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Bugpowder: tiberiusiv: you have zero experience in MPEx securities. I wouldn't be so confident until you get a better sense of the way things work around here
kakobrekla: heres a ticket bitcoin
thestrin1puller: a bubble of unprecedented proportions vs a booming economy soon to be worth billions...
Bugpowder: unbalanced: Unfortunately I don't think running a fund is actually legal
unbalanced: I want a Tesla too so Ifig I have to learn from someone who's doing it.
unbalanced: Oh I thought you closed it out. re: something you said yesterday, I'd pay to have you run my funds just from what I've seen here in a week
Bugpowder: unbalanced: thanks! not a trade till I close the position though :-0 I'll let the vwap get at least $5 higher first.
Namworld: beside, works the other way around. If a refund is request after a price drop, more BTC
Namworld: tiberius... there's more than a 0.99% fee for those converting to USD
kakobrekla: btw is there a european bitpay?
jurov: tiberiusiv, care do a bet on bitbet?
MJR_: which is a new high in this space
MJR_: so you start a payment processer, a gambling site, an exchange...do something
Chaang-Noi: tiberslav is a funny troll
thestrin1puller: bfl is a joke
Bugpowder: I am hearing a lot about what ISN'T good. What IS good.
Bugpowder: anyone had trouble getting over 1 wire a day from fast cash. total >$10l
splnkr: and the world can't even properly discuss climate change; i don't see that they could execute a destruction of the bitcoin network
splnkr: it's good to be mindful of the risk of BTC going poof due to external factors, but I'm not that worried…woudln't it take a concerted, coordinated global effort to bring it all down permanently? I'm not talking 51% attack here
jurov: anyway, all the runners, that's a mass market already
splnkr: ironic, isn't it…Mexicans want USD while a bunch of Americans prefer BTC
jurov: if "the cartels" are using it, then it's clearly more than a small group
ThickAsThieves: then a bunch of graphic design work and print brokering
Chaang-Noi: i quit a year ago...
Namworld: tiberiusiv: what? People often sell a portion of profitable businesses
jurov: tiberiusiv yes and? drug scene in your city has more users that a bank, too
Bugpowder: that's a pretty small %
Bugpowder: its a nascent market
Namworld: Those people are risking their funds for a %
Namworld: The money for options is borrowed from people depositing for a % I believe
Bugpowder: if MPOE survives without a loss this month, it will bounce to 0.00075
Namworld: Use it, it's useful. Better on chrome tho, other browsers tend to drop websocket connection a lot more.
MJR_: hehehe, i decided to take a break from trading too...just lending now
Bugpowder: in btc options, I think it can be a winner
Bugpowder: long term options trading in real financial markets is a loser for the retail investor
Namworld: I've made a lot of put. I've been trying to go short since 30 USD/BTC
jurov: sry, if that "learning" would make me such a zealot like you are... no thanks :)
Namworld: Also, I'm not sure I'm fit for the NYSE. BTC is easier, more movement, larger spread, no competition. It's a good training ground at least.
jurov: thanks to people like you that scream OMG ITS A SCAM
jurov: tiberiusiv, on NYSE if you figure out a strategy, there is 100ppl with same idea already
jurov: it's not a problem to at all have such earnings from btc options
Namworld: I suspect it's because I keep it at a fraction of my total worth and that I'm spread out among various exchanges and businesse types. Things could fail spectacularly and I'd still be able to repay all my debt. People like that.
Namworld: I keep my debt at a fraction of my outstanding loan so it can mitigate the risk of something failing.
MJR_: btc bond is a great investment
Namworld: shares, a whole lot of them
MJR_: that is a bit scary
MJR_: because one time during the flash crash i got filled on a bunch of calls
MJR_: not sure, but i think so...i exercised from my cell phone as i was walking into a meeting
MJR_: is it a sure thing that we will not be seeing any dividends this month?
Namworld: Bugpowder: neat. Gains on a significant amount of BTC?
Bugpowder: Anyway.... watch the gox bids. I think it may be a leading indicator of corrections
Bugpowder: I sold off my calls for a 3x gain. Rebought at the bottom.
