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mircea_popescu: a a
ThickAsThieves: its a little wonky
mircea_popescu: i can't believe they dion't have a chart system
mircea_popescu: is there a ltc chart like bitcoincharts anywhere ?
AndChat567216: It's perhaps discussed already... but why not a MPEX proxy as TOR hidden service?
ThickAsThieves: ltc has a use just in that you can play it against btc
bgupta: Bowjob.. a big chunk of BTC miners are gonna be mining LTC so...
mircea_popescu: a 2lb pork chop
bgupta: ok my typing has suffered tonight as I drank a bottle of manzanilla
bgupta: meh… guessing price is gonna need to consolidate a bit.. before it can go up again
mircea_popescu: just because your master stripped you naked and beat you with a whip doesn't mean there's no need for whips in this new state you're making "for freedom".
bgupta: gotcha… ok I have to admit, I think the shit futures/options/derivatives are gonna make a number of folks very rich, I wish we could leave all that baggage behind is in the fiat world. We don't need wall street and hedge funds and institutional folks to "help us along"
mircea_popescu: there, that's a list of what traded past month
mircea_popescu: that;s a proxy.
bgupta: mircea: I am looking for a "stock exchange"
mircea_popescu: there's also a rss but atm unavailable.
bgupta: fuck it's all a gamble
mircea_popescu: anyway. it's a gamble on multiple scores.
mircea_popescu: lol that's not a problem, the internet was born to kvetch
mircea_popescu: but yes, there's a large assignment market in it too, otc.
mircea_popescu: "everyone". hm. it's more of a "everyone that's bitching about it is bitching about it".
bgupta: ok.. that would make trading difficult for me if it was a trading cost.
bgupta: SO the muse thing that everyone bitches about the 30btc thing.. that's just a one time thing, no?
mircea_popescu: it's a little lala
mircea_popescu: through a weird agreement they don't sign
Bowjob: theres a second piano downstairs that i do not care about
bgupta: what does that mean they "blew a listing"
bgupta: mircea: Is there a way to buy straight up shares of asicminer, without doing passthrough stuff?
gribble: Error: "gpginfo" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "getinfo" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, and Topic plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get".
bgupta: I perhaps overshared, and for that I apologize, I;m a bit too open that way.
benkay: that's a lot...
bgupta: I get to onsite awesome folks to NYC to talk to a bunch of geeks
mircea_popescu: "Japan needs to face up to reality, and take real steps to correct its mistakes... so as to prevent a further escalation,"
bgupta: benkay: I run a small consulting company.. it's not just me… so most of my time is spent doing business stuff not learning
dub: tis potentially a nice way for someone to cash out $200k of btc too
bgupta: mmm.. to make a dollar you need to sell a body, brutal.. no real leverage, no real product.
bgupta: I do consulting which is a brutal business.
benkay: true of any market of a reasonable size
dub: its probably worht throwing a thread up about it
bgupta: Yeah sure.. I run a LUG.. which I LOVE.
bgupta: if someone flush with btw wanted to take it off my hands I'd be cool.. but that's a side bar..
bgupta: point is that if I worked really hard I could sell it for $200,000, or if I worked even harder, I could build a kick ass business with a cool domain name that's easy to type.. I have time for neither atm.
mircea_popescu: the way to go is just invent a name and use that as your tm and domains
benkay: doesn't mean i don't think that putting it all on a specific slot on the fucking roulette table is a good idea
mircea_popescu: but a ny times blog hit is nothing in this discussion.
benkay: not in a high-competition, high-growth, environment
bgupta: yeah.. I've been holding it, because one day when I do a startup, I want a unique domain name to do it with.
dub: man up and use it for a shock site tbh
benkay: capture a small fraction
bgupta: which means you can't build a company or a brand around them
dub: you don't want that for a brand
bgupta: well we are a bit different in that we use irc and weirdly named forums for most of our info. we seek out knowledge
Chaang-Noi: btc.com is a porn site oh lol
mircea_popescu: there's people in btc that can afford 200k for a domain.
