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mircea_popescu: i see
da2ce773: I have some dBTC
knotwork: I would never run financial server on third party hosting
mircea_popescu: knotwork i don't want to build the server tho, just a client
da2ce773: hmm... it isn't a just a clean 'deploy and everything will work forever stage'.. there will be bugs, and it will need maintance/FellowTraveler/I will have to develop patches for your issues.
mircea_popescu: knotwork how would i connect to the server ?
mircea_popescu: i was talking with da2ce773 a while bakc about getting a test server oince the thing is production ready
mircea_popescu: knotwork ya but i hate multi channing
knotwork: I hope
Bugpowder: that is the only reason I have assets there
Bugpowder: I don't think GLBSE is going to survive
mircea_popescu: dub i can't give you one, EskimoBob is already getting all of it.
dub: clearly I deserve some form of bounty
dub: pretty sure I was the first person to call usagi a scammer
mircea_popescu: i thought france was horrible
OneEyed: And when the DA will get back to me, I'll just drop the charges and won't confirm them since the issue is now moot
OneEyed: So I didn't pursue the charges
OneEyed: But, according to his PM (since he now answered my PM), I was next in line anyway
OneEyed: And puff, magic, I got reimbursed less than one hour after I told him so
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I pressed charges when he didn't answer by PM nor reimburse me (it's free to start criminal charges here, no need for a lawyer)
Bugpowder: I only played in one tourney. Won a 29 seater, made $1000 at Red Rocks. Quit while ahead
mircea_popescu: Cylta yea, i think you pretty much got it. bonds get x% first, then shareholders. if theres a loss bonds pay.
Cylta: Mircea I understand the reason, but I only mean that this explanation is shorter :-)
OneEyed: If I change my mind about GLBSE, I'll buy FDBF again, but probably for lower than I sold it :)
Bugpowder: I guess his IceHill investment is what did him in... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao892S4MOoDZdGZSbjJVd1ZTbFVLZE5aRE95bE91NVE&gid=1
Cylta: Mircea, I think you should make everything a bit simpler with your bonds and stocks...
PsychoticBoy: I paid 0.00155 a share
OneEyed: Bugpowder: not here - I sold 5 shares just before and 6 shared just after the dividend, same price
PsychoticBoy: I do think GLBSE will survive
OneEyed: 33 shares left, and I'm GLBSE free
OneEyed: I don't understand buyers sometimes, two hours before he/she would have got the dividends as well
mircea_popescu: i can kinda spot a clerk pretending he's a banker and an apprentice pretending he;s a mage.
mircea_popescu: dude, and i told him to get the fuck off his dragon
Bugpowder: I guess his grasp did not actually include his girlfriend's retirement account
Bugpowder: "If you are coming for a visit, I would like at least a voice message a day or two prior. Harm toward family's off-limits, and I would physically object to bodily harm which may result in my stay in a hospital, as that'd further impede repayment. I am armed, so please keep ideas of physical violence in check."
Bugpowder: I was just copying that to paste it here
Ignatius-otc: I'm sorry he is having troubles but that lady needs to leave.
mircea_popescu: I previously intended to empty my non-legal wife's (we personally consider ourselves married, but legally, we are individual and thus have rights we'd otherwise forfeit) 401(k). I obviously did not want to do this, but it became clear it was necessary as I was looking at $200-250/wk interest on this single debt while having been financially raped by loans to various members of the community
OneEyed: (even if I think he should better borrow to buy his own debt at a discount, since people will panic sell)
mircea_popescu: i never shorted that one :(
mircea_popescu: I am defaulting on my BDK.BND debt.
kakobrekla: no i think its not a month yet
kakobrekla: i need to add mpex and others
Ignatius-otc: ok well please link it here I get lost wading through btctalk drama
Bugpowder: no I think we have reached an inflection point
kakobrekla: no, i will open the page for public tomorrow but btctalk annoucment will wait a few more days
kakobrekla: I think its just a bubble.
mircea_popescu: OneEyed i was dead serious.
OneEyed: (I cannot tell if you are sarcastic or serious)
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: this is the first time I come to this channel, are you saying the volume of financial discussion went up recently?
mircea_popescu: (btw i am shocked, shocked i say at the unseemly volume of actual financial discussion taking place in thsi chan of late)
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-bot asset no. i just do it on my own account.
