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assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 11:04:53; mircea_popescu: b6f7f5ce3ab9bddf0bf5c32ec4b01d7ac5a590396ff87ae0a846975cd5303458 solrodar.
thanks for your help!
solrodar: I'm not accusing him of anything here, just giving a bit of context
to
the earlier discussion
nubbins`: you're growing more deaf
to reason
nubbins`: solrodar's claims are backed up by mp's own words in
the log, and
the blockchain
danielpbarron: this is like when some celeb gets outed as a womanizer and all
the girlies out out of nowhere
to retroactively claim he
touched her
nubbins`: do you know what
they call it when
the CEO uses
the company's bank account as his own personal bank account also?
nubbins`: if a single bitcoin address is being used for both "company money" and personal money,
that's setting off alarm bells
solrodar: of course he would argue
that what constitutes "company's money" does not necessarily map directly
to addresses on
the blockchain
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2015 11:04:53; mircea_popescu: b6f7f5ce3ab9bddf0bf5c32ec4b01d7ac5a590396ff87ae0a846975cd5303458 solrodar.
thanks for your help!
danielpbarron: even if all
the addresses were emptied
to 1bitcoineater it wouldn't matter.
nubbins`: solrodar petalol, do you have
the
tx handy?
solrodar: looks like he's in
the habit of using an mpex wallet for personal expenses
solrodar: all indications were
that
the payment was in a personal capacity, and it never appeared on
the statements of mpex or nsa
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2016 12:58:05; nubbins`: asciilifeform i
thought it was fairly obvious
that MP had been divesting since he lost his shirt w/ MPOE?
ben_vouspes: williamdunne: and woefully incomplete. you'll need
to read logs back
to friday or
thursday of last week
to get a notion of what's going on.
PeterL: see
the "miner problem" qntra article
williamdunne: I must have missed
this part on Qntra.. ok I'm going in
williamdunne: Seems like I chose an exciting
time
to reappear
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nubbins`: i'm just gonna fuck off for a while and see if anyone bothers
to care about all
this evidence
nubbins`: this is
the final nail in
the fraud coffin
nubbins`: ben_vouspes i can't see any other explanation. mircea_popescu claimed ownership of B's inputs, and
they came from MPEx. Best-case scenario, mircea_popescu legitimately received
the funds from MPEx and paid
the bettors out of pocket. Worse-case scenario, he paid
the bettors directly with MPEx funds.
williamdunne: danielpbarron:
the part of life I wouldn't
talk in public
ben_vouspes: mpex paying out bitbet bettors, megafuckinglol if
true.
williamdunne: I got kicked, spent a while picking myself up. Wasn't reading
the logs very often, only
Trilema and Qntra
williamdunne: I'm down for working on
that, I started learning last week funnily enough..
williamdunne: Are people working on
translating old
Trilema articles from Romanian?
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nubbins`: interested parties are free
to make
their own decisions on what it means
nubbins`: asciilifeform but
the difference is
that your coin wasn't sent
to bettors.
danielpbarron: ie : in a qntra about silk road cops running with drug funds or
the like
danielpbarron: even if some came or went
to lizzard hitler's address it wouldn't prove a damn because
this kind of analysis can only be held against ~fiat~ institutions
nubbins`: interestingly, 11.5 BTC gets broken off and sent
to gabriel_laddel at one point.
nubbins`: asciilifeform feel free
to verify on your own node; blockchain.info may be incorrect
nubbins`: mumble mumble MPEx funds being sent
to bettors and BitBet getting stuck with
the bill
nubbins`: asciilifeform
that's funds moving out of MPEx address and ending up as inputs
to
tx "B"
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 17:51:29; ben_vulpes: ah well
that's
trivially answerable is it not?
nubbins`: so, put another way: mircea_popescu borrowed money from MPEx, sent it
to bettors, and charged
the expense
to BitBet
nubbins`: the 1Gpng output gets successively split up into a bunch of different pieces, and a chunk of it eventually ends up paying out
the bettors
nubbins`: if you
trace
the chain all
the way back, it actually appears
to be MPEx's money :0
nubbins`: ben_vouspes i'm no blockchain analysis expert but
that doesn't look like bitbet's money
to me
nubbins`: well, y'know, bruised egos are
tender.
PeterL: and it is what, 10 lines if you don't count nubbins` ?
that does not seem very lengthy
☟︎ nubbins`: PeterL he'd find it way harder
to dodge
the fraud allegations otherwise
PeterL: I was going
to ask earlier, but it seemed like a silly question
PeterL: was it yesterday you said you were adding him
to ignore? I was not sure if you still ignored him
nubbins`: i guess hanbot plays so much diablo and loses so much bet money
that doing
the books once a month is an unbearable burden
nubbins`: PeterL
there were a handful of double-month reports late last year
too
PeterL: mircea_popescu I am
talking with nubbins`, I guess you have him on ignore still?
nubbins`: next step: mircea_popescu ignores people who
talk
to nubs
mircea_popescu: PeterL here's
the
thing : in my scrollback you appear as engaged in a lengthy monologue which
twice now highlighted me. are you going
to
take a break on your own or do i have
to ignore you for a while ?
assbot: Logged on 02-03-2016 04:52:38; hanbot: hey mircea_popescu, is it okay if i defer
this month's pc4 report and combine in april?
nubbins`: maybe hanbot lost 17 btc and she & mp are
trying
to come up with some linear algebra
to explain it
mircea_popescu: "As for requirement [4], my sofa may have bugs, such as mites, spiders, or maybe even fleas. However, I have found no evidence on
the web
that such invertebrates have
the power
to cause
theft of anything, much less
theft of digital assets on other sidechains."
mircea_popescu: bah,
talk of a good idea badly executed. why is
this schmuck so humourless ?
fluffypony: no, it's a review of
the Bitcoin Sidechains whitepaper
mircea_popescu: fluffypony is
this some sort of dig at monero or something ?
PeterL: but
there should still be a statement for february, even if it just a signed statement "no bets made or resolved in February"
nubbins`: perhaps
the manager should be revised
PeterL: perhaps
the betting strategy should be revised?
PeterL: should
take about 20 seconds a month
nubbins`: yeah, nothing in feb. guess it was getting in
the way of diablo
nubbins`: sounds like something you'd give your gf
to keep her busy.
nubbins`: PeterL ok so she runs a F.MPIF PC
that.... loses money on bitbet.
nubbins`: i guess
the bet money didn't go out.
nubbins`: it's just buried in
the "assets" section instead of "in/out"
jurov: she publishes
that on
thewhet.net
PeterL: usually it is
there as a small change in
the
total assets
nubbins`: PeterL: not only
that, but
the information contained in
the post you linked just doesn't appear in
the F.MPIF jan financials
nubbins`: PeterL october 2014 is
the most recent month
there was any economic activity in/out
assbot: Logged on 08-03-2016 18:50:50; mats:
the drama continues
nubbins`: go look at F.MPIF statement, show me coins
thrown.
PeterL: mpif is run by mircea_popescu, hanbot only does
the
throwing coins at bitbet part