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mircea_popescu: i guess either we see a bunch of more games where
this
theory is
tested, or else
the great achievement goes into storage
to keep
the d-wave company.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 10:20:24; mircea_popescu: ascii_field> anyone else here read
the lee sedol games? << i've looked
through.
thestringpuller: only if my coworkers actually worked as
they do here when working from home
polarbeard: I don't commute, code can be
transfered over
the wire :)
thestringpuller: meatspace is always over busy. if only
traffic didn't exist.
mircea_popescu: "
This firm grasp of sex and gender allowed Kasich
to authoritatively heap praise on
the legions of women who left
their kitchens
to help his campaign (archived)."
shinohai: "Unrelated but why is
this site's logo a bunny on a fucking Confederate flag?"
polarbeard: sup
trb, any development going on since my patches got fired? B)
nubbins`: so
the outstanding liabilities
to shareholders could be as high as 50%,
tho i doubt it.
nubbins`: altho i guess
technically
they also could have sold 1mn shares each from 3.2 (f)
nubbins`: (ipo proceeds were paid directly
to mp/kako rather
than
to bbet)
nubbins`: punkman 70 of
those 100 btc belong
to mp/kako anyway
mircea_popescu: old links still work, main page
tho is borkt. mebbe it comes back.
mircea_popescu: punkman> would
that 100btc have
to come out of bet money? << what 100 btc ?
mircea_popescu: of both kinds, i guess. with any luck, balance shifts slowly
to
the left as
time goes on.
mircea_popescu: xm2hi> yeah, and about
the ecosystem
that Mircea has created. impressive records. << - >> ascii_field> <<
there will be maxint of
these now won't
there.
mircea_popescu: but yes, by and large
there's a lot of discretionary room for receiver.
mircea_popescu: a "bitbet is in receivership, send no more bets"
thing, give it a week or w/e. i doubt
the receiver would have
to wait out any ongoing bets, can prolly just refund if
the reasonable resolution is
too far away in
the future.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski> mircea_popescu: does
the bbet receiver have
the authority
to determine
the cut-off date for acceptable wager resolutions and
to refund any bets submitted but deemed "too far away" for
the receiver
to reasonably hold
the funds in escrow ? or is
this line in
the sand
to be drawn by you and kakobrekla ? << in general
this'd be
the receiver's authority. a reasonable path is you know, get
the domain, put up
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> was
that
the one where operator
turned out
to be << yes, with
the reserve
these ex post facto "turned out
to be"
things deserve.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field> anyone else here read
the lee sedol games? << i've looked
through.
☟︎ adlai might actually like it in
that case,, being a nihilistic fraud himself!
BingoBoingo: adlai: 'Murican politics is like pop kabala, it's nihilism and fraud all
the way down
adlai: probably best
to leave it
thus; 'math is hard'!
adlai must admit
that before reading
this latest article, he wasn't sure which party kasich celebrates; and
that is still
the case
adlai gives up, after a dozen painful minutes spent
trying
to squeeze a beatbetification pun out of rosy-smelling corpsorations
BingoBoingo: Please feel free
to add further lulz in comments
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 21:13:18; ascii_field: ben_vulpes: folks have destroyed far more precious machines
than bbet by elbowing 'wrong button'
nubbins`: danielpbarron does
that say
that mp and kakobrekla are on
the hook for
the 0.00001 BTC per share? it says "the representatives", "they solemnly promise and warrant"
punkman: seems like S.MPOE holders didn't like
the bbet announcement
punkman: would
that 100btc have
to come out of bet money?
danielpbarron: >> (j) In
the event of
the sale of BitBet or voluntary liquidation
thereof, all proceeds will be distributed fairly
to all shareholders by proportion
to
the shares
they hold.
danielpbarron: >> (a)The representatives of BitBet have elected
to divide BitBet into 10`000`000 (ten million) equal non-voting shares with a
total equity value of 100 BTC (0.00001 BTC each). In
the event of liquidation or breach of
this Agreement
they solemnly promise and warrant
to repay all investors holding shares at
this minimum value.
adlai: or rather,
the better question for discussion - why would anybody want
to own shares now?
adlai wonders who's bot(s) is/are still buying all
this S.BBET (at bargain prices!)
danielpbarron: i was gonna say, it
took you all weekend
to read
them? but
that last bit is probably more
than a weekend long read
xm2hi: and learning about
the risk management.
xm2hi: yeah, and about
the ecosystem
that Mircea has created. impressive records.
nubbins`: i'd say many people are reading
the listing agreements
xm2hi: spent
the whole weekend reading MPEX
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 20:38:09; ascii_field: is
this
traditional? (i am not connected with any of
this, merely curious how it worx)
xm2hi: getting
to know
the you guys.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: does
the bbet receiver have
the authority
to determine
the cut-off date for acceptable wager resolutions and
to refund any bets submitted but deemed "too far away" for
the receiver
to reasonably hold
the funds in escrow ? or is
this line in
the sand
to be drawn by you and kakobrekla ?
adlai: thestringpuller: i was gonna link you
to `!s from:ascii ersatz` but you're right
there
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: why do you hate neural nets? what did
they ever do
to you?
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 22:46:10; ascii_field: anyone else here read
the lee sedol games?
mod6: thanks for
testing
that out
mod6: shinohai: good
to hear.
shinohai: ;;later
tell mod6 gentoo
trb v99995 was a success
assbot: Logged on 13-03-2016 21:40:59; mircea_popescu:
there's been if memory serves exactly one case of delisted company on
these grounds, bvps.
mpSCAM: whats
there
to converse
mpSCAM: and
tried
to blame
the miner collusion LOL
mpSCAM: you got owned popescu games
the exchange
danielpbarron: nope i'm up despite
taking a pretty substantial loss on bitbet
pete_dushenski: "Incentive problems arise due
to
the presence of asymmetric information or imperfect commitment, which lead agents
to act according
to
their own biases or preferences rather
than in
the interest of
the organization" <<
timely
pete_dushenski: if anyone is having
trouble accessing contravex, lemme know. just finished blocking a bunch of ip addresses.
mircea_popescu: there's been if memory serves exactly one case of delisted company on
these grounds, bvps.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well, it gotta produce monthly statements. currently we can't do
that. mpex wasn't historically very strict with
this, but it certainly won't last forever.
ben_vulpes: mk.
then
the contractual obligation bitbet is failing
to uphold leading
to its delisting would be kakobrekla's declining
to convey his acceptance of
the statement, without which shareholders cannot be paid out?
ben_vulpes: "aforementioned signed document" refers
to "special spreadsheet"?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: bbet contract 3.1d refers
to 3.1b, correct?
pete_dushenski: ;;later
tell mats feel like running another audit on bbet's reserve capital ?
mircea_popescu: iirc he did one of
the very few clean closedowns in
the space
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 2 days, 20 hours, 12 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get
that
thing out
the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already
BingoBoingo suspects a very mike_c sort of flavor on
this job
ascii_field: (because he cannot, no matter what, outsource he
task)
ascii_field: and as i understand, receiver needs
the
technical ability
to unravel kakobrekla's code
ben_vulpes: perhaps mircea_popescu plays a different game here
though.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: game
theoretically permawedges obviously.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i don't specifically care. as long as
the person seems competent... hey.
ben_vulpes: this is going
to be hung, as
the receiver will have
to answer as
to
the disposition of your charge, and either way one of
the founders is going
to refuse an unfriendly nominee.
ben_vulpes: ultimately
though it'd just be you and kako hearing.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i was
thinking, interviews.
think senate hearings for appointees.