Bugpowder: I think any legit producer can get investment easily from non-bitcoin denominated things
Ignatius-otc: yes but if I go to get a loan I need to provide something showing why I need the amount I claim to need
mircea_popescu: Ignatius-bot still, if you started a largeish farm i could see 1mn sunk into it
mircea_popescu: dub i dunno.
Ignatius-otc: somebody will profit, i guess phillip morris?
Ignatius-otc: I recall seeing many of his posts throughout btctalk. Even still it doesn't come across to me as an honest business proposal. Large startup costs with little info. Of course, it's only a matter of time before growing and distribution are legalized
dub: Whether or not I ultimately develop a bitcoin bank-like marijuana commercial loan lending service
Ignatius-otc: well, interesting read. I won't be investing anytime soon with that individual.
mircea_popescu: well... i got some very nice garden mint.
PsychoticBoy: I dont rweally offer it, but since i live in the Netherlands all can buy from me if they wish
PsychoticBoy: not really I grow 5 plants in my garden legally but can buy great quality at the coffeshop
OneEyed: I don't know what the new law (I don't even know if it's a law in fact) covers
PsychoticBoy: I can sell to foreigners, just vacuum and post it
kakobrekla: i dont care if its winter or summer
PsychoticBoy: ok then i am able to take that trip in my subaru
kakobrekla: i done that road couple of times
kakobrekla: i guess NL is far, not slovenia.
mircea_popescu: i can't travel on a week's notice ffs
OneEyed: I spent two weeks in Amsterdam this summer, that was nice
mircea_popescu: i know, i visit holland ocasionally.
PsychoticBoy: I can buy legally here in a coffeeshop
mircea_popescu: i don't even smoke
PsychoticBoy: wow I will set up a growing plan for my weed stock, I ll grow and sell and give shareholders a piece of the profit
mircea_popescu: i like this mindset :D
mircea_popescu: "Have you considered using GLBSE for this fundraising operation? I would be hesitant to just send you some bitcoins, but if you were verified on GLBSE and offered an IPO I would definitely invest."
PsychoticBoy: I live in the Netherlands so I could make a pot company ( LEGALLY)
pigeons: i just had to counter Bugpowder's opinion on that "good luck" cause i disagree
Bugpowder: I sold 875,000 shares
mircea_popescu: dude i thought i was supposed to be trading with myself, stop coming forward and claiming trades
pigeons: well i don't have any, i bought some a few days ago for the dividends but had to sell them because they are going for twice what i paid for them
OneEyed: mircea_popescu: yeah, but some of them had a chance to make a profit before. I think vescudero was just entering the btc game, so no profit to reinvest there.
PsychoticBoy: I had some btc with vescudero but withdrawed a few months ago
OneEyed: I wonder how much vescudero payed out of his own pocket to be able to pay all his investors back, and right in time. This was a tremendous service, but I bet this has been an awful loss for him.
PsychoticBoy: verification on GLBSE means nothing these days, I can only get verified on 2 of 6
PsychoticBoy: no rastapool i think
PsychoticBoy: ok I will get into that mircea
mircea_popescu: OneEyed he'd have to buy a mpex acct if he got 10k btc i guess.
OneEyed: I'm not sure they is much potential for growth though. Liquidity on GLBSE is so low, that you wouldn't know what to do with 10,000 BTC if you could sell all the shares
OneEyed: Oh yeah, I forgot you were in the same time zone as me
PsychoticBoy: I am paying div in a couple a minutes, spreadsheet will be adapted first thing in the morning
OneEyed: PsychoticBoy: I happened to have it open in my browser
mircea_popescu: can i see your portofolio somewhere ?
OneEyed: (he thought I was one of the owners, because I praised it)
OneEyed: PsychoticBoy: I don't know if you've seen it, but EskimoBob was enquiring about any software used to manage FDBF
mircea_popescu: jurov i knew a guy named Sockpill
jurov: i'll list the positions as Chief Sockpuppet
jurov: should i ever have a company profile with photos,
mircea_popescu: well i must confess this trolling was very unsatisfactory.