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asciilifeform: could not, naturally, make this claim for an ms !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is specifically for robot arms
mircea_popescu: seems to me a 50% speed gain in high thoroughput research would be worth money.
mircea_popescu: PeterL well he did make the 10-20x faster claim ?
mircea_popescu: can you cleanly hook it up to an existing unit ?
asciilifeform: fell through each time.
asciilifeform: tried 4, 5 times to buy a used one.
PeterL: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is going to reverse engineer an LC-MS? and what, we get better performance out of it or something?
asciilifeform: when the lab closed, we lost access to the thing.
asciilifeform: sad thing is that i can't easily demo. my outfit never afforded own tecan.
mircea_popescu: PeterL get him in room to pitch his thing, make 15% or w/e ? asciilifeform you should prolly hire someone to make the pitch tho.
mircea_popescu: you know, you two could perhaps help each other ?
asciilifeform: because the alternative is the one discussed.
asciilifeform: PeterL: everyone uses the thing that comes with the instrument.
asciilifeform: now iam remembering things about lm, i had many nice things, had motion planning, could run the thing 10-20x faster thaan 'evoware' (we called it 'evilware') because mine was ~guaranteed~ not to crash, etc.
PeterL: asciilifeform this robot thing looks much like what I saw at Dow, I never used it but I had coworkers who used these things for high-throughput research, I dunno what software they used
mircea_popescu: (well really, it'd be more like "i'd like your x rebased for my tree, here it is, you see problem ?", but w/e)
mircea_popescu: quite how this'd work in sanity.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:46:17; funkenstein_: so when trinque asks me to regrind, perhaps I should ask him for his tree
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429260 << this is actually quite reasonable. trinque : please rebase ? funenstein_ sure, which tree is yours ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: well then i'm glad to hear.
mircea_popescu: how;s that coming along ?
asciilifeform: i came here to learn from him !
asciilifeform: what can i say , mircea_popescu is better arsonist than i
mircea_popescu: my experience, on the contrary - whenever mp as much as vaguely disliked a world, that world caught on fire by itself and cut off its own head.
mircea_popescu: cheap way to make high iq arsonists i guess.
mircea_popescu: well guaranteedly you can't make any mircea_popescu 's thus, they'd simply burn down your world.
asciilifeform: anywy this was long ago and now mircea_popescu knows some of the perspective it gave.
asciilifeform: anywhere there is moving gizmos.
asciilifeform: applicable to other industrial uses incidentally
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if it makes you feel better, i'd buy it for the putative chemistry lab i don't run.
asciilifeform: i busted arse to make that thing. and afaik nothing like it exists to this day.
mircea_popescu: "be less poor" suddenly a lot bitter than previously contemplated, huh ?
mircea_popescu: except by now the shitworld is so thick with shit, it "only works" for approved lottery winner.
mircea_popescu: i mean, this would be the exact textbook example of "work really hard, do something useful, be rich"
asciilifeform: so what if the thing let me use a 5k usd spectrophotometre instead of 50k golden toilet that has FEWER wavelengths ?!
asciilifeform: narrated, even, by yers truly
mircea_popescu: wgat is this tecan ting anyway ?
asciilifeform: one would THINK this would make a diff to someone !>?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: notably, my tecan proggy allows user to use non-branded furniture in the machine.
mircea_popescu: what do they care.
asciilifeform: aha and their idiot crud runs for winblowz.
mircea_popescu: because closed is always a competition of empires, and the chinese got 10x more cash.
PeterL: asciilifeform has it, there is no open lab equipment or software
mircea_popescu: there is also no us research worth the mention.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is NO open lab automation sys.
mircea_popescu: ie, the win98 item is 100k in cash + 4,5mn in fixing it to spec ; this is 340k in cash + 0 etc.
mircea_popescu: only buy open hardware. if hardware is considered for buying, add the cost of reversing and opening it to the bill, to make a proper comparison.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: story is in the logz iirc.
asciilifeform: they hungy up once i explained that 'no this is not a winblows app, it is not a plugin for yours, it replaces 'evoware' '
asciilifeform: no shit, the swiss
asciilifeform: we even got a call with the hw vendor
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: believe or not, when this was new, i even blew a few hundy on... google ads
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in the sad truth of the matter dept, this is kinda why the closed box crud even exists, that's the vp : "by the time someone undoes the shit, it'll be too late for the world to care"
PeterL: some equipment is non-widows, like the NMR
mircea_popescu: this sort of thing readily informs me as to your views re, say, 0day mkt.
asciilifeform: because 'eh it runs anyway, so what if a postdoc has to babysit it'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how many of those things in production ? 100s ?
