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mod6: haha, what you hear
the bell and you mentally
think 'food' and you see food dish and
think 'bell' ?
mod6: 'keyring' is alf's pavlovian
trigger
phf: trinque: because gpg --verify is not intended
to be used in batch process, if you're doing verification specifically should be using gpgv, which also expects env (keys in dbs specifically)
to be in a certain state
trinque: I was horrified
to discover yesterday
that gpg does not exit nonzero when a sig doesn't verify
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 20:48:53; asciilifeform: (but decided
that
this was retarded)
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 20:48:01; mod6: I like
the idea
though. We just don't have
the
tools yet.
mod6: but since you're writing one... you could wrap
that in
there perhaps?
mod6: asciilifeform: if
the various bits for hands/eyes/heart/brain are not
to be in anyway invovled with a signature, any
thoughts on how we pass
these around with
the signature?
mod6: I like
the idea
though. We just don't have
the
tools yet.
☟︎ mod6: this is all implementation and
theory.
mod6: phf: well, other
than saying "interesting" and "cool", i couldn't figure out how
to do
that either. unless we create a vtron signature style in 'g' or is it 'p'? i cant recall.. cause how will someones vtron be able
to pull
the bit string out
to know how
to categorize someones seal?
phf: asciilifeform: but what i'd like
to know is why none of you lot commented. << i'm not groking how
that's supposed
to work with gpg signatures
mod6: you've been over
this a hundred
times im sure.
mod6: -connect is great for getting blocks from a
trusted node, but you're only connected
to just
that node. so if
there is some sort of blocking issue... you might get starved.
mod6: once fully sync'd pete_dushenski, make a back up your your block chain, and
then use -addnode
mod6: is it crazy
to
think
that said chip you're
talking about be re-constructed on a fpga, perhaps many of
them on one fpga?
mod6: so i/o drivers need
to be written by hand alf?
mod6: pete_dushenski: i didn't see anything crazy in
there. runnign with -connect or -addnode?
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform:
the weirder
thing is
that
the stuck node is on
the physical box i have, not either of
the
two vpses i have. and all are running 99997k or 99996k.
mod6: i
think i need
to start doing all of my computing with paper and pencil, in a room with no doors, no windows or lights.
mod6: ya.
this hardware scares
the bahjeesus out of me.
mod6: we've got a lot of stuff
to fabricate and create.
mod6: asciilifeform: hm. im misremembering something. eitherway, outside of well, anywhere really, i can't
think of a single place in
the known universe where
the nsa can't diddle your shit.
mod6: now i gotta dig something up on
trilema.
thought
there was an article?
mod6: ook anyway, one
time pad - i can create with dice no?
mod6: other
than some otp
mod6: But my good man, a serious cornerstone / building block
to sanity and in
the direction of "workable" computer will come when your work is complete and I can get quality random numbers.
davout: asciilifeform: with
tmsr~ spanning a few
timezones,
there's bound
to always be someone with an open bottle
mod6: anyway,
that looks like an interesting novel.
mod6: who's
to say anyone is anyone when P & Q are fingerfucked by
the NSA or other spooks.
mod6: who's
to say what is anything
mod6: I
think if people can make punishment first,
they will. cause no == yes && yes == anal.
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 19:50:15; mircea_popescu: and it is cheaper for
this group
to put forth an ideology
than
to do any actual investigative work
mod6: <+asciilifeform>
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-03-2016#1437337 <<
the way i see it,
the 'punishment' aspect of vtronics is secondary.
the main
thing is
that ACTUAL PEOPLE, i.e. folks willing
to ~take responsibility for
their actions~, could find and recognize each other. << i
think so
too. but
the road
to hell is paved with good intentions.
☝︎ mod6: maybe having different keys (key certifing "i read
this" [eyes] / "I wrote
this" [hands] / ... etc.) is an analog for
the polyphase system
that replaced it.
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 19:50:15; mircea_popescu: and it is cheaper for
this group
to put forth an ideology
than
to do any actual investigative work
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 19:49:37; mircea_popescu: yeah, sure, not a difficult one for as long as one lives on imaginary half mil a year and
theorizes away. in practice, it will not be seen, nor has it.
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2016 19:48:46; mircea_popescu: and, importantly, if it WERE
to fail, how would we resolve
the problem if it is or it isn't your fault.
mircea_popescu: not like
the actual malibu dwellers are coerced
to live in
the vinyl sidings abominations. meeting of
the minds.
mircea_popescu: the one problematic part is
that stilts or no stilts,
the product is actually very well adapted
to
the market it serves.
mod6: its like a house in malibu, built on stilts, on
the side of a hill
that mud slides after .25" of rain.
mod6: anyway, sorry for
the rant. but it is not lost on me how hosed up "computer land" is
these days.
mod6: is
the 6502
those cocaine looking packages you got?
mod6: but until we all have shit
that doesn't suck... we're kinda just waiting until it doens't suck. in
the context of blame and "i don't have
to /hope/
this
thing works, I know mod6 said it does, ergo, it works."
mod6: well, maybe alf is farther along on
this journey
than anyone had
thought. and maybe "sucks" is only very
temporary.
mod6: we can't have real
true responsibiltiy of code ownership.
mod6: until we have computers, and i mean "have computers" in
the sense
that alf would be happy
to say he has a "comptuer", whatever
that means.