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assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 23:10:07; mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's not workable, and it wouldn't be workable for
trump.
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assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 23:09:57; mircea_popescu: so importantly - understand
that it's in no sense a matter of 'stop being you, be somebody else'. anyone else would confront
the same exact problem,, which is
to say
that
this is not able
to stand on its own. would work superbly as an add-on product of a company offering
this kinbd of
thing
that can x-sell it.
mircea_popescu: yeah, it metastasized into idiocy, but originally it's
the very logical observation
that
the draw needed
to make sales in b2b is much larger
than consumer.
mircea_popescu: incidentally,
this
trap is what informs
the vc circus' derpage about "big" bla bla.
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, it's not workable, and it wouldn't be workable for
trump.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: so importantly - understand
that it's in no sense a matter of 'stop being you, be somebody else'. anyone else would confront
the same exact problem,, which is
to say
that
this is not able
to stand on its own. would work superbly as an add-on product of a company offering
this kinbd of
thing
that can x-sell it.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i wouldn't
take
this failure
to be more informative
than it is.
the
technology never entered into discussion, it failed on economic grounds.
mircea_popescu: just
the fact
that i have
toi make an entry in my phonebook is $$$.
mircea_popescu: just so
the cost of dealing with some dude is not 0 in any sense.
mircea_popescu: much like
the cost
to send bitcoin
txn,
that random derps imagine
to be "=fee" is in fact something like 0.5
to 5 btc PER
TX, if you include EVERYTHING ytou need
to run bitcoin payments,
mircea_popescu: this is a large part of
the problem.
there's a hidden barrier
to entry here,
that is
the "cost
to enter wot". ie, as a manager of x item, i MAY consider dealing wioth nobody. but not over anything.
mircea_popescu: not
to say it is your fault,
tho. but i can see why it didn't sell, needn't any conspiracy
to explain it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you forget
that in a previous lifetime i made a lot of money out of insepcting and changing production workflow.
mircea_popescu: ok, so what i'll say is, "this machine, once deployed, would improve your workflow by about 15%, which is worth about 50k or so. it could also be had hiring
techs, at a cost of about 60k a year for
the machine's lifespan"
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> now, your addon, if deployed would, for
the average usecase, provide an improvement of what ? 10% ? 50% ? 300% ?
mircea_popescu: and in other news, omfg
this provolone is magnificent.
mircea_popescu: seeing all
the recent scandals with falsifications etc, i'd be much surprised if
they even run
the equipment anymore, so yeah.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you don't have
the experience
to discuss
typical, discuss case study.
the one
time you
tried
this.
mircea_popescu: i don't care how fucking different
they are.
typical case will be had or
the sky falls.
mircea_popescu: it is, much like
the "average voter", "median consumer" etc, a fiction, made by some methods.
mircea_popescu: looky : a "typical case" is a convention, allowing management
to make judgements.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea, but
that doesn't mean it's not your job
to.
mircea_popescu: now, your addon, if deployed would, for
the average usecase, provide an improvement of what ? 10% ? 50% ? 300% ?
mircea_popescu: maybe
the economics are just not
there, let's
try and quantify
this.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> iirc i spammed reddit, fwiw << FWIW, after sporatic success it has
taken about "3 ani experienta" before I got rather reliable results infultrating
the various web
traffic concentrators
to gather eyes.
mircea_popescu: "putting final gravestone" and writing
the above story are not
the same.
BingoBoingo starting
to
think
this actually kinda sounds like a pete_dushenski problem
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "here's how we
tried - and failed -
to do somerthing useful"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for my own curiosity, was
this ever on, say, slashdot ?
assbot: Logged on 10-03-2016 21:01:33;
thestringpuller: modern alchemy? psuedoscience in a sense... But I was more referring from
the psychological
transition of viewing
the world
through
the lens of alchemy vs.
that of chemistry
mircea_popescu: my previous idea of "normally
this is how
this sort of
thing gets killed"
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't expect
to come out of your bosses' cake, on a day's notice, would you.
mircea_popescu: you have
to understand,
this is an actual job, exactly as respectable as whore.
mircea_popescu: while i am not actually saying "well
that's why", do bear in mind you're a miserable closer.
mircea_popescu: when you say "we did pitch" do you mean, you went into
the room, or did you hire someone who does
this professionally ?