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mircea_popescu: trinque i recall me losing my top over this back in 2013ish or w/e the first time bitcoin-idiocy got in the way of bitbet, being told "oh wait, this is an actual problem - we don't resolve problems, we write code here at prb!"
mircea_popescu: davout> this "accounts" thing is such an abomination... << consensus on this since... 2011 ?
mircea_popescu: trinque> I'm aiming to build the calls necessary to run deedbot's needs over shiva. << bless your heart.
mircea_popescu: my sister killed more than these by being a kid and accidentally stepping on their heads than i can recall.
trinque: yep, you have finite volume and items of varying volume and value, want to pack the knapsack by optimal value
asciilifeform: and from it flow the other atrocities of the 'wallet'.
asciilifeform: the notion of the machine undertaking to solve the knapsack problem is ludicrous in itself.
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 15:14:21; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1434076 << l0l wut, the circa-2013 usb miner thing ??
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1434210 <<< the rasperree-pee-that-can-also-mine-sort-of ☝︎
davout: this "accounts" thing is such an abomination...
asciilifeform: this is O(N) trinque.
trinque: this seems heavy given the db structure used
trinque: hypothetically I would like to simply be able to inquire the balance of any address at any time
trinque: I was simply keeping a sqlite db of txns
asciilifeform: you need the blockchain for this.
trinque: I can do the latter two outside too
trinque: asciilifeform: right, I would at least need sendrawtxn (can make txn elsewhere) but it would also be nice to have createrawtxn and signrawtxn I suppose.
asciilifeform: and go from that to tx-crafting
asciilifeform: which is to say, incorporate db calls into shiva
davout: trinque: that -0.00020000 comes from the "accounts" mega-turd?
asciilifeform: imho the mega-reasonable thing to do, and the thing i would be doing right now if not sitting on a stake possibly, is to abstract out the wallet idiocy
asciilifeform: trinque: what do you need to make this go ?
trinque: too much manual lever-pulling at the moment
trinque: I'm aiming to build the calls necessary to run deedbot's needs over shiva.
asciilifeform: you end up with this barf.
asciilifeform: wallet (incl. trb) ~much~ dislikes doublespends
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 14:19:29; trinque: "" : -0.00020000
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1434092 << i learned one way to achieve this 'wonder' - doublespends followed by normal spend ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1434076 << l0l wut, the circa-2013 usb miner thing ?? ☝︎☟︎
jurov: mircea_popescu: pls to mpex
asciilifeform: incidentally every time i open my idiot mouth and talk to colleagues, another one of my 'every boy must have...' assumptions drops like a fucking fly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is the clear winner in the moar-orc contest.
asciilifeform: i imagine every boy broke something when 'made to share' at some point
mircea_popescu: i prefer to practice safe sex rather than safe assumptions.
mircea_popescu: hey, i dunno what posterity is like. maybe they're retarded.
mircea_popescu: in case this is not obvious, transparent parallel to our bitbet adventures.
asciilifeform: there is no entry in the bookz for 'asteroid' either.
mircea_popescu: wwwwwwellllll then.
asciilifeform: 'jump up twenty metres and scatter yerself around a bit'
asciilifeform: 'whaddoido if a shell lands in my trench??'
asciilifeform: (not even maxint - you could pay maxint, theoretically.)
asciilifeform: you can't put motherfucking collapse on the books.
asciilifeform: the king actually doing his thing is a best-effort affair aha.
mircea_popescu: so... how do you put the subway on the donut shop's books!
mircea_popescu: as you recall, police is not obliged to serve you.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ha-HA ? tax offers no guarantee.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well traditionally it is whatever the tax is, no ?
mircea_popescu: because it clearly IS part of the books, right ? trivially enumerable, as it is. just not easy to evaluate.
asciilifeform: calculate how much of, e.g., nyc, you would have to level and convert to garage, and how much to level to convert to 32-lane streets, to have a (c) everyone drives
mircea_popescu: so tell me, as a curio : what is the correct accounting for "city having subway" in the books of a donut shop at the corner of 85th and 10th ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: megalopolis dies without either a) subway or b) the folks who work there, living there
mircea_popescu: "no subway, no travel - i don't own a 1/100000 of the 100`000 spare car meta-pool, nor do i have anything to do that'd justify it."