PeterL: well, sure, but newer winblowz than 98
asciilifeform: and, INTERESTINGLY, i owned the copyright, and then spun off the thing as product, and NO ONE BOUGHT
mircea_popescu: PeterL i thought you did run it on windows.
asciilifeform: but i was not ~hired to do this~, but for something else, i did it as an extra thing
PeterL: ah, if we want to run on win98 station we would have to make driver ourself, but why would we want that?
asciilifeform: !s tecan
asciilifeform: story is in the logz.
PeterL: we get the equipment, we have the manufacturers give us software to run it, then we get to do whatever we want with it
mircea_popescu: which i suppose is as good an explanation as any as to why i don't marry : i own my equipment.
mircea_popescu: a girl i own, i can order to plug into whatever cock i choose. a girl you borrow from her parents - only with prior written permission from owner.
PeterL: Okay .... I don't know where you got the idea any equipment borrowing is going on here?
mircea_popescu: just moreso, because machinery > real estate ever since the industrial revolution.
mircea_popescu: by the same measure, i'd prefer the lab that owns its machinery rather than borrow it from unknown people in unspecifiable conditions.
PeterL: I guess I would say the one that owns a building
mircea_popescu: incidentally, maybe i have a better approach re the other thread. do you suppose PeterL that if you had to take a job with one of two labs, absolutely the same offer in every respect, you'd take the job with the lab that rents space in random buildings or with the lab that owns its own building ?
mircea_popescu: "how to fly!" "don't be poor" < works. "how to cold fusion" "Don't be poor" < fails. what'd money do ?
asciilifeform: there must not BE a 'blackhole tx' button.
mircea_popescu: what's any of that to do with bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: PeterL yes, i'm aware that if we felt like it, we could just buy visa hurr durr.
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:29:36; funkenstein_: they pick and choose what TX to include in a block they mine as always
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429221 << the "all data used to eval a tx is found in that tx" point is paramount and controlling here as there. no, they don't "pick and choose". ☝︎
asciilifeform: PeterL: they can collude to kill you
PeterL: other than running your own mining pool
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 20:24:40; asciilifeform: i.e. that the collective of miners CAN exclude certain tx.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-03-2016#1429211 << it is very difficult to get around this in bitcoin as-is. ☝︎
PeterL: I'm just trying to figure out what you are trying to argue here?
mircea_popescu: you think that was a counterargument somehow ?!
mircea_popescu: i... don't know how to pay.
mircea_popescu: (and yes that means i can read my own fucking x rays, and say to the doctor what he says back to me.)
mircea_popescu: and i have not to date hired anyone to do anything whatsoever i don't know how to do myself. how would i pay them ?
mircea_popescu: PeterL i only hire plumbers because i know how to fix my pipes.
assbot: Give computers the vote. They're cheaper than women, even! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pj8ALv )
mircea_popescu: and let's relate here the immorality of capital, as per http://trilema.com/2016/give-computers-the-vote-theyre-cheaper-than-women-even/#footnote_7_65336
mircea_popescu: a discussion of whether x is an abdication or not can not be decided on the basis of "is it cheaper or faster". because of fucking course it would be, that's what abdication means.
mircea_popescu: PeterL and it'd be cheaper/faster (== easier) for your dad to pay.
assbot: La Terra Trema on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1pj8pjm )
mircea_popescu: (note that this is quite how it worked, for poor people in rural, feudal settings. recommended reading : http://trilema.com/2012/la-terra-trema/ )
PeterL: well, the company can pay me to figure out how to program it or pay the guy who built it to program it, it is just cheaper/faster for them to do it
mircea_popescu: this doesn't abdicate your role, and she would be wise to mary you in this arrangement, yes ?
asciilifeform: it is in the logz even.
PeterL: <mircea_popescu> PeterL and if you tell the head manager that this is a miserable abdication from his job - which is to assure you the stuff will work no matter what, he says ? << If the equipment does not work the way it is supposed to, we speak to our contact and he fixes it, I don't see any abdication of job by manager here?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "many of them" != "here's list"