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MJR_: well double entry accounting says I have
a receivable
MJR_: in
a sense I suppose
splnkr: now would be
a good time to get started
smickles: if i lend 1 btc to
a person with good enough credit in the community, i can treat the owenership of that loan as money (about equal to 1 btc)
MJR_: if I say
a barrel of oil
MJR_: I can only lose one bitcoin because its
a contract to buy one bitcoin
MJR_: what is my potential loss when selling
a call?
smickles: splnkr: that's
a pipedream tho
splnkr: that's
a lot more than 100
MJR_: to be honest...I don't have
a lot of coin
smickles: i bet
a lotta people look at this chart and see nothing but pump and dump
smickles: we've been outside of
a 20day std. dev. for 3 days now
smickles: i think the high comes from mtgox's
http ticker, and the last is
a stored value from the websocket
gribble: Error: "bc,24hprc/" is not
a valid command.
MJR_: I think there is
a huge untapped market for
a more ubiquitous shared work space
jurov: but he got
a daughter so was never around
MJR_: is it
a nomination thing?
MJR_: I guess it is just don't let pretty effects be
a crutch or mask poor functionality
ThickAsThieves: new fringe marketing is always passe after
a year or two
MJR_: anyway, I am
a generalist, jack of all trades
MJR_: I just think that
a lot of people are too focused on appearances, and it's kind of shallow in the web startup scene
splnkr: those born after Reagan probably know
a thing or two about Ronald, but those of us who lived through it remember NANCY
splnkr: sure, but i'd bet it skews
a whole generation older than #bitcoin =P
papaso: open
a account need to pay 30btc to owner?
Ukto: they are borked? is there
a link ?
Bowjob: since i've got nothing productive to do but fap all day, and I don't feel like working
a min wage
Bowjob: hey mp, is your offer of get MPEX mentioned at
a newspaper?
mircea_popescu: tiberiusiv it becomes problematic tho. the poor probably quit already, the rich really don't have
a problem of getting fiat
mircea_popescu: "Internet tax supporters are hoping that
a vote in the U.S. Senate as early as today will finally give them enough political leverage to require Americans to pay sales taxes when shopping online.
mircea_popescu: since most take the fiat first as
a precaution there's unwanted short interest created in large volumes all the time
mircea_popescu: not terribly likely. so far she's getting
a dissident wing in her party
mircea_popescu: when it gets to the point where retired folks see plainly they're riding into
a wall and they have no clue you know things won't end well.
Bowjob:
a vacation.. they already did so much.. might as well finish the damn job
Bowjob: what i dont get is why are they taking
a vacation
Bowjob: 75% of the voters think BFL should get
a scammy tag
mircea_popescu: The week of activities are set to conclude with
a “Lace and Leather Burlsesque Show.”
Bowjob: not that
a bot would spam bitbet but lol
Bowjob: and
a bot can easily spam it if they know the answer
Diablo-D3: I assume milk toad gives you
a unique address to send to
mircea_popescu: Diablo-D3 that aside, making
a support ticked with your legit btc/usd exchanger on how to do this...
Diablo-D3: I mean, how can you NOT know thats
a cia op
Diablo-D3: I just wrote
a script that can calculate your SD earnings if you keep putting your entire money in
Namworld:
A statement of the obvious. I prefer when they don't talk.
Bowjob: i watched him as i walked upstairs, didnt go to the
a&w closeby
Bowjob: he said he was gonna buy
a burger
Bowjob: I gave
a hobo $5.00 today
midnightmagic: Don't worry, it's just because you're
a sociopath. I'll care enough for the both of us.
midnightmagic: Well, if you think this is all
a one-way sponge going on, I guess we're done.
mircea_popescu: you made some statements of
a third party, they're part of the public record,
midnightmagic: The drive to know
a specific topic is very personal, especially when it's the personal drives of someone else.
mircea_popescu: no. caring is personal. knowledge is impersonal. there's
a categorical distinction you're trying to equivocate.
