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mircea_popescu: i do have various bets bound to make me a lot of monyz if there's no asics this year, so

thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: I feel like option prices are correlated to the bots opinion on which way the price will swing.

Chaaang-Noi: i hope it gets done, ill chip in a btc to whoever does it

Chaang-Noi: sadly i cant post but ill go read:)

Diablo-D3: I have a crappy line, it does nothing.

Diablo-D3: I thought it was usagi

AreFun: I know there's a ton of grape drink in The White House now

mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/gpg-contracts/#comment-90442 << how the fuck do i end up with all the crazies ?

AreFun: last time I checked your skin colour was on the fuckin outside Diablo-D3

mircea_popescu: am i missing something here ?

Maxxxx: but maybe if you slow down I can pull one outta your mouf

mircea_popescu: i mean, for all of the 20th century they've kept pretending and we've kept pretending like they're part of civilisation

mircea_popescu: i just think it's funny how 3rd world the us is.

mircea_popescu: every time i go to log in they give me a jolt.

mircea_popescu: bah i wish cpanel would STOP CHANGING THE LOOKS OF THE WEB INTERFACE

mircea_popescu: i prefer fondling the other girl.

Diablo-D3: mircea_popescu: I think I have a better idea, though

Diablo-D3: but I guess it wont matter

Diablo-D3: well, sometimes. I did it a few times during WW2, some of them wern't so bad.

Diablo-D3: jurov: but I _am_ Lucifer :<

Diablo-D3: I dont want to be assassinated :<

Diablo-D3: how about I write a story about how the rothchilds have a pgp contract with lucifer the morningstar, their god, and thus end the world

mircea_popescu: there's three ways i can see gpg contracts going on

Diablo-D3: I did read it

Diablo-D3: what am I writing?

mircea_popescu: if i had offered .1 btc for some stupidshit like a signature it would be FULL

smickles: so I expect the answer will be "no, it's illegal"

mircea_popescu: i was asking more along the lines of, "when will everyone be forced to put glbse shares as 0 in their books"

smickles: heh, "so how long until i can just start using this btc as my own" (from the issuer's perspective), is that what you're asking mircea_popescu ?

dub: i like it

mircea_popescu: dub i hope it isn't for the reason that the idiots who'd do it lost all their money to scammers already and are facing deportation

mircea_popescu: i know, but i mean the general consensus.

Diablo-D3: wow, I missed DiabloMiner's birthday

smickles: I still have those old IBM clicky keyboards

dub: I recycled two keyboards this week :(

smickles: i just hope my daughter survived the neglect

smickles: oh, sorry, you didn't spoon feed me the info, so I had to actually work at finding it

dub: really? I've been built a few $100k of internets while chatting

smickles: I wouldn't need to

smickles: dub: there'd at least be indications of it from the gov't, b/c i doubt poor african countries pay enough to make it profitable on their own

smickles: I'm still not finding thes people who ship US compies to African countries to be melted down

mircea_popescu: dub that'd just destroy land values, i'd move to their country via gentrification and force them to move to mine

smickles: isn't that what I do?

smickles: well, I mean, mircea_popescu is probably in a better position to do something than I am

dub: well im not sure but I think the free market idea is that he can improve his lot

smickles: ug, compartmentalize? you said it was some contractor from my gov't, i'm looking for that

dub: also if you are going to compartmentalise this into 'the waste I personally generate' well, lol @ the convince smart people stuff

smickles: well, i haven't found details about how most tucson corpo's recycle their compies yet

mircea_popescu: would you have preferred i said "buy nefario flowers" ?

dub: I'm not trying to educate

mircea_popescu: smickles i think he just wants to unwind from the brainless zombie regurgitated crap he's bombarded with non stop in the "civilised" world.

dub: I don't expect that

mircea_popescu: far as i can see it scales just fine.

mircea_popescu: this is sounding like the rape trial. "well... i didn't REALLY want it"

mircea_popescu: dub that's ridiculous. i have caustic stuff in my house, i don't pour it in my eyes

smickles: i'm not forming a defence here, am I?

pigeons: i dump all my garbage when i fly over romania

mircea_popescu: and i seriously see no problem even if all the garbage was dumped on some failed country.

mircea_popescu: this is like saying the market provides me an incentive to chat with you. doth not, considering what i make it'd be hard pressed to.

mircea_popescu: and in any event garbage costs are dismal, i pay 2.8 euros per month

dub: (I presume there is differentiated charging for recycling and common waste disposal in romania)

mircea_popescu: i buy glass bottles. my total plastic consumption is something like a few kgs a year.

mircea_popescu: i recycle because, guess what, i use recyclabe materials.

dub: I know that its not really being recycled, not in a scalable manner

dub: I recycle my rubbish because it saves me money

mircea_popescu: and i suppose it's your fault they're being stupid dub ?

smickles: if all of africal died, i'd say that's a pretty big market opportunity

mircea_popescu: i r fighting the beast of collectivism.

smickles: i've missed something here

thestringpuller: i bet you believe all children should have bullies :P

mod6: maybe i'll get a chance to write something though, we'll see. I just got this new lappy working - its /way/ faster for running the android emulator

mod6: I thought about writing something -- but I better just stick to getting BitOTTer finished

mod6: I read the post for sure - I think its a really interesting/worthwhile idea to get some well-thought out discussion on the matter.

mircea_popescu: why would i care ?

Atomic-Closed: I guess your right

mircea_popescu: i can see the guy's position. how can he know you didn't sell the shares on glbse

Atomic-Closed: I agree

mircea_popescu: i am the fucking dean of age of btc finance. this is sad, i've barely been here a year.

mircea_popescu: i wouldn't take his word for anything.

Atomic-Closed: And is all fairness, I am being a bit harsh, but if nef runs, are we all just SOL?

mircea_popescu: i had no idea shakaru had anything to do with it either.

Atomic-Closed: I heard that his payement went to the repayment fund

JWU_42: I was not aware shakaru had anything to do with their Washington facility

Atomic-Closed: that I dont know

Atomic-Closed: i want it exicuted

smickles: Atomic-Closed: I think you're likely just creating usless drama

Atomic-Closed: I own shares of it

smickles: I know how many shares I had, I likely know how many shares Azelphur has, and I likely know the minimum # of shares imsaguy has. but I can't pay dividends to any of us b/c we have no proof

Atomic-Closed: Im thinking that I just need to post the information then. ITs the lack of response here that is killing me

JWU_42: I am in that boat with YABMC - would love to shut it down but can't at this point

smickles: I know I own X shares of s2cm, but i can't pay even myself dividends

Atomic-Closed: I was told my that investment was safe by the issuer

Atomic-Closed: The issuer knows that i own shares

BTC-Mining: I can talk to Bitbond's issuer... had no problem with that.

Atomic-Closed: I have the logs of the presale and post sale conversations

smickles: Atomic-Closed: well, you can sue, but I could also sue my cat

Atomic-Closed: still dosent mean I cant sue

BTC-Mining: I just don't see how you can pay anyone claiming to be owed anything without a proof. Claims will be much higher than what's owed.

BTC-Mining: I also issued a mining op on GLBSE.

smickles: i mean, it's not like you can prove you were owed dividends, is it?