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mircea_popescu: it's one of those "you think you're buying a fine piece of american engineering, but otherwise it's made in china" things.
thestringpuller: or just the mining cabal silently forked the network...
thestringpuller: the node cabal forked from the mining cabal?
mircea_popescu: there's actual science work to be done, for they able and willing.
mircea_popescu: this is fine, but also rather irrelevant. migth as well tell darwin he's just being anticlerical.
PeterL: I think you are just being paranoid
mircea_popescu: what is this!
PeterL: okay, so getting into a block right after your other txn is a bit of a coincidence, but not inconceivable
mircea_popescu: and it's very scientific : same exact tx!
mircea_popescu: yes we have! it takes it over a week to NOT get into a block :)
PeterL: have you timed how long it normally takes a 0 fee txn of that size to get into a block?
mircea_popescu: that's how the pros do it, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: you're a college man, right ? tokenize the events, assets probabilities per token, calculate the overal chance of this happening.
PeterL: to me, it seems like it was just a miner holding onto a zero fee txn, and it happened to move to the top of the 0 fee txn pile right after you resent the txn
mircea_popescu: haha. what is this, fiat ?
PeterL: Or are you expecting everybody to nicely send back the mistaken funds?
PeterL: mircea_popescu: so the Jeb Bush bet winners were sent their winnings twice? Does that 16 btc go as a loss on the bitbet books?
mircea_popescu: lol go kanye, stickin' it to da man.
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jurov: fghj: mod6: also, do you have any hints as what leaves to press and add into lxr?
jurov: ;;later tell ben_vulpes till the cache hasn't cleared, use http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=0.5.3.1 instead
jurov: huh wtf happened to lxr
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mircea_popescu: "yeah, except they'll try it a little sooner or later, and then a little more. and the public is mostly made up of the same public that thought Britney Spears is a singer."
mircea_popescu: "the network will be safe because the miners won't shit in the soup because they'll be too afraid of the public reaction"
mircea_popescu: and the most ... snore, i suppose, aspect of this is that other than the few dedicated philiphinos caught without talking points, the general redditard population is amply incapable of even understanding what was said. at all.
BingoBoingo: That's what, cockpuppet 691 or 692 she called out. Someone needs some Thorazine
mircea_popescu: somehow this "majority miner changes everything" thing is very hard to see.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes> BingoBoingo: what does all of this mean << replace byt fee, sorta a poor man's version of your original "run a pool!"
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ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: what does all of this mean
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ben_vulpes: bit twiddling for motherfucking arithmetic?
assbot: Bit Twiddling Hacks ... ( http://bit.ly/1TPRYqN )
mircea_popescu: it's not the c way
ben_vulpes: were simple sensible human mathematics too dirty for satoshi and company?
hanbot: hey mircea_popescu, is it okay if i defer this month's pc4 report and combine in april? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: right because '>>' can be overridden at the...object(?) level in c++
ben_vulpes: i have had two beers and a glass of wine since 5pm and none of that has made me nearly as ill as this line of cpp
mircea_popescu: it's either "shift bits by this many", "output to this entity" or else "pleasure my wife"
mircea_popescu: doesn't it mean "shift bits by this many" ?
ben_vulpes hums 'throw the jew down the well'
ben_vulpes: double right angles means 'put this value over here', right? but how does it make sense to put nBits into...24?
asciilifeform: 'in my country there is problem...' (tm) (r) ('borat')
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so is teh buttcoin crowd all giddy with excited shock ?
mircea_popescu: a problem which to my eye looms a lot larger than whatever, "the last time english speaker wrote usable code was before they had electric typewriters"
ben_vulpes: no less than usual
ben_vulpes experimenting with two-line popescu/datstoievsky fusions
ben_vulpes: as reported in the grey whore!
mircea_popescu: fabulously, utterly, completely, 18 months they're wiped.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes aha. the americans did what they do best - lost.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the only way to handle centralization in mining as it is designed is through periodically picking up the fattest pig and throwing it through a glass pane.
ben_vulpes: the fiat competition was supposed to solve this, but unfortunately the trumpenreich is just TOO GODDAMN INCOMPETENT TO EVEN COMPETE WITH THE CHICOMS
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes understand, this isn't a field that takes well to distribution.
ben_vulpes: are there no hashrentiers in the wot?
mircea_popescu: samsung ? the fabled garage miner that hasn't existed since 2013 ?
ben_vulpes: this was a thread?!
