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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's very little to be explained, so far. "the brain consists of a varying set of individual cells, in the billions, which have a number of internal states that have not yet been enumerated either in the collective or reliably individual cases, which connect to other cells through a process they apparently to some degree control but is not otherwise understood, forming patters that are not meaningfully
asciilifeform: but the 'brain learns' thing is pure nonexplanatory obscuratronium.
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 16:38:47; asciilifeform: 'what, pray tell, was the in-between for ?' (tm) (r)
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 16:31:41; trinque: this leads to being able to wire visual inputs into the tongue, and having the brain eventually learn to make a picture from this
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427882 << hey, and the brain learns to make a food out of hamburgers eventually. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 16:31:18; trinque: I have a friend in prosthetics who once explained at length to me that the brain doesn't begin knowing how to see, smell, etc
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427880 << ftr, this restatement of the plasticity propriety oif the cnc is mostly made of your tradesman's self-flattery (all civilisation is predicated on tramway, sez conductor. neh, on beer, sez publican). ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lsd is ~very~ unstable unless dry crystal kept in the dark. hence why it did not work out as chemical weapon.
BingoBoingo: Can't have nice things
thestringpuller: BingoBoingo: they have these bar stools at work for the high tables. the obese people will sit on them and so the pneumatic pump goes out. so now when a normal person sits on it, it slowly sinks down. everytime it happens I'm like "yup an obese person sat on this"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bottle at room temp for few hrs != city water tower (which has cl, etc)
mircea_popescu: didn't they drink it in cool-aid w/e ?
mats: more so than in sunlight?
BingoBoingo: mats: But would it survive that kind of dilution in water?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is correct, lsd is psychoactive in micrgram dosage. which means that yes, go to coca-cola plant, come out a liter of lsd lighter, enjoy fireworks in a billion people.
mats: a pound of the stuff in a local water source sounds like an interesting experiment
asciilifeform: it is likely that no more than a dozen litres of lsd ever EXISTED on planet3.
asciilifeform: whole thing is idiotic.
mircea_popescu: besides, what the fuck he drank three ?
mircea_popescu: now, THAT.
asciilifeform: or how many hectares of wheat need to be ergoted to make so much as ONE 'drum of pure lsd'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basement could be arbitrarily large because of the nuclear shelter fashion.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> to whomever was running a brute force on my wordpress login << there's thousands of boxes working this 24/7. "seo industry".
mircea_popescu: nice tho, had me wtf'd for a little.
mircea_popescu: srsly, 3 TONS of the stuff ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quote re scientist with the army rations and lsd barrels.
mircea_popescu: "It is not yet known if or when Dr. Winston will be convicted of any crime." indicted, convicted, WHAT THE HELL'S THE DIFFERENCE
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 21:51:30; mircea_popescu: no, guy is just some derp trying to find a place in usg, as opposed to b-a or isis or whatever. that's all.
mircea_popescu: is this a hoax ?!
mircea_popescu: "The Police recovered over $500,000 worth of lab equipment stolen from the University, along with 3 hand guns, an assault rifle, 50 years’ worth of military grade rations and twelve 55 gallon barrels (including three almost empty barrels) of what DEA labs have identified as pure liquid Lysergic acid diethylamide, a powerful hallucinogenic drug more commonly known as the street name LSD or Acid."
mircea_popescu: if he was from 4chan, they'd be all voting for m00t.
mircea_popescu: no, guy is just some derp trying to find a place in usg, as opposed to b-a or isis or whatever. that's all. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: 18* adlai wonders whether the low price tag of responsible disclosure stems from the glass cannon nature << doesn't seem glass cannon-y at all, with any patience you could have hijacked some "notable" accounts made them do some funky shit.
assbot: The necessary prerequisite for any change to the Bitcoin protocol on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UTpmg4 )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/#comment-116750 << people come to trilema, seo their link. trilema gives them a gift in exchange.
danielpbarron: to whomever was running a brute force on my wordpress login, yeah I noticed. time to find a new IP
thestringpuller: saw how much good that did
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: a lot of the snoooooore-fest article coming from likes of armstrong and company, sound like stuff people would rant at occupy wallstreet
asciilifeform: ok now i really gotta check my terminal
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 20:47:52; thestringpuller: #occupybitcoin
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 20:47:52; thestringpuller: #occupybitcoin
thestringpuller: i guess that's all a miner is really...
asciilifeform: 'The cracker is built out of surplus Grass Valley HD video transform boards, scrapped by GV because of defects. A useful tool was developed to assist the board reverse-engineering effort.'
asciilifeform: 'NSA@home is a fast FPGA-based SHA-1 and MD5 bruteforce cracker. It is capable of searching the full 8-character keyspace (from a 64-character set) in about a day in the current configuration for 800 hashes concurrently, using about 240W of power. This performance is equivalent to over 1500 Athlon FX-60 CPUs, which would take about 250kW.'
asciilifeform: (summary: article elementarily demonstrates that a hash of the sha1 type could be designed with trapdoor. and then argues nonsensically that we 'know' there could have been none such.)
asciilifeform: Just before SHA-1, NSA designed SHA-0, for which weaknesses were quickly identified by the research community ... ... [claptrap snipped]'
asciilifeform: ... The original SHA-1 constants are “nothing-up-my-sleeve-numbers“, derived from the binary representation of the square roots of 2, 3, 5 and 10 ...
