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pizzaman1337: I don't want this whole thing to crash again
jcpham: can i do the queen victoria wave
pigeons: i'm so fair it hurts
jcpham: in any way that i'm aware of
jcpham: i cannot benefit from any of this
jurov: i'd rule "let mircea screw them, so they prefer coinbr"
jurov: lol i realized i can't enter rota even if i wanted
pigeons: except i pay you to clean my house topless
jcpham: fwiw i have 0 business relationship with any asset or exchange
jcpham: when i intentiaonally mispelled it
Namworld: Well I wish to use the rota
jcpham: you know i had too google the correct spelling of it
mircea_popescu: hey, you judge the case, i judge your judgement. seems logical neh ?
mircea_popescu: bullshit "claimant is always right and mp is annoying and rich" judgements i don't need a court for, they're a dime a dozen.
mircea_popescu: normally i would have loved to say yes, but under the circumstances i don't see myself signing.
Namworld: I'll try and find the link I guess
Namworld: I don't know. Who's in the rota? How do I start anything?
Namworld: So, can I use the rota for GIGA.ETF...
mircea_popescu: o i see, i skipped over the last yeah
jcpham: i may say fuck it
mircea_popescu: pigeons jcpham http://trilema.com/2013/case-i-wences-vs-mpex-breach-of-fiduciary-duty/#comment-91499
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller when i can afford to be.
markedathome: I think that it does show that the rota needs to have area of jusrisdiction and contracts specifically stated, either in the case, the rota site/faq and in nominating the selection of the judges
mircea_popescu: Jan 05 22:13:53 <mircea_popescu> BUT! FOR SRS! I AM KEEPING ROUNDED SUMS! NOOBS BEWARE!
jcpham: i was peronally aware of the idea of it, yes
mircea_popescu: i thought i had been lol.
jcpham: i think if you go out of your way to make that sentence known
jcpham: i see
jcpham