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mircea_popescu: note that hearn and gavin were "there" since year 2.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's no proof you can produce for this strontium assertion.
mircea_popescu: 2. is the usable interim continuation of the bitcoin prototype. which, obviously, doesn't HAVE TO exist at all points to 1, but it may help if it does. we're here mostly discussing 2, i think.
mircea_popescu: 1 is, the perfect bitcoin. which, logically, would NOT conserve coinbases. as such, it has no meaningful humantime continuity with the present Bitcoin, and so it can be done at any point etc.
asciilifeform: pointedly not the same.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:48:50; asciilifeform: so if you lot end up surrendering, i will simply have to add 'bitcoin replacement' to my already tall pile of 'redo computing' pyramid, slowly grind it in my mostly nonexisting spare time, and wait another 20 years to find a new set of sane people, if i live that long.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428537 << there are two important questions that are readily separable, here. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: and note that i include (continue with current bitcoin) in the same (intelligence outside the wot) pile. which it is.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:38:38; asciilifeform: while there many be 'intelligence available outside of the wot', it is ~dead to me~
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428522 << don't make me guess, supposed to be a strategy discussion! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why do you suppose wanna-be singer/waitress sends demos with britney spears' stuff rather than actual music ? "this is fashionable, maybe some rubs off on me!"
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:17:07; fluffypony: most people building crap on top of "a blockchain" have no idea why they're doing so
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428498 << they do, but don't wish to say. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and half of those are built in spaces where provably no problem existsw.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428491 << guy does have it. "bitcoin" as seen by the prb/social media crowd is 99% solutions looking for a problem by weight. ☝︎
punkman: diana_coman: i just hated everything about it. moving/finding things in inventory, trying to equip things and and ending up with phantom copies if I didn't click just right. Trying to walk and floating at a 45 degree angle, falling to death off smooth hills. The claim sticks that are "points" in space and keys and... I dunno. I suppose some of that might have changed already.
nubbins`: thestringpuller / diana_coman it's worth noting that for a game like eulora, which should conceivably have massive amounts of art assets down the road, easier tools for getting those assets in place will drastically increase the volume and quality of em
mircea_popescu: punkman well, maybe wehen jurov releases the slime client :D
diana_coman: uhm, thestringpuller I'll certainly have to study that, so I'll possibly get back to you on this then
punkman: the whole game interface was a pain for me. I'd give it another go when that changes.
thestringpuller: diana_coman: it's a textfile that has no middleware for artist to import assets into the engine. you have to either write it yourself or place the geometry in their yourself. It's 2016 not 1993.
diana_coman: depends on what you mean by "ideas" (i.e. desires in that direction plenty) and by getting rid of planeshift (code is already quite far - in a good sense - from original planeshift and yes, I absolutely want to take it further away)
punkman: diana_coman: ah I missed that somehow
assbot: Logged on 27-02-2016 19:14:30; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the other end of pederasty
diana_coman: re asciilifeform's meaning of pederasty in this context, I use his previous explanation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-02-2016#1416802 ☝︎
assbot: 15th blown, other statements. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1QJIACU )
diana_coman: what's wrong with a textfile per se thestringpuller ?
thestringpuller: jurov: not that I'm a huge fan of unity, but after playing Kerbal Space Program you have to give it a little credit. What it does have is a large layer of middleware which allows for much better asset management. Whereas in Planeshift + Crystalspace it's all handled in essentially a textfile...
jurov: i was thinking about it as potential learning practice for trb... but such things would make alf shit girder beams
jurov: serialization was not possible this way, fortunately client needs to send only dozen types of messages
jurov: ended up with horrible hack whereby in the process of deserialization the values are clandestinely pushed into lisp list...
jurov: i have not looked to doing art, only to network (de)serialization in order for lisp to be able to send and receive messages
jurov: the problem is in opposite direction, to untangle them ☟︎
jurov: thestringpuller what do you mean, turning them into unity?
nubbins`: danielpbarron from "paschal", of or relating to easter. in various spellings, it's a male or female name
danielpbarron: oh, in the context from which I found it, she was called 'he'
thestringpuller: Turning Planeshift + Crystalspace into Unity is like turning Bitcoin into Visa, so I don't think it should be a job for anyone.
thestringpuller: placing art in that game is a PITA. the planeshift engine (on top of cs) comes with 0 middleware.
thestringpuller: did those ever get used in game?
assbot: Logged on 11-09-2013 13:46:32; nubbins`: sneak peek of a concept sketch for the Eulora heraldics: http://imgur.com/Rx0KQDZ
danielpbarron: i thought maybe you designed the item images or something
danielpbarron: ah, so i've yet to see your work
nubbins`: we created all of the heraldics for the family lines (yet to be implemented), i also produced the first round of OS X compilation instructions and helped get eulorum set up / own the domain
punkman: is "lower someone into pederasty" a russian thing? the phrase never made much sense to me
nubbins`: danielpbarron i did several parcels of work for the ministry of games, in paid official capacity as well as volunteer/unofficial capacity.
