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asciilifeform: to be delivered by next tuesday.
asciilifeform: closing at the cost of tearing a new (qm / gr) gash
mircea_popescu: "healing" that is easy enough to do.
mircea_popescu: that wasn't a wound, it was on the contrary, the closing of a gap
asciilifeform: which is to say, we find ways to live with the wound
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 15:37:30; mircea_popescu: the result is that your dream diverges from reality by that much, and it's not clear breaches OF THAT NATURE can ever be healed.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1438750 << they are healed the way the demolition of newtonian mechanics was 'healed' ☝︎
asciilifeform: my terminal is bodged, 1sec
mircea_popescu: say that again with less it s
asciilifeform: the tragedy was precisely in the circumstances which produced the scalpel hand. not in who will be cut, that is secondary.
asciilifeform: but it will cut how it wants, and it not mathematically deterministic/predictable, and will answer to no one.
mircea_popescu: the result is that your dream diverges from reality by that much, and it's not clear breaches OF THAT NATURE can ever be healed. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the cold truth of the matter being, of course, that bitcoin's an imponerable that obviously can't be cut. but when you, the sleeping butterfly that dreams himself lao tzi, in your dream believe to have cut into it,
mircea_popescu: what if i come to the kitchen one morning and discover girl cooking burned... the color blue.
mircea_popescu: his scalpel is to cut in the corporation, not in the fucking world.
asciilifeform: that is why there is no happy ending to this tale.
asciilifeform: when there is a fella with a scalpel, you ~already~ made a small visa.
mircea_popescu: if you're going to drop the bitcoin scalar in favour of a bitcoin-justice vector, there is really no fucking point to even bother, just visa.
asciilifeform: when there is a colour - there is one.
asciilifeform: and if there is a colour, i point to it.
asciilifeform: i was not the one who printed the tx...
asciilifeform: at least after mircea_popescu made public the tx ids.
asciilifeform: is that the folks who kept the coin LEANED-on-the-group.
asciilifeform: the way i see it, and again i feel quite fortunate not to be stuck with the scalpel,
mircea_popescu: truly, communism was built in the roman islae.
mircea_popescu: lol trinque
asciilifeform still grunting his way through log
mircea_popescu: which is how solrodar's slavegirl exchange ended up rebuffed. da fuck do i care to import some group bs.
mircea_popescu: now that is very much how i conceive hte notion.
asciilifeform: the fundamental 'communist' act is to ~lean on the group~
mircea_popescu: remarkably, i had found this in the states, you know, people from the generation that "anti american activities", ie, still had a fighting bone in their body, WOULD engage in this patently insane behaviour.
asciilifeform: not the roulette, i mean
mircea_popescu: but this is utter nonsense!
asciilifeform: see also the proverbial 'ты умри сегодня а я завтра'.
asciilifeform: and every living thing is in its heart, on a bad day, 'communist'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc the christians called it 'sloth'
trinque: I think this apt building is communist for having shut off my water today to fix some pipes elsewhere in the building.
mircea_popescu: is the man who doesn't drive across town to buy milk a dime a gallon cheaper a communist ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform would you say a man is a communist who goes to the casino every weekend and plays either blackjack or roulette as he feels like it that day, because really, the house edge is not the same ?
mircea_popescu: not that i know anyone not guilty of it, heck, it's my cardinal sin i'm discovering.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform again - attempting to interpose yourself between the perceptibles and sophia is a very expensive and ultimately self destructive desire.
mircea_popescu: to put the matter bluntly : is it communism to round ?
asciilifeform: but the bettors who kept their windfall and then whined about being 'cheated', they are plainly scum and the wrath of ragnarok is theirs to be suffered ~first~ by any reasonable justice, imho.
mircea_popescu: is it communism if you have two hammers with slightly different utilities that you use indiferently ?
asciilifeform: again, this is far from my planet, i cannot rightfully propose to judge the sultan.
mircea_popescu: (and the mythical rashid that wasn't - did do this.)
mircea_popescu: but note that the sultan was an idiot.
asciilifeform: note that sultan did not do this..
mircea_popescu: seems to me that if you have nine girls and one penis, fucking each ~weekly is not in any sense communism, but just as you say, good ol' agreement & conjugal peace.
