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mircea_popescu: <davout> i *never* heard about such a thing << what's that then ?
mircea_popescu: your objection that it doesn't fit with your experience, unsound as it may be in theory, is also easily dispatched in practice.
mircea_popescu: i just explained it to you for free, after all.
mircea_popescu: davout the implication is that particular malfunctions of a broken system are only visible at a certain height, nothing else
mircea_popescu: principle of magical economy : only use the really powerful delusionist spells when really needed.
mircea_popescu: i don't have to get skinnkavaj to ask his magical "i can't see why not" device to bed those
mircea_popescu: pankkake: I'd rather fuck the Bush daughters << but those were sluts
mircea_popescu: yes, actually.
mircea_popescu: yes, but you never spent a million on consel in any fiscal year either.
mircea_popescu: no, you pay them what they ask you. then they make the paperwork read that's what you were supposed to pay.
mircea_popescu: this is a game-theoretic asset : they won't say. maybe they are. maybe they aren't. what do you want ?
mircea_popescu: davout it's simpler than that : they don't have to be specific before they finish the investigation
mircea_popescu: you are starting to understand bureaucracy, the legal system and how states work.
mircea_popescu: davout right.
mircea_popescu: pankkake: "Chinese-American, he was born in Africa; his entrepreneurial parents ran a flip-flop factory in the Ivory Coast" << for some reason that immediately sent me to http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/nigerian-scammers.jpg
mircea_popescu: davout because if w/e they calculated is owed is paid, then they have no further grounds to investigate.
mircea_popescu: once that sort of shit starts, you start publishing the lolz.
mircea_popescu: one of the many many COUNTLESS reasons a businessman absolutely must have a well read blog at his disposal.
mircea_popescu: davout take your wife to amsterdam ?
mircea_popescu: jurov that's vat returns stuff, an entirely different piece of related nonsense.
mircea_popescu: so he waits so you pay.
mircea_popescu: davout he has a perverse incentive : he knows that you're a sucker, and would rather pay him than wait.
mircea_popescu: but considering the state of the dockets, all over the "civilised" world, a < billion corp stands zero chance to be even noticed.
mircea_popescu: now, if it's a big company, it can perhaps push for this to resolve.
mircea_popescu: so now you can sit and look at your 100 euros turning into dust in a warehouse somewhere.
mircea_popescu: ~ fin ~
mircea_popescu: insolvency is never resolved.
mircea_popescu: investigation takes forever.
mircea_popescu: court sets all proceedings aside pending result of taxman investigation.
mircea_popescu: taxman takes note. taxman notifies court.
mircea_popescu: court takes note. court starts insolvency proceedings.
mircea_popescu: company is insolvent. management has to report this. management does.
mircea_popescu: dude you're refusing to see what im saying. again from the top.
mircea_popescu: till 2028 or w/e
mircea_popescu: and waits for the da to finish its investigation.
mircea_popescu: no, you're right. hes appointed. he takes a hoinorary.
mircea_popescu: davout sure.
mircea_popescu: but that's what im saying. it doesn't have to get that far.
mircea_popescu: that's the particular fissure of a kafkaesque nature i wish to draw your attention to.
mircea_popescu: since it's a small corp, nobody cares, and it can wait forever.
mircea_popescu: and you can't touch them. and everyone waits.
mircea_popescu: the situation you find yourself in, practically, is that the 100 euro assets are now locked up, and deteriorating, under court "supervision"
mircea_popescu: it's not of the same nature as everyone else's (those are resolved part of the civil suit)
mircea_popescu: the taxman;'s objection is priviledged
mircea_popescu: no.
mircea_popescu: but you never get that far. i know how it goes on your branch, but youy never get to tyhat branch
mircea_popescu: IF the taxman claims they intend to prosecute the matter.
mircea_popescu: not how this works
mircea_popescu: end of story.
mircea_popescu: the judge sets the file aside.
mircea_popescu: and - importantly - that they intend to prosecute the matter.
mircea_popescu: this is a civil suit. the judge receives an objection from the state's tax attorney, stating that they consider they're owed five eurocents in fines.
mircea_popescu: at this point general manager or w/e party the executive power is vested in is legally required to file for bankruptcy or supervised reorganisation/reconstitution/we
mircea_popescu: suppose there's company x. it owes 110 euros and has assets of 100 euros. right ?
mircea_popescu: doesn't matter.
mircea_popescu: davout no, he doesn't have to actually prosecute it.