danielpbarron: what work did you do for the Ministry of Games?
nubbins`: thanks, third-party graphic designer who obviously knows what they're doing
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assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 13:55:25; jurov: drat. so far i failed to observe it with people that i hired
nubbins`: am i literally the ONLY person who understands the rules around here?
nubbins`: besides, i didn't quote you without context, i *misquoted* you in the *midst* of context. jeez.
nubbins`: once i checked the log, i understood that you actually "stabbed" me
nubbins`: sorry, i have a script that changes words of violence to words of kindness
danielpbarron: at least i'm not the catamite in that case
nubbins`: he's a tough pupil
nubbins`: jurov danielpbarron has a lot to learn, he's come to me for guidance
jurov: nubbins`: i take it you're stabbing/hugging each other in the pederasty context
danielpbarron: >> On the other hand professional also implies that you understand how context works, and will never ever under any circumstances omit relevant context when quoting, especially when such omission changes the meaning of your quote and the quoted then has to point this out to you like you were some sort of politician or assimilated retard.
danielpbarron: that's a violation of the rules you like to cite so much
nubbins`: i thought you didn't like me anymore
nubbins`: s.mpoe still tanking
nubbins`: never too late
jurov: drat. so far i failed to observe it with people that i hired ☟︎
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: "Pederasty is an ancient Greek form of interaction in which members of the same sex would partake in the pleasures of an intellectual and/or sexual relationship as part of a socially acceptable ancient custom " << uh ok...
davout: punkman: unless these particular inputs are blacklisted by the Chinese Cartel(TM)
punkman: anyway, doesn't hurt to come up with a pricetag. who knows maybe the satoshi hoard might move this year. ☟︎
asciilifeform: danielpbarron must have eaten that last vial of lsd! i sincerely wish him a good trip. but now i gotta go and start the engine and ride to the place where i sit on a stake for most every day.
asciilifeform: we're talking about ~= 1/2m u.s. here.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: mircea_popescu believes (and i'm not convinced that he's wrong) that hiring people lowers them into pederasty. and he's the ~only fella with money here. so then.
danielpbarron: asciilifeform> the 'reddit appeal' of what we do << i didn't mean reaching out any further than in this very channel
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:59:27; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428499 << davout you forgot 'making it possible to save again'
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428558 <<< true, all these points neatly coalesce into "actually being money" anyway ☝︎
asciilifeform: who have a five-minute attention span and atrocious tunnel vision, and need ~immediates~
asciilifeform: but i was speaking of value to usg looters.
asciilifeform: davout: value to me also.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:41:33; asciilifeform: i was willing to deal with the cpp miseryu of trb because 1) it pre-dates bitcoin being valuable 2) it was - and remains - the schelling point, 'father's pistols'
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428526 <<< have to disagree here, bitcoin had value to me sometime in 2010, the minute i finished the white-paper ☝︎
asciilifeform: the 'reddit appeal' of what we do is ~0, and this is PROPER, and it is in many ways a barometer of doing The Right Thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: but that is pointedly not what we have here.
danielpbarron: well i got nothing else to spend my stupid btc on
danielpbarron: next work is maintaining said trb
asciilifeform: and half of what remains, as usg tax
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i'd have to spend half of that year looking for next work.
danielpbarron: how much do you need for this year off to build sane trb ? maybe we can crowdfund it
asciilifeform: i am having to work 14-18 hrs/day (including slavemine) just to make some of these not-happenings possibly happen.
asciilifeform: just liek many other things, won't be happening.
asciilifeform: but re: the sommelier thing, i would happily supply folks with sane hardware, but this would 1) take serious time & effort while 2) wouldn't pay my billz
asciilifeform: and don't recommend to others to do it!
asciilifeform: i don't buy whole computer (other than portables, for restricted uses)
danielpbarron: you linked some thing on ebay, has amd processer and ecc ram or whatever
danielpbarron: i got that hp workstation you recommened
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 13:00:57; danielpbarron: someone set up that sommelier thing already
danielpbarron: although without a bitcoin i don't have much interest in computer parts anyway, so that's a catch-22
asciilifeform: except to 'hodl'.
asciilifeform: and this means absolutely NO use for sub-orbital quantity.
asciilifeform: i have NO use for btc other than escape glider from my auschwitz
danielpbarron: someone set up that sommelier thing already ☟︎
danielpbarron: yeah that's the question.. what to 'divest' into.. old computer parts?
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 12:17:49; davout: to me there are exactly two use cases for bitcoin/blockchain
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1428499 << davout you forgot 'making it possible to save again' ☝︎☟︎