Namworld: another BitVPS client which paid with a stolen Paypal account.
Bugpowder: I don't think there will be a correction before friday
Schadenfreude: Meh, I already sign with a BTC-adress to withdraw from CoinBR, it's a bit annoying
Bugpowder: a proxy for the amount of money sittingn in gox accounts
gribble: Error: "tocler" is not a valid command.
Diablo-D3: get a brian moran
Chaang-Noi: using paypal? might be a good idea? hahahahha
Bowjob: still not sure if its a good idea or not
Chaang-Noi: we all know he is a made up guy
Chaang-Noi: got to india, saw a line of elephants and was like... ummm, lets go home
Chaang-Noi: im a history dude way more than anything else:)
Diablo-D3: one of the 12 kinds of chinese seems to be descended by a bunch of romans that followed the silk road the whole way dow
Chaang-Noi: d3 lol no, there is a group in afghan/packastian/india that came from alaxander the great when he came down 2500 eyars ago
bgupta: "The Romani are an ethnic group living mostly in Europe, who have been traced genetically to a group migrating from the northwestern Indian Subcontinent about 1,500 years ago."
Diablo-D3: jurov: Ive never seen a "gypsy" that looks indian
Chaang-Noi: i can speak a bit of charakee
Diablo-D3: jurov: speaking indian isn't a useful description
jurov: cuz i'm registered entrepreneur (even VAT registered). so they have a right to look into my accts anytime
jurov: were you eating at restaurants? cuz slovaks don't give a shit about services
Diablo-D3: another person who thinks gypsy is a race and not a mythological creature
jurov: and in recent decades they breed much faster than "whites"... so slovakia will prolly become a gypsy country soon
jurov: my business is legit, i don't have a problem providing id to bitcoin-central and cashing out at price consistently few euros above market
Namworld: No, I disagree with a lot of what you say so...
Namworld: If they want to avoid linking a bank account...
jurov: tiberiusiv now *this* needs a link
bgupta: of you are talking darknet.. I think a good side business would be a paper currency moneychanger.
jurov: there IS a bitcoin economy, just it's not so advertised and force fed like real one
Namworld: Every time I put a few BTC on satoshidice, it's been a lost. Just for fun.
Namworld: I'm worried about people putting their life savings/maxing credit into Bitcoins at current prices... right after such a steep rise.
bgupta: I don't have a lot of btc, so my trades can easily be absorbed by the market.
Namworld: SatoshiDice is a sure way to lose
Namworld: Although only a few thousands, nothing I wouldn't have been able to repaid.
Namworld: I actually took a credit to buy BTC at 5 USD/BTC
bgupta: hey, I can't claim to know what btc is gonna do… I have a very small position that I plan to keep in the btc economy..
Namworld: I thought feeding a troll was getting angry/pissed, since it gives a troll's statisfaction?
Bowjob: i think tiber is just a troll
jurov: just don't give a fuck about convicing some kid
bgupta: I suspected that as the price went up they would slowly move some of their holdings into fiat, to be able to buy on any major pullbacks.. (That's what I would do if I was a creator of this currency.)
bgupta: so I had a theory back in the day.. that there are a large amount of coins held by a handful of folks who are acting as guardians of the btc economy…
bgupta: tiberiusiv: depending on who they are, would determine whether that is a good thing or a bad thing.
bgupta: if you are patient.. you should be able to move in and out, without such a spread no?
bgupta: I assumed that by now shorting would have become a regular part of the economy..
bgupta: a lot is becoming clearer.
bgupta: well you have a 50% shot at being right. :)
bgupta: I'm thinking this run of publicity has a bit more legs in it.. however.. not a bad strategy… I sold most ages ago… but kept a few just in case of events like this happening. (fiat woes) It's the same reason I have some gold coins in my safety deposit box.
Bowjob: you can get run over by a bus too tomorrow
bgupta: well.. in traditional markets selling short is selling.. and can stompt out any rallies, if a large enough position is taken.
bgupta: The one question I have is if some large entity, gov't or financial, decided to bet against bitcoin, how effective could they be? I mean are there enough available for loan to really do a big short?