mircea_popescu: and silly me, to think that the guys in the subway are there by choice, and they could do something else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, the assumption that alternatives exist died in practice yet again ?
asciilifeform: interestingly, no effect visible to naked eye from the city subway here being closed - seems as if usg took the day off..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform is coincidentally the pompous name of the place where the events discussed transpired.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1434153 << don't confuse with valhalla hall, with the valkyries. nirvana hall is just that 20 m^3 concrete cesspool from mircea_popescu's old article. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in the same vein, mihai margineanu playing atm, just went "whenever you ask a question you don't expect answered ; why are you surprised when you get an answer you didn't expect".
mircea_popescu: trinque "but what is the meaning of the colors!" "the wild fox is dead"
trinque: https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/800/1*e-IrhTIQQ2-GaOdbDMYxGw.png << ahahahahaha check that out. model of consciousness even
assbot: On Kōans and Turing Machines — My Satsang — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/21vaiFa )
mircea_popescu: adlai you realise - google is even better at koans than at go.
mircea_popescu: "meanwhile this cock ain't gonna rub itself, so here we are".
mircea_popescu: "gotta do something while waiting for buddha to decide christ's more fun and come back to save or someshit."
mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit, "what's the meaning of coincidence ?" "dunno dood, HE HAD TO FUCKING COME FROM SOMEWHERE" hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: "if you meet a derpy teenager with whispy "beard" hair, onanistic odours wafting every which way who can'tstop prattlingabout his erotic exploits...
adlai: btw: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-01-2016#1386701 << yes totally you have no idea. you should try it sometime! ☝︎
adlai: they were right about killing them! put them out of their fucking misery, can't you hear it in their "bushels of flax"
mircea_popescu: i'm not sure there exists but i'm sure i don't know anything more offensive than the precious derpage in the eastern tradition.
mircea_popescu: motherfucking hell these idiots already.
mircea_popescu: A student asked Master Yun-Men (A.D. 949) "Not even a thought has arisen; is there still a sin or not?" Master replied, "Mount Sumeru!"
mircea_popescu: so i made the mistake of following the tardpedia link. therein,
assbot: Kōan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1VckfYs )
adlai: ( for the heathens - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dan#Killing_the_Buddha )
mircea_popescu: but yes, that's the major problem of murder : a private act with major public effects. pretty major conundrum.
mircea_popescu: discretionary acts are that, discretionary. no explanation is available for the private sphere.
adlai wanders off in search of the buddha
mircea_popescu: you see the difference between to explain and to justify yes ?
adlai attains enlightenment - "chix" are not subject to "murder"!
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 01:52:22; mircea_popescu: the alternative is nothing. murder's not something to be explained.
mircea_popescu: nobody's going to do your work. you wanna talk to the adults, talk like the adults.
adlai: well it was definitely after i joined the channel, if that limits the search space.
mircea_popescu: adlai can't propose weird stances for mp to have taken in the past and then crap out on the documentation.
adlai: it's 4:20, i got blunts to burn and chat to spurn.
mircea_popescu: best find the link.
mircea_popescu: i don't think justification was attempted.
adlai: somebody on better terms with that man oughtta invite him in here someday.
adlai: (for the lispless in the audience, cells are a human invention, by kenny tilton)
adlai: although the * in that context was just a bunch of cells!
adlai: mircea_popescu: i wanna answer with a log link, but the search is failing so i'll quote instead: "mircea_popescu: *-cide is never justifiable"
assbot: The chick incident on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/21v8z2T )
trinque: when I had a cat it killed things all the time, for fun.
adlai: the child should have been spanked! you don't just go around letting your kids kill things, without a little flick on the butt
mircea_popescu: what's so terrible about it ?
adlai: aha looks like trinque is pulling a ben_vulpes ?
adlai: mircea_popescu: that is such a terrible story, the child should have been spanked for chiccicide
trinque: adlai: your deed will send as soon as this thing reimports its key into the wallet for the 30th time
nubbins`: jurov it would make things easier
nubbins` guesses nobody except for that one turbo-unqualified nobody
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 11:50:11; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla and at any point prior to march 2016 i would have readily believed that. now however, is simply something i can't discern.