mircea_popescu: there's no strict limit on how long they may take, so it can be 25 years.
mircea_popescu: civil suit (ie, the bankruptcy) is suspended during penal proceedings
mircea_popescu: davout well, you file for chapter 11 or w/e equivalent, the da intervenes and objects
mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves so are you concerned that by going to amsterdam you may end up on teh interpol pedo watch list ?
mircea_popescu: davout im not even sure how it works there, but if memory serves you can't even bankruptcy if you've been fined
mircea_popescu: yes yes i get that, there isn't a third reich because you live in the poznan forest, rather than on the warta field
mircea_popescu: this, of course, in stark contrast with the 100% non illegal certs better people are getting.
mircea_popescu: so a bit of a dubious terrain, is all i'm saying.
mircea_popescu: such stuff has been seen in romania, poland, the czech republic and if memory serves the uk
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't count on them not doing something such as changing the tax code mid exercise and then insisting you comply.
mircea_popescu: especially seeing how france works with regards to tax and its budget,
mircea_popescu: because, logically, they will wish to be paid, and will lean on whatever is available.
mircea_popescu: davout i mean as a corporation selling to natural persons, you may or may not end up in hot water with whatever local tax authority if you don't give them a vat.
mircea_popescu: "please guys, spit on us, urinate, anything anything as long as we're involved in any way!"
mircea_popescu: HeySteve: re: bitcoin foundation again, members are resigning: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=603590.0 << lmao you know the BF's desperate for attention when they're actually begging for people disgusted by them to actually leave comments on their otherwise dead forum
mircea_popescu: they have to also act the tax man, and collect and pay ~for you~ the vat ~you owe~ for the government's convenience.
mircea_popescu: which is why when you buy a pencil in a shop, the vat shows up on your bill. even if you should have paid it, the shop is not legally allowed to just sell you the pencil
mircea_popescu: davout: it's a non issue for non-corporate customers, but it might technically be one for corporate ones << im not so sure about that. afaik, most jurisdictions require the provider to collect vat for the customer.
mircea_popescu: davout lol good one
mircea_popescu: jurov: or it's rather F.BUTTCO ? < i would suspect it'd be X.BUTTCO
mircea_popescu: in exchange for a pencil.
mircea_popescu: hello guys. i was told i can find someone on this internet that can rake my yard
mircea_popescu: o look it's a khersonus
mircea_popescu: >I found a way to generate Bitcoins even faster then every Miner, in a legal way. the Methode i use whas checked by local Lawyer and is 100% non illegal. << in general, the mark of a trustworthy doctor or medicine is that it promises to cure 100% whatever health issue you may have, and similarly the mark of competent legal counsel is that they issue 100% non illegalcy certifications
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla:
mircea_popescu: a hip new fashion or a corporate conspiracy ?
mircea_popescu: so mpex is a scam, and cryptostocks is an exchange. i wonder what melanoma is.
mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> imo i dont hink btc atm will catch on on the long run << obviously not. but let the circus of irrelevancy have their fun.
mircea_popescu: o look at that.
mircea_popescu: "MPEx is a scam, and this is one of his shells. The owner of MPEx has multiple aliases that he posts boosting his own image. The first post "Peter Lambert" posted on this thread, was a copy paste they have posted on other security threads before."
mircea_popescu: i'd rather fuck an oven mit.
mircea_popescu: uh. the mother is actually marginally fuckable. the daughters however...
mircea_popescu: fluffypony that's right, this is the channel of the minority of people into bitcoin that aren't also pedos. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile some place completely different : https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/465212935288422400
mircea_popescu: does she even have daughters ?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony fuck
mircea_popescu: !jd mpif
mircea_popescu: so basically collins-rector has a harem too, except of [ex]little boys, among which brock pierce, whom he keeps pushing into bitcoin nonsense.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic lol i gotta love phins' footwork. ask him to come over will you ?
mircea_popescu: http://boingboing.net/2007/11/15/goldfarming-empire-l.html seems to be the better source actually.
mircea_popescu: suicide girls was run pretty much like a scientology work camp afaik
mircea_popescu: "DEN alumni created other Internet sites including suicide girls"
mircea_popescu: "Subsequently, civil lawsuits from boys employed by DEN alleged sexual abuse and coercion using drugs and guns by Collins-Rector, co-founder Chad Shackley, and DEN Executive VP Brock Pierce."
mircea_popescu: right.