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smickles: nyRednek: i'm looking thru it again, but that doesn't make it illegal to promote gambling
Bugpowder: I cornered the market this morning
mircea_popescu: eyah, well, that may not give you the best perspective i guess.
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, i've been on the receiving end of ill-executed criminal justice efforts
Bugpowder: law I believe
Luke-Jr: nyRednek: so like, if I tell people about other not-DDoSing-Bitcoin gambling sites to use instead of SD, I'm in trouble? :o
Bugpowder: I love how the price keeps going up during this discussion
Luke-Jr: smickles: I doubt anyone cares.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: I'm pretty sure you're the minority anarchist nutcase.
Bugpowder: Luke-Jr I wouldn't say inevitable. but definitely possible
mircea_popescu: i mean the actual, useful thing.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr i don't mean the imaginary bitcoin you jack off to.
mircea_popescu: i think the problem with btc finance is that people have a crazy time curve.
nyRednek: Bugpowder, i mean
Bugpowder: I probably lost more on F.GIGA.ETF then everyone else put together
Namworld: I have a copy
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i imagine he can't now, seeing how he wasn't there at the time and prolly doesn't have a copy.
mircea_popescu: nyRednek i don't think you're at all qualified to discuss the topic.
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, well, what i just saw described is securities fraud...one wouldn't need to find a serpentine lawyer to deal with such
Bugpowder: nyRednek, fiat porfolio performance doesn't look like this, ever. http://i.imgur.com/idoM0.png
mircea_popescu: in the unwarranted hope i'll settle. which i won't, so that's moot.
mircea_popescu: nyRednek only if you could convince some ambulance chaser that i'm really rich enough to take your "case" on %
nyRednek: i think i'm just going to be converting my btc into cash...traditional securities provide better payout and are more...secure
Ukto: nyRednek: I am no longer alone... you use nigh also :~D
Bugpowder: Coulda paid off jurov for that I guess
mircea_popescu: yeah. i guess if nobody sues now they might once (if ?) bfl delivers
Bugpowder: I still haven't claimed my shares
mircea_popescu: actually i imagine the reason nobody actually sued with the rota is that nobody has enough shares that they value enough btc to bother.
mircea_popescu: Namworld i doubt anyone would use the legal system seeing how there's not enough to pay for a lawyer's initial retainer in dispute.
Luke-Jr: "I'll rob a bank. If they don't like it, they can sue."
mircea_popescu: but seriously, i'm all for it, i don't see why this needs the drama attached.
Ukto: oh, i had no meaning whatsoever in that
mircea_popescu: different courts i guess.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: I know they don't care about technicalities
mircea_popescu: i don't care what extra performance he needs, for whatever reason.
mircea_popescu: he hath not sent anything more than i distributed.
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr the promise was i will distribute anything gigavps sends.
Luke-Jr: mircea_popescu: whatever, if you claim there's a mistake in what I said, then explain
Bugpowder: I just follow it closely
mircea_popescu: Luke-Jr i can appreciate he has no other way forward, but that still does exactly nothing for me.
mircea_popescu: i'm just one of the however many people not interested to deal with the newly created contract device.
Luke-Jr: EskimoBob: as I understand it, mircea_popescu created a phony stock to resell GLBSE shares, then forfeited those GLBSE shares for some reason at the expense of all the MPEX phony-stock holder
jcpham: i knew you'd come if i highlighted you
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, true...i was looking, and it's still 0.3% dividend atm
jcpham: oh crap i highlighted him
jcpham: i remember they were 90 days late because i was in #eligius when luke-jr had a dev unit
nyRednek: jurov, stock price is irrelevant to me, btw...i'm looking for divident percentage...and i can't really afford to play with pepsico and ge atm
dub: I want to say there were taking preorders for fpgas in '11
mircea_popescu: like march ? i dunno
jcpham: i wouldn't go out of my way to make introductions with strangers if i thought he was ripping people off
jcpham: but the short story is that i do not believe mircea_popescu to be a scammer
jcpham: or am i wrong
nyRednek: i was only remotely interested in mpex for satoshi dice stock
nyRednek: jcpham, so if i buy stuff, i'll probably go the brokerage route...i can't make heads or tails of the main site
jcpham: i sit in this channel for a reason though
jcpham: the real truth is that i'm an independent third party in this matter
jcpham: i'll be rich i tell you
mircea_popescu: dub i pay jcpham regularly
nyRednek: EskimoBob, i actually trust jcpham's opinion, considering his activity in OTC
jcpham: did i just get called a shill
jcpham: i lose track
jcpham: time is the only indicator i have as a metric for scams
jcpham: nyRednek i see your point
nyRednek: or just dump any securities i have that may be anyway linked with that exchange, considering that the site looks like it's run as a scam
jcpham: don't get me wrong i'd like a pretty mpex
Bugpowder_: Still haven't got all the shares back I dumped
jcpham: i think the brokerage avenue solves the issue of ui nicely
nyRednek: because i'm a potential customer, maybe? because i'm not going to spend a dime buying stocks on a site that looks like it was thrown together in one's sleep?
nyRednek: mircea_popescu, i still recommend you pay someone to make it useable
mircea_popescu: i can appreicate that. but it's been in business for a while you realise.
mircea_popescu: i think you're a little late to that party.
mircea_popescu: i think rg was living off of it
mircea_popescu: but i don't think it's really the exchange's job to do that sort of filtering.
mircea_popescu: dub i agree it's a tough racket.
mircea_popescu: bah i mean Bugpowder
mircea_popescu: but yes, i am creating the solutions, just, it's a little slow.
dub: personally I wouldnt touch a vps/hosting startup with EskimoBob's
mircea_popescu: i agree.
jcpham: i never actually used the word imaginary...
mircea_popescu: the problem here is that you never really know what to do. i mean, if you insta-wipe any company that's late with divs/misses a report date you will end up causing a lot of grief for legitimate shareholders
Bugpowder: maybe I should move to the bluechips
jcpham: i mean i get it that you want it to be
Bugpowder: I ment the 09-12-12 divvy
jcpham: i do not know the particulars but it does no one is doing the accounting
Bugpowder: I new something was wrong when they delayed the divvy
mircea_popescu: i honestly thought that the listing is probably bvps' largest asset. there is such a thing as a reverse ipo for instance.
jcpham: i mentioned it some time ago
mircea_popescu: jurov i don't imagine they really groked the complexities of running a public company going in
jcpham: i see
jurov: i seriously suspect they're completely inept in this
jurov: namworld came here only after i got to #bitvps and told them their PR is fail
jcpham: although contractually i'd say they have none
mircea_popescu: <jcpham> i'm glad you are taking care of it Namworld << to his credit he did buy a bunch of shares while they were trying to acquire.
gigavps: dub i wouldn't give micon so much credit
dub: ah the age old classic 'i know you are you said you are' touche
dub: I think possibly alcoholic eskimo
Namworld: eh, but I like S.DICE
Namworld: I'll make an announcement for now.
Namworld: I'll have to discuss*
Namworld: I'll have to be discuss with arij & phungus