Chaang-Noi: i hold tygrr.com and bitcoins.lc not really worth a whole lot.
mircea_popescu: no "memorable domain" has a site worth anything on it.
mjr_: it is hard to get a one word domain
mjr_: when i was looking into getting a domain name for my site
mjr_: that is a scarce resource
mjr_: i meant as part of a budget involving web presence
mircea_popescu: but it is very much for a domain
mjr_: 200k is not much for a big company
mircea_popescu: and wth, it boggles that anyone'd pay 200k for a domain.
bgupta: It's a fallow asset..
bgupta: It's the most valuable thing I own, and it goes up about 7% a year in value
bgupta: well I had it appraised for $250,000.. but to sell it, i'd need to put a lot of time into adverttising, and likely need to retain a domain broker.. and then take a huge hit on taxes..
Chaang-Noi: im sure its a good name but you are going to have to hit the right people to get that much out of it
bgupta: been paying whatever a year for the standard domain registration..
bgupta: If it was USD I'd want a bit more, but it is a digital only transaction, so I'm willing to do it for a little less
Chaang-Noi: dub i did that already, traded my car in and got a truck
dub: Chaang-Noi: im thinking about turnign some asicminer into a truck
bgupta: I had it running was paying way to much for hosting in a real datacenter.. so shut it down last april when they changed the algorithm,,
bgupta: the loss will be a day of my time figuring out how to setup the softare
mircea_popescu: if by hardware you mean gpus bgupta it's a loser for him. and prolly for you too.
bgupta: In the past no, unfortunately…. now… I have a partner willing to pay electricity if I provide hardware and we split proceeds 50/50.. I think it's a loser for him though.. mircea_popescu yes sorry not reading what I am typing..
mjr_: mircea_popescu: also i can host a mirror if you like...it will be pretty tough for them to take out a GAE instance
bgupta: held it fallow for the past year or so… but the recent spike in price got me wondering if spinning up made sense (I decided no since the a sic stuff is imminent)
bgupta: so back when btw rallied from zero to about 10 it caught my attention… and I made a decision to invest in gnu mining gear. by the time I got my gear up and running it had spiked up to to 30+ and then crashed… I ran my rigs at a loss for almost a year, but when the algorithm changed, I decided that investing the wrk to reprogram them was a loser and shut it all down.. I managed to hang onto a minuscule 500 b
mod6: oh, so the bummer so far is... i maybe shouldn't have done a commit in there and had left those files to be still able to interface with mpex or a proxy in a way thats outward facing... if that ever happens again
mjr_: and retrieving a dynamic web page at a different address
mod6: so, I cleaned up the dir a bit on github, got rid of bitotter_vwap.pl and bitotter_depth.pl and its merged into this now: https://github.com/modsix/bitotter_perl/blob/master/bitotter_market_data.pl
mjr_: i meant buy a call for each put sold
mircea_popescu: it's a self limiting issue
mjr_: and if you are obligated to buy a lot
mircea_popescu: basically a p500 can never cost more than 50 bucks
mjr_: i am going to do some exploring on a pairs strategy
pizzaman1337: mircea_popescu: I think I understand it all, thanks. I'll have to give it a shot sometime.
gribble: Error: "48.5" is not a valid command.
mircea_popescu: you put up a little more, which pays for insurance.
Namworld: If it goes to a lower fraction, even more.
Namworld: With a call, you need to put up 1 BTC collateral so it's always 100% covered
mod6: sorry guys, just a few more tests..
mjr_: mircea_popescu: i have to imagine that your bot buys them as part of a hedging strategy
Chaang-Noi: o kinda wan t to just walk away from btc land for a month come back and see what is going on...
kakobrekla: a
mircea_popescu: a that'd be insane
kakobrekla: is that in and out going to be a casual thing ?
mjr_: that is a smart idea