OneEyed: I don't gamble :)

OneEyed: That would be 0.0105*100, or 1.05 BTC if I'm not mistaken

OneEyed: GamblingMan: if you send me what is needed to play 100 transactions, I'll do it (one line script) and you'll be able to observe the results

OneEyed: Smoovious: you wrote "get my best". So I guess you never stay late with friends either, because you could be tired.

OneEyed: Smoovious: of course, if it endangers yourself or other people, I can get that!

OneEyed: (does drinking two glasses of wine make you intoxicated and unable to teach? - depend on the person I guess)

OneEyed: By "drunk" I mean "intoxicated", not "so drunk that they vomit all over the place"

OneEyed: Smoovious: I've seen drunk people be very good teachers, at least in conferences :)

OneEyed: I'm not saying that's a reasonable plan, 5 strikes also seem a lot to me. But you should try to put yourself into other people shoes before judging. Do you really think the teacher unions would battle to obtain such a text just for free, out of the blue, without any discussion, just because union teachers get drunk all the time maybe?

OneEyed: Smoovious: this acknowledges it as a disease, that can be cured, but is not easy to. I guess if the impregnated person was at risk of harming students in any way, then other texts and sanctions would apply.

OneEyed: (I'm trying to get thr gith link)

OneEyed: midnightmagic: you could find it on the forum, I'm not sure I would be able to find it in a reasonable time, but you should look for yourself, try "Trendon Shavers" "DBA" "English" if the forum software lets you do that

OneEyed: Smoovious: sure, as I don't expect water to turn into wine on my table, if it does, well, so much the better

OneEyed: midnightmagic: what I'm saying is that in the absence of proof that it is a scam and in the absence of proof that it isn't, given the current situation, it is most likely a scam

OneEyed: I don't know, but he would probably know people trusting him to get a healthy asset and that he trusts to hand it over

OneEyed: One thing I don't understand about usagi desire to close CPA: why doesn't he hand it over to someone else if he doesnt' want to manage it anymore?

OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I hadn't read the whole thread, I just read your new local rules indeed :)

OneEyed: Btw, I see in Usagi thread (NYAN.B closing) that the girl and others were "locally banned". Is that enforced by the moderators, or do you control yourself?

OneEyed: I've read about Jesus bugs today

OneEyed: Where does the contract I've read from then?

OneEyed: mircea_popescu: if you refer to claims made outside of the contract, I have to agree with you, however, if you stick to the contract, I don't see he defrauded people.

OneEyed: mircea_popescu: I would use the same terms as Goat contract, but replace PPS 1MH/s by "average air temperature at 6:00 minus 20 degrees"

OneEyed: mircea_popescu: if I sell you a "temperature bond" whose dividends are indexed on what the average temperature is at 6:00 in Paris every day, would it be a fraud not to invest into hot air?

OneEyed: I really hope the coinbr/MPEX deal will make a better exchange system.

OneEyed: mircea_popescu: yes, I understand. But even knowing he doesn't own some, as long as the investors get exactly what they paid for, i.e. coupons indexed on PPS 1MH/s, I don't see as a violation of the contract itself. But I won't redo the discussion here :)

OneEyed: The only difference I see is that in the real world, the company itself has the needed information to invite shareholders to general assemblies and such

OneEyed: (I haven't seen the message on the forum)

OneEyed: I don't have any share managed by Goat (nor any share at all at this time), so I can't see the message

OneEyed: Smoovious: I used bitcoins before I joined bitcointalk or the bitcoin channels on IRC. I could have used GLBSE without joining them too (this is not the case as I happened to discover about GLBSE on the forum)

OneEyed: Smoovious: let's agree to disagree here, I just read the contract, I don't see a fraud, but that is my interpretation. People should learn to read contracts too before investing.

OneEyed: Smoovious: I fault him for the way he handled it as well.

OneEyed: So unless he intends to run, I see that more as a guarantee. I would prefer to invest into a guaranteed 1MH/s equivalent rather than some hardware whose returns would be distributed to me capped at 1MH/s equivalent.

OneEyed: Smoovious: did he not pay and say "sorry guys, I'm broke and I didn't invest your money"? *That* would be a scam, and I would be 100% on your side. But here, now that people know that he doesn't have mining hardware, he cannot even say "My hardware broke, sorry, no returns until I get a replacement"

OneEyed: Smoovious: sure, I don't know anything about their dispute. Except that I've seen that Nefario did not explain why he did this, and I lost the trust I had in GLBSE at this time, since I don't know if the same kind of dispute could happen with other asset owners or not.

OneEyed: That was my only point. If he had invested into a mining operation, then the investors would not have lost or gained one satoshi. So I don't see why investors are complaining.

OneEyed: (when I say "work", I mean "work for him", because perpetual also means that he has to pay forever if he doesn't buyback)

OneEyed: Was it supposed to be a pass-through or a hardware owner? I still can't understand what investors expected. One or the other or any of them or both.

OneEyed: Seriously, I think that investors are to blame here. Especially considering this is Goat, whose morality doesn't appear to be that high :)

OneEyed: PsychoticBoy: doesn't he? I thought he told he was the majority investor or owner of a massive mining operation?

OneEyed: (I should read the thread, that may be in it already)

OneEyed: "If implemented, I would not allow investors to cherry-pick assets from the fund but would instead send them a fair mix of around 5 assets, fairly weighted considering the NAV of NYAN.B and the valuation of the securities which the investors have chosen in motion 155."

OneEyed: Fuck me, I hadn't seen NYAN.B closing announce. I've missed yesterday's movie of the day