midnightmagic: Yeah but why? If I'm so inconsequential, so vapid that everything I ascribe to you is somehow just
a reflection of self, and you're this bulletproof supercock, then why do you want to know?
midnightmagic: Well, the vitriol you post here and on your blog is quite
a vent.
midnightmagic: What is your problem anyway? Like if bitcoin is such
a source of contention for you, why don't you just shake your head at its stupid inanities (sociopathic community elements included) and move on?
midnightmagic: It's
a personal loss of potential future earnings. I would say it's purely internal.
midnightmagic: Just simple disappointment because I was considering at last doing
a trade-in of my Icarus but I don't want them to charge me batch #3 prices.
midnightmagic: I wouldn't call it aesthetic nor ethical objection to
a price increase.
midnightmagic: Until then, I'm not going to discount his vastly understated Icarus+Lancelot contributions simply because some random guy asserts
a bunch of unsubstantiated rumours to troll others into providing information when he could just ask.
midnightmagic: Moving on, if and when there is in fact evidence that ngzhang is acting unethically (I do not view
a price increase on its own as unethical) I will be happy to eat my own words.
mircea_popescu: actually, if bfl delivering weren't such
a moot point, i'd be collecting these rights as we speak and sueingthem into oblivion anyway
midnightmagic: kakobrekla: I have
a problem with the quoting mircea does. It's illegal.
mircea_popescu: point 3 : any capital transfer with
a view of
a common enterprise is an equity buy, entitling the payer to
a stake in the common enterprise, as agreed
midnightmagic: kakobrekla: I am aware that this channel was made
a publically-logged channel (but not in the topic) as
a top-down directive because you are in the #bitcoin-* namespace.
mircea_popescu: point 2 : any purchase may only be entertained by
a seller of an existant item. nobody can sell what they don't own.
mircea_popescu: so for instance if you pay
a girl five dollars to feel her underwear and she sucks your cock while you do it
mircea_popescu: any capital exchange will be for consideration. the nature of this consideration is not the empire of the parties, but
a matter of fact.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire pre miningargument is
a waste of time. i said "
a little", you so far are making
a case it's not
a lot, maybe it;'s not
a lot.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic there was
a one thing doingmore than asic at some point.
midnightmagic: I posit an alternate explanation: they purchased or had available the case metal prior to assembly, sitting in
a supply bay somewhere.
pigeons: no, go to the factory, take something off the line put it in
a box for 2.5 days, then run your finger over it
mircea_popescu: pigeons yes, but i consider that
a sidepoint of little importance
pigeons: they said give us X we give you
a prduct
mircea_popescu: this "you've financed our corp so here's
a complimentary biscuit" doesn't really cut it.
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: Someone's making money, money is king, except when you don't directly benefit. Then you suddenly grow
a conscience?
midnightmagic: After 900 units,
a giant and sudden price spike, and the fact they honour trade-ins from previous customers? How shockingly unethical </sarcasm>
midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: If that is, indeed, what he's done, that sucks. I don't see any evidence for them mining their own hardware (difficulty spiked only on delivery as per users self-reporting,) but then you tend to jump to conclusions
a lot (as per your assertion that gmaxwell wanted to steal rich peoples' money, because you didn't grok multisig, for example,) so why let the lack of facts get in the way this time?
mircea_popescu: well pigeons, something like this basically : "Avalon took interest-free fiat-denominated loans from silly white westerner peoples, built their rigs, used them to mine
a little (as people were reporting dust inside their units upon delivery) and eventually decided to not deliver at all anymore, just keep the miners and mine for themselves."
mircea_popescu: so you still view him as "one of the most ethical businesspeople I’ve seen in
a long time" ?
midnightmagic: Or is it that when someone else makes money, you have
a problem with that?
midnightmagic: I don't really care that he's upped the price. With
a machine that pays for itself in less than 5 days (with luck) why would he not?
mircea_popescu: because his devilish little plan was to get
a bunch of people to vouch for him.