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 03:27:37; asciilifeform: and maybe time for high-S miner?!
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2016#1419855 << you know, if the cost of running a pool is only 1% over subsidy + fees... ☝︎
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: plz to replace 'o' with '0' in my comment if possible
mircea_popescu: ftr ben_vulpes the c spelling is antiquated but english!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: why would the cartel have picked up the original 0 fee transaction instead of the feeful later?
mod6: ah, ok. will have to check it out.
ben_vulpes: mod6: phf dumped a patch in the logs for compiling under gcc
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 03:20:58; mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2016#1418803 << i usually just modify the rotor script so that it just builds bitcoind with all of the necessary environment vars set, but comment out the building of BDB/SSL/Boost. The re-compile usually takes a few minutes. Not more than say 15.
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2016#1419829 << with phf's patch (are you going to post that to the ML or shall i?), my post-clean compile takes 1m 16s << im not aware of phf's patch. i did recompile with shiva when it was first introduced, didn't add or subtract any compile time as far as I could tell. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: astonishing, how the same old crud comes back again, again.
ben_vulpes: i have no idea if this is fast or slow
ben_vulpes: 5s after adding a printf to shiva.cpp
asciilifeform: it is all for one thing.
asciilifeform: and in general all variations on the 'locked coins' crapola
ben_vulpes: i have no idea if this is an abnormally long or short time
asciilifeform: punkman: the timelock thing
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 03:20:58; mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2016#1418803 << i usually just modify the rotor script so that it just builds bitcoind with all of the necessary environment vars set, but comment out the building of BDB/SSL/Boost. The re-compile usually takes a few minutes. Not more than say 15.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-03-2016#1419829 << with phf's patch (are you going to post that to the ML or shall i?), my post-clean compile takes 1m 16s ☝︎
ben_vulpes: mod6: this is 'rotor_bitcoin_only.sh' in the rotor tarball
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 19:06:33; asciilifeform: bip64, aside from complicating the protocol and giving relevance to the gavin shitgang, is also a jam-tomorrow chumpatronic engineering structural element
BingoBoingo: Perhaps there is a new idiocy inhereted though the "Core" client fork https://archive.is/cIZOG
mod6: oh there's even a qntra post.
mod6: im gonna re-read that whole thread
mod6: weird, i thought that was in '12
gribble: They really are Buttcoins nao on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao>; February 2013 on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/2013/02>; Bitcoin on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu.: <http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/>
_FeltPen: where the sword wont?
asciilifeform: and maybe time for high-S miner?! ☟︎
mod6: yeah, this stuff has gone too far.
mircea_popescu: (rub miner's nose in their doo-doo)
mircea_popescu: it's certainly a step in the right direction
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 00:11:53; kakobrekla: i guess its time to add 'raw hex tx' data for re-broadcasting to bitbet resolved bets
mod6: ah. ok, just looking for more time or for someone to pick up where you left off?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty, fxd
mod6: ah cool - yeah maybe post in here at some point. builders may fnd it helpful if they haven't made their own already.
punkman: mircea_popescu: were the disappeared transactions low-s btw?
mod6: or the rotor script?
mod6: the 99997 one were were talkin about yesterday asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you have two uls in there in succession, wipe one
asciilifeform: mod6: i have exactly that script.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's how the html you submitted parses. Looks legible even if some line spacing is weird. I just assumed you did that for emphasis.
mod6: mircea_popescu: interesting day re-betbet txn & miner witholding.