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jurov: i don't remember, it was months ago... but as you see, at least on decryption you don't have any parameter there
jurov: i needed the second key to be used in chroot anyway so i did not hax around it
mircea_popescu: i hax!
mircea_popescu: i'd much prefer something a page or two long but it doesn't seem possible
sgornick: mircea_popescu: If I used for trading on MPEx my main GPG key that I use for WoT (and has my e-mail address), can someone figure out what assets I own?
FabianB_: mircea_popescu: yeah, that's cutting the bank fees, but introduces the risk of volatility, if i don't use option insurance
jurov: someday i ought to do myself few cups of extra strong coffee and do the maths...
FabianB_: thinking about if btc would be worth if i'm a producer of some goods e.g. in china, for shippment to eur/us, e.g. payment in btc now, shippment in europe arives 40 days later, btc price in that time probably moved a lot
FabianB_: but maybe i'll get back to that jurov if i really need it
jurov: i'm in a bit of a risky mood and don't think price will be back at 12 in 4 days, would create approriate options for you as a proper broker would... but my head is spinning already
mircea_popescu: this has happened like i dunno, a dozen time in btc this year
FabianB_: so i guess on traditional forex options have smaller price differences, coz e.g. usd<->eur price changes are smaller
jurov: fabian, i'd rephrase it so that nobody dares to offer them at better price
mircea_popescu: sgornick i guess you have a point. i recently switched my blog from romanian to english, so i kinda intend to make it the source for results. but i guess a link can't hurt anything.
jurov: FabianB_, i guess none of currently offered mpoe calls will be profitable at 12
FabianB_: so if usd price is at 12 in 4 days i could calculate what kind of long call i should buy to insure that
mircea_popescu: jurov bah i fucked up.
FabianB_: if i have 100 btc now, spend 10 btc now and coz current price is 10 usd i send 100 usd to mtgox which will arive in a few days
FabianB_: price falling would be nice for me anyway, rising price would get me less btc if i don't hv options
FabianB_: but since fiat -> mtgox takes a while, i don't know how much fiat i have to send to mtgox
FabianB_: hmm.. what if i dont care which way prices go, i just want to have same amount of btc in the end
FabianB_: trying to figure out if it makes sense to buy options if i buy something with btc today (at a usd price), but in the end don't want to have less btc in my wallet, so buyin new btc few days later
FabianB_: but i guess that's way off
mircea_popescu: i find it incredible the guy finds the time.
mircea_popescu: "I also just got off the phone with Philip Moustakis. Nice guy. We chatted for about an hour."
smickles: how do i get at it?
smickles: i might make this bot then
smickles: mircea_popescu: so i could parse the stat easily?
smickles: what's this statjson i heard mentioned?
smickles: well, i suppose i do already have half of the code for just such a bot already written
mircea_popescu: i mean, if you believe this you can go put your own CALL offers in there, neh ?
mircea_popescu: and i also don't know which half i don't trust.
mircea_popescu: what you're saying does make sense, in general. just, btc is yet too low volume and i don't trust half the quant analysis results
mircea_popescu: then i'd prolly prefer adding more capital than following the mkt
mircea_popescu: atm i have the capital to anchor. if it becomes a problem and the bot is too often sold out
mircea_popescu: i don't want to introduce feedback.
mircea_popescu: now i can be worried sick for the next five weeks ;/
mircea_popescu: i guess someone figures the btc goes up.
smickles: mircea_popescu: you know, i've been wondering, if someone setup a short straddle at the money with something like 20000 contracts on each leg, do you think it would stabilize the exchange rate for a while?
sgornick: ok, I'll look at statjson.
sgornick: heh, ya, that's what I mean.
sgornick: Can I right now view all of my October transactions?
mircea_popescu: yea, i think they may be up already
EskimoBob: bitinstant? in google search I can see "BitInstant.com is currently down due to site revisions. All orders placed up to this point will process as normal. If you have any questions or issues feel free to ..." but when I go to the site, it looks OK
thestringpuller: either way i made cash
jurov: so i guess you need to submit order/cancel/exercise, right?