asciilifeform: 'Did NSA use this trick when creating SHA-1 in 1995? We believe this is unlikely, for
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 19:25:33; *: adlai wonders whether the low price tag of responsible disclosure stems from the glass cannon nature of indiscretionary usage
adlai wonders whether the low price tag of responsible disclosure stems from the glass cannon nature of indiscretionary usage ☟︎
adlai actually wanted to continue the 'philosopher stone' thread!
asciilifeform: ^ to continue the 'no place to sell 0days' thread
thestringpuller: but then again if aliens come down and deliver us philosopher stone that t
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> actually most pro games end in surrender << Seems to be one of the few similarities with ches
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 16:28:24; asciilifeform: l0l looks like i transmitted everything twice
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427870 << i just woke from a nap when reading this, and convinced myself that ~I~ had accidentally skipped up a couple lines and read it again ☝︎
asciilifeform: i got the memo when i was 5 y.o.
mircea_popescu: the sooner they get the memo, the better.
mircea_popescu: the important point being, that there must be no room, no place and no hope for intelligent men in the society of subhumans.
asciilifeform: elsewhere this process is known as 'deskilling'
asciilifeform: no industrial giant remotely contemplated funding the other kind of chess (and there ~was~ work, as recently as early '80s)
asciilifeform: as per earlier thread.
asciilifeform: notice, it had to die ~in this specific way~, that is, by ~unthinking ai~
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform romanian version of the russian word for "dealing with the capitalists"
mircea_popescu: no, we can't have peace with the bourgeois still around. burn them.
mircea_popescu: imo - go-open-to-public was an unwelcome bastion of "impaciuitorism" in the way of the republic.
asciilifeform: which is why it was such an irresistible target for the mediocrity bulldozer.
asciilifeform: go was the last 'noble game'
asciilifeform: but at some point one has to do ~something~
asciilifeform: by the same token mircea_popescu can be glad that he never got seriously into, e.g., programming
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 13:38:44; assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 13:33:19; *: mircea_popescu is incredibly fucking glad he never gave in to the temptation as a child, and systematically never regarded go as anything above or beyond parlor trick to entertain oneself with teh nude houri postcoitally, in spite of perhaps reasonable and well reasoned arguments to the contrary.
asciilifeform: and the incentives were such that the players would rather win.
asciilifeform: to convincingly throw, would take at least the same skill as to win.
asciilifeform: but also that a thrown match was almost impossible to conceal from expert eye
asciilifeform: because, partly, the game attracted the very highest caliber of human.
asciilifeform: somewhat relatedly, my understanding of the history of go, is that match fraud was historically a rarity
asciilifeform: only pointing out that the man obviously failed to depart from his 'firmware'
mircea_popescu: what else is "flashed in bios" ? don't whip the wife ? bow before government ?
asciilifeform: but the 'end by resign' thing is taught to the pros in childhood, flashed into their bios, so to speak
mircea_popescu: fact is, fraud is traditionally inseparable from this sort of central event
asciilifeform: also if lee sedol is not thinking about the 'maximize exposure' thing right now, he'd have to be a fool
mircea_popescu: but none of this changes that... the argument IS there.
mircea_popescu: the argument is there. not particularly strong. also note that the bar for bitbet arguments is crazy low. we've seen absurdities argued the likes of which would scare a highschool teacher.
asciilifeform: because i've already been there, when woke up today and saw the game.
mircea_popescu: well then.
mircea_popescu: you want to maximize its exposure. no conceivable reason to ever quit.
mircea_popescu: how does it work, hassabis goes "hey, quit already, we're running out of tape" ?
mircea_popescu: we didn't know that "surrender" would be an acceptable end.
asciilifeform: in fact, every go robot made to date, at least among the more successful ones, plays like this.
asciilifeform: we knew this is how the machine plays, much earlier
assbot: Logged on 09-03-2016 17:42:39; deedbot-: [Trilema] Give computers the vote. They're cheaper than women, even! - http://trilema.com/2016/give-computers-the-vote-theyre-cheaper-than-women-even/
asciilifeform: unrelatedly, i read http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-03-2016#1427949 and wondering about footnote x. despite standing to lose some coin, i do not see how the bet ought to be seen as a sham ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not so hastily, no. they only started copying under the last sultan, after russian defeat.
asciilifeform: after they hastily copied euros
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform twas deeply bureaucratic. the ENGLISH thought them overbureaucratized.
mircea_popescu: and since i mentioned the armenian genocide - the experience of erryday life among this lower class in the very wot-driven turkish empire quite exactly maps what i expect to be the lot of the keyless in the not-so-distant future.
asciilifeform: as far as i can tell, turks carried on a healthy, 'asiatic' sort of unbureaucratized barbarism for quite some time - witness how well they got on, for how long, without banks, for instance
mircea_popescu: and for that matter - all soviets, personal slaves of stalin.
mircea_popescu: as theory. this theory had lain fallow since suleyman.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not really, no. turks, at least at their height, quite solidly had 'fuhrerprinzip' - all officials, incl. vizir, personal slaves of sultan.