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jcpham: i know 4 other people who can do the same
jcpham: well i'd get 113 BTC
mircea_popescu: do you plan to answer or should i just drop it ?
pigeons: i dont know
pigeons: i would have charged you more than 140 if i could have
jcpham: as i understand it: each case will have at least 20 btc in fess paid
mircea_popescu: i thought i answered, but again :
pigeons: i dont know mircea_popescu that isnt clear to me
mircea_popescu: am i out 3 btc for each 100 you send ?
dub: I see
dub: next rota case, should I have cornflakes or museli for breakfast
pigeons: i am very upset this was a rota case
dub: I think you caused this by using the rota for something so trivial tbh
jcpham: the only thing i can possibly imagine that we did wrong was split the fees incorrectly
mircea_popescu: and i don't push dead sells.
mircea_popescu: if we don't believe either of those it's a dead sell, no matter how hard i push it
mircea_popescu: pigeons if it made a reasonable decision it might have i nthe future had more important stuff brought before it.
jcpham: i can't see how it can be a loss
dub: I think this is actually a win for mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: next time someone tries that i'll just ignore it and that's the end of that story.
pigeons: i thought mircea_popescu's submission was an offer to settle without going through this, but when i spoke with him he said no
mircea_popescu: no, actually, i wouldn't have paid the guy.
pigeons: i didnt mind the keep your money policy too much but he made him bring this case, and no way i can find that it is reasonable in this instance
jcpham: i'm much more firm in my decison
jcpham: now that i know discussion came before the rota case
pigeons: jurov: i asked mircea_popescu
jcpham: now i know that i need to interrogate everyone
dub: I don;t understand how it went from trying to help the guy to rota
jcpham: i'm not discussing this anymore
jcpham: i see
jcpham: i assumed that he DID NOT
mircea_popescu: i was considering relaxing it.
dub: mircea_popescu: I don't understand how the rota could change that, its your policy
mircea_popescu: it failed to work, so i'm going back to what historically worked very well.
mircea_popescu: i was considering changing this policy, via the rota.
mircea_popescu: but i'm not happy with how it works, so i won't do it in the future.
mircea_popescu: i was considering doing that, yes.
pigeons: i know it says dont fuck up your deposits, and im careful cause i know mircea_popescu will keep it, but if he's gonna use this to try to push his rota, well fact is it is a breach of fiduciary duty it is totally reasonable to fix this when shown proof
mircea_popescu: pigeons the reason nobody was using it was (i understand now) the justified fear that people are not equipped to judge.
jcpham: but i see now it is not negligble at al
pigeons: i wanted to include that i thought the rota was a good idea and didnt expect mircea_popescu would pt barnum it
mircea_popescu: pigeons i should have credited the dude w/o the hassle ?
jcpham: FWIW i 'm not seeing any volunteers
jcpham: i'm not feeling mad, I'm feeling as if I disappointed someone
pigeons: http://trilema.com/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/
jcpham: i mean, I don't like the format myself
jcpham: if i'm not allowed to change anything
mod6: i really thought the court was a great idea, actually. now i just see that we don't have the foresight/legal wisdom to carry it out
pigeons: yeah i wanted punititve damages against mircea_popescu for wasting our time, using the rota as a promotion, and forcing customers to sue him just to get typical service
mircea_popescu: somehow i just never foresaw this one.
mircea_popescu: <mod6> otherwise this just creates way more problems then it solves << i am grasped by sudden terror at the realisation of that, yes.
jurov: jcpham, do ask, i'm curious. maybe the overhead includes doing something interesting with the bitches
jcpham: hopefully I won'r be nominated anymore because i'm just insane
mircea_popescu: ya, but i'll send all complainants to haunt you
jcpham: fwiw i started to penalize you both equally
mircea_popescu: right. cause the bank won't do the insane sort of shit i do
jurov: i doubt if i'd get anything if we sued
jurov: whatever. i was organizing international summercamp, bank asked us the fee to sort out payments with incomplete info
jcpham: i suppose it is too late now
jcpham: i think mre preparation or organization is required
mircea_popescu: i guess it at least proves they be independent ninnies.
jcpham: if you send me a bill for your losses i can make payments until you recover fully
jcpham: that's just me i'm speaking for
mircea_popescu: you just allocated the cost of fucking up to me, and i'm not the one who fucked up.
jcpham: i'd also be willing to forego payment to make the situation "correct"
mircea_popescu: jcpham pigeons i hope you realise the net result of this will simply be me putting it in the faq that i will keep all misrouted funds and fu.
mircea_popescu: i will personally impregnate a billionty womenz to win this bet.
dub: I have a good one, by 2050 there will be less than half as many humans as today
mircea_popescu: because i made it
dub: I AM THE ONLY SELFISH ONE< YOU WILL DIE NOW
jcpham: i am the only one
jcpham: much more so now that i have a fmily
jcpham: i agree that i am an entirely selfish human
jcpham: i somewhat agree with it
mircea_popescu: jcpham i doubt mpoe-pr would have much trouble.
jcpham: i'm telling you fresh water futures and clean air
jcpham: i mean death as in people who cannot provide for themselves
jurov: i'd get unbelieving stare, perhaps
jurov: anyway, i think when i'd pick random person that lived 60 to 6000 years ago and explained about how oppressive is the modern state i currently live in
jcpham: i admit it
jcpham: yes i am a shit
jcpham: i would probably attempt to dominate my peers or control them
jurov: i'd say yurp built on competition for food and land... when it got unbearable, everyone went to us since it was supposedly much better there
jurov: i don't know 'merica history, dunno how many people were actually violently killed there
jurov: i don't see how the argument relates.. it was not like something completely vital was removed during the '89 revolution
jurov: don't know if it's true but i heard in romania even central heating equipment was stolen in some places
mircea_popescu: i think this is a convenient statal lie, to justify the historically incredible levels of taxation.
mircea_popescu: eh, i doubt that.
jurov: i tried to reconcile that when i thought about the gpg story, but no. people just are dishonorable thieves when they can.
Bugpowder: i don't remember
Bugpowder: I know about the hack and crash
Bugpowder: I started paying attention to btc when it hit $7 the first time
jcpham: i see
jcpham: which might seem greedy but i'll ask it
mircea_popescu: Bugpowder i just go by the reports they publish
mircea_popescu: i call shenanigans
Bugpowder: I estimate Mtgox only makes 100,000 BTC /year
jcpham: i hope you are happy :)
pigeons: EskimoBob: i nominated jcpham because he would be less likely to be viewed as a sock puppet than kako who is a business partner of mp and i know smickles has done deals with him too
jcpham: I believe I need to verify that. thanks