thestringpuller: cool, I won't flood it, i just want bot access because I can't be awake 24/7
jurov: OK, exporting json interface should not be a problem. i planned to do one anyway for mod6's adroid app
thestringpuller: Ideally I would like to make trades without a website in honesty
thestringpuller: cause I can make bots easily
thestringpuller: I really want the access to the api
jurov: thestringpuller, yes i can
jurov: you'll be my special customer. I'm going to cater to your whims (no phonesex, tho)
thestringpuller: if i were to do this longterm what would your reccomendation be?
mircea_popescu: then i guess you'll have to weigh them
thestringpuller: if I were to generate a high enough volume could I get margin to cover "quick deposits"?
thestringpuller: i'm seeing if I want to go direct to mpex
jurov: i do such "quick deposits" already for those 1btc users but i guess you want more
jurov: thestringpuller, only possible way i know is to have some reserve (or margin) on MPEx that can be used immediately
mircea_popescu: but i think a honest rundown of the thing is prolly the best policy. "here is what i can do, here is what i can't do. if you actually handle enough cash that you need what i can't do, talk to mpex directly and problem solved"
smickles: thestringpuller: should i use that same address, or do you want me to keep it on account for you?
jurov: it's either snake oil or expense i can't afford (buying yubikeys or sending sms)
mircea_popescu: jurov it's a dilemma you find yourself in there i guess
jurov: mircea yes i saw that. now am trying to explain how i feel about multifactor auth
mircea_popescu: why ty. i am of the same persuasion.
thestringpuller: I do feel like a won a bet though
smickles: mircea_popescu: i gave thestringpuller a mini-margin thingy
mircea_popescu: haha i got bondholders
mircea_popescu: i take a number of measures to prevent as much as possible a crack
jurov: i hope you don't compress the backup prior to export.. heard about CRIME attack
mircea_popescu: but seriously jurov i think it adds a significant level of security.
jurov: i should preemptively accuse you on btctalk : "MPEx scandal: relies on its users to do backups"
mircea_popescu: i think you kinda need my private key.
dub: no, i just want my bfl asic delivered :)
mircea_popescu: then again, i thought the number im quoting is 24h
mircea_popescu: maybe i haven't been paying enough attention
BTC-Mining: eh, about ASICMINER, I hope GLBSE release the information and they start trading again.
thestringpuller: i want an mpex account we'll talk soon
mircea_popescu: i doubt nefario drama has much impact
jurov: hehe.. like i dreaded how would i accurately distribute interest to users
mod6: this speeds that whole thing way up. i have a bunch of reuseable code from the other JSON parsing stuff it does.
mod6: Well, the JSONSTAT i'll grab once that's done and i'll be able to use that. the STAT screen is one remaining that I haven't designed yet just because I knew i'd have to just do it line at a time parsing or what not
mod6: I've been swammped this last 2.5 weeks... I've still done a bunch of work on bitotter's encryption parts. Got a bit more to do there and then thats nearly it.
PsychoticBoy: Sry mircea, I currently have ~120Gh/s, still less than giga iirc
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 16 hours, 29 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <smickles> or what's the benefit otherwise, i don't see much to gain in it
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 15 hours, 39 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <smickles> or what's the benefit otherwise, i don't see much to gain in it
thestringpuller: i need to speak with senor smickles
Chaang-Noi: i wonder if someone is just messing with the price to have options hit
jurov: i see only \n after "Price":"21000"}},
jurov: i guessed as much.. but can't find out how to compute the checksum
mircea_popescu: i wonder wtf did it.
EskimoBob: I am looking at this one http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxEUR.html
mircea_popescu: prolly should ping smickles about this too. who else... brendio's not on i see
jurov: haha thestringpuller...you already know my hourly rate for development... multiply it by any odd prime and i'll do some phonesex..er.. brokerage
mircea_popescu: one point : the format for stat might change in the future, but not too soon. i expect everyone who uses stats programatically to move to statjson in the coming months.
jurov: oh my engrish... i got cold yesterday and went to bed soon
jurov: heh, apparently i have to lay down with cold to start things moving
thestringpuller: maybe one day when im golfing i can call jurov and be all "sell sell sell sell"
thestringpuller: and i sent him coins
thestringpuller: i would need jurov to expedite deposits