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FabianB: jurov: heh, maybe i should buy some S.DICE too to test divs again
mircea_popescu: OneEyed that's exactly what i mean
OneEyed: (a day later might be one second later if I were really an attacker)
OneEyed: You mean I can't sign a message containing "BUY|foobar|10|1", submit it, then submit it again a day later?
mircea_popescu: (tho i am considering allowing STATs be replayed)
OneEyed: (sorry if I look inquisitive, but your model is really interesting, I like this way of taking commands)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: as far as security is concerned, I haven't seen anything against replay attack. Maybe the attacker should have the possibility to add a "serial" or "uid" extra field, to ensure a signed message cannot be submitted again without being regenerated (it would require a new UID).
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: what I had in mind, was a "gpg --refresh-keys" on an internet-connected server, then send the updated keyring to the non-internet machine, and have gpg merge both keyrings (keys being in append-only mode, this cannot remove any information or inject any bogus unsigned information, especially if no new keys are imported during the merge)
mircea_popescu: no, i understand, i don't mind discussing it.
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: it gets fed the PGP signed orders in some way (serial link? private Ethernet connection? whatever), so the key updates could enter the same way. Anyway, I was just curious about it, I'm not requesting a change :)
Cylta: And what about glbse? They have about 1m btc too, I think
mircea_popescu: and yes, i am the most paranoic person you have ever seen.
Cylta: Oneeyed I did not tell it's bad :-)
Cylta: mircea_popescu: 1) you are the most paranoic person I ever seen 2) 20btc for registration?! Seriously?
Bugpowder: A low trade fee, high signup / monthly fee is better for liquidity (i.e. intrade's current model).
mircea_popescu: poor people bring drama not liquidity. i don't need drama.
mircea_popescu: yes. i am not trying to entertain the masses.
OneEyed: I'm still wondering why you don't want to gain more on fees and less and registration.
OneEyed: Yeah, I've read the FAQ, I was just wondering if there was going to be a promotion. Too bad then :)
mircea_popescu: this was planned for when volume crosses 100k per minth, but i held back because btcusd went from 5 to 12
mircea_popescu: in the future i intend to raise it to 50 btc
OneEyed: Yeah, I was talking about the future, not about the past :)
mircea_popescu: OneEyed i have, this was a couple months in spring.
Cylta: That is what I looked for
OneEyed: EskimoBob: and I think people managing FDBF do a wonderful reporting job compared to other assets (I once tried investing in YABIF, and quickly got out because of obscure management practices)
OneEyed: EskimoBob: I don't, I'm just a very satisfied investor, who is unwinding his position because I want out of GLBSE
OneEyed: EskimoBob: I wondered, because of Otto de Voogd and you met, but he travels a lot from what I can read
OneEyed: EskimoBob: I did :)
Chaang-Noi: hows the land of bitcoin assets today? fun as ever i assume?
OneEyed: Oh, I hadn't seen EskimoBob had a negative otc score
pigeons: hmm i was talking about obsi
Diablo-D3: usagi: I have 2.18 btc in my wallet.
OneEyed: If EskimoBob says he is not being paid by anyone to do that, well, I would have no reason not to believe him so far.
OneEyed: EskimoBob: I've seen that usagi accused you of being paid to spread FUD on him, but I've never seen anyone ask you if it was the case. So. Are you being paid by someone to damage usagi reputation in any way?
Diablo-D3: usagi: this is true, but thats not what I meant
OneEyed: I went to around 100 BTC worth of assets on GLBSE to 6 BTC in two weeks (with no loss, or even profit). I don't trust GLBSE with my coins anymore, since they may screw me if they don't like the issuer of the assets they let me invest in.
OneEyed: And as a (admittedly not very good) go player myself, I can't read what you're trying to do here since it doesn't correspond to what you write.
Diablo-D3: I wonder which admin thought this was a good idea
Diablo-D3: Jackmaninov: well, I cant ban people posting in it
Diablo-D3: I wonder if I can automate this with perl
OneEyed: But once again, you may not have planned to shut down CPA, but in this case, I don't understand why you decided for it.
OneEyed: usagi: from where I stand, it looks like you may have setup this contract for the sole purpose of transferring money from BMF to CPA through the premiums, since CPA won't go through the planned contract length that you agreed with yourself upon.
OneEyed: usagi: I'm trying to understand why insuring BMF with CPA was a good idea to start with, given that you might have known that you would shut CPA down before paying BMF anything. I'm not in your head, so I cannot make my mind about whether you knew that you would or would not shut down CPA.
Diablo-D3: OneEyed: I havent looked at it, but if it only covers up to what was paid in, then BMF has no recourse
OneEyed: usagi: I'm seeing this and try to understand. So far, I can't understand the CPA / BMF situation.
Diablo-D3: but I dont care either way
OneEyed: "Sorry guys, I've been screwed up by this usagi person - Yours, usagi"
OneEyed: Diablo-D3: that's where the fact that both are run by the same person give it a meaning again: usagi can't say "eh, usagi said it was out of business, so I usagi can do nothing"
Diablo-D3: s/I//
Diablo-D3: to default is if I a claim was made on the insurance and CPA paid out nothing
Diablo-D3: if I paid CPA x btc over several weeks, and they pay me back x btc to cancel the contract, they havent defaulted on the contract
OneEyed: Diablo-D3: I understand CPA is paying out its ongoing debt, that is contracts that have already defaulted, that's not the same thing
OneEyed: Diablo-D3: I know that. But how will the dispute about this contract be resolved? Who will win? CPA shareholders or BMF shareholders? Can't be both.
drekkAFK: Cylta, on the homepages of the exchanges, i guess?!
Cylta: Where I can find list of assets, that are not connected with mining?
OneEyed: asa1024: I withdrew some 3 or 4 hours ago (around 17 BTC)
asa1024: I guess I will email nefario and wait a few days to get an answer - if I get one @ all.
asa1024: anyone having problems withdrawing funds from GLBSE? I withdrew some funds last night/this morning and I still have yet to get them @ my online wallet.
kakobrekla: btw mircea_popescu, i havent forgot about mpex and smpake - i will be getting on it soonish nao ;>
kakobrekla: cause i got mtgox app runin already wo it
Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: yeah, I dont like where this is headed
kakobrekla: i think cydia is for jesusphone
kakobrekla: i hope it works on droid
mircea_popescu: i think cascacisiuciscacosciosmus
kakobrekla: well i need a qr code private key scanner & redeemer
kakobrekla: no i need this shit for something else
mircea_popescu: which i gather kakobrekla is trying to do
Diablo-D3: if Ive figured out the store's node network, I can spam the tx on the other side of the network
Diablo-D3: since I emitted the TX first, most likely mine wins the race
Diablo-D3: I just walked out of the store with the merchendise.
Diablo-D3: I think he might still be asleep
Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: yes, but what if I already did
kakobrekla: i need that
kakobrekla: i guess i need to switch to gigabit network as well
Diablo-D3: I wonder why they havent switched to arm
BTC-Mining: (I also love making spreadsheet tools)
mircea_popescu: (i kinda do this in my head, i'm guessing most options people do too)
mircea_popescu: well i cant edit any values ?
BTC-Mining: well changed settings I mean
BTC-Mining: Hmm, I've made a tool so you can check the current value of CALL/PUT contracts
rdponticelli: I could offer a mailbox
mircea_popescu: i got a bridge...
smickles: heh, I dunno, I don't even have a cell signal here!
smickles: pre-incorporation i am busy moving from NC to AZ
smickles: Obsi: Right now, it looks like the fee will be 5.6 an hour once I incorporate
smickles: Pretty much, I just won't be able to do audits, because I'm not a CPA (yet)
smickles: Obsi: If it falls in my sphere of knowledge, I certainly could
smickles: Smoovious: indeed, I've got a little redtape to deal with myself, so in a couple/few months, I should have a smoothe operation running :)
mircea_popescu: i fucked up, only paid part the first time. sorry!
jurov: i'm outta here.. goodnight
smickles: My plan is to provide good service to a few clients and expand with the funds I gain
jurov: i mean S.MPOE
smickles: Smoovious: I have a few clients lined up who are bitcoin related
smickles: Smoovious: I have family who are accountants, and I've been studying accounting for a while now
smickles: oh jeez, i can't read the last word of questions, it seems
Obsi: I bougth some today yes
smickles: i'm saving money to launch a biz
midnightmagic: hey Luke-Jr fix your flooding problem I have your nickname on highlight.
rg: i will show everyone that mpex is real
rg: i dont believe you