling.
mircea_popescu: Naphex http://trilema.com/category/rota/
mircea_popescu: <only> ThickAsThieves: as long as the 3rd party can be anyone, isn't it enough? << definitely not.
mircea_popescu: Naphex> set up community tribunal << you know how well that worked, do you.
mircea_popescu: yeah what bounce said.
mircea_popescu: this is actually a pretty good q.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/#comment-99226