mircea_popescu: atm i can't see that it is and dunno how to completely argue it isn't.
asciilifeform: but it is not my place to tell mircea_popescu (or davout , who in this case is holding the scalpel ) exactly how.
mircea_popescu: no, that's how you dispose of the MATTER once you disposed of the communism charge on the side of "yep, s oit is"
asciilifeform: you do it by picking up the sword and saying 'eh no you buggers ain't equal'
mircea_popescu: but the problem remains, i have nfi how to dispose of the communism charge in that place.
mircea_popescu: why thank you.
asciilifeform: many times.
asciilifeform: that he DID this.
asciilifeform: take a stand. it is one of the things i always appreciated about mircea_popescu !11
asciilifeform: but you PUSH the pencil.
asciilifeform: in the end, only sure when you hear the splat.
mircea_popescu: so then how do you discern when another's crossed the pole, which practically speaking is an event horizon ?
mircea_popescu: well, it tends to become.
asciilifeform: i suppose i am then a soldier.
mircea_popescu: a flattering view, in its innocent purity, but not how practice ever works that i've seen
asciilifeform: being a lord, as i see it, is not about balancing pencils on their points, but pushing the pencil in your CHOSEN direction and ~standing by~ the decision for the rest of your life.
asciilifeform: straddling the asymptote.
mircea_popescu: so how are you going to be a lord ?
asciilifeform: this is not a question having a useful answer though.
asciilifeform: what's the threshhold for jumping off cliff ? is it when you splat? when you're in freefall? when you stop the car? when brushing your teeth that morning, thinking 'cliff..' ???
mircea_popescu: so what's the threshold ?
asciilifeform: if we seal ourselves in a cave and take turns eating own limbs, THEN - yes.
asciilifeform: for the evening.
mircea_popescu: in short, yes, i suspect your take on communism may actually require alienation outright.
mircea_popescu: but you're unequals that pretend to equality ?
asciilifeform: nah, that's just good ol'fashioned agreement.
mircea_popescu: if you go eating together, is it communism if you go wherever you all agree to go ?
mircea_popescu: do you have two friends ?
asciilifeform: i know more about the bacteria that live on the bottom of the sea.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i do not rightfully have a firm enough grip on harem to answer.
mircea_popescu: i think this angle is interesting and should be pursued. so asciilifeform : do you suppose that the harem is intrinsically communist, if and in that the women are equals ?
asciilifeform: the dekulakization phase, and the steady state
asciilifeform: they are separable in the strict sense where the thermodynamics has two phases
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: well these are connected, no ?
asciilifeform: the bettors are ~not~ all identical in their misfortune.
mircea_popescu: so really equalitarianism ? not, "from each according to his wallet, to each according to his needs" sorta thing ?
asciilifeform: pretending that unequals are equals.
mircea_popescu: can you elaborate on this communism identification, cuz i dun see it ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1438635 << one of the ways we get komyooonisms is that 'divide it all among the scum equally' is 'THE SIMPLEST' algo in the world. ☝︎
asciilifeform: like it fell upon the scum
asciilifeform: it is even possible that coin will fall from the sky into the right addr and make it moot...
mircea_popescu: well, it is also possible bitbet sells well and makes the issue moot.
asciilifeform: like car with the wheels off.
asciilifeform: bbet is functioning in what we call in the civilized world 'нештатный режим'
mircea_popescu: there's something to this.
asciilifeform: because the damn thing br0k3.
asciilifeform: they already will get a ??? --> something paid according to some rules they can't know
assbot: Logged on 23-03-2016 14:06:24; mircea_popescu: anyway, take it from a software design perspective. you are proposing to change the stateless parser (bet accepted) -> (bet resolved) -> (bet paid out) into a stateful and undefined (bet accepted) -> (bet resolved) -> (???) -> (some thing paid according to some rules you can't know)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2016#1438527 << i can see this. but we got there already, are already inserted on that stake, regardless of what happens, because the bettors ~will~ get a haircut ☝︎
mircea_popescu: no, your "from my perch, they suck ~equally" is no argument, just color.
mircea_popescu: man and woman also suck equally, one has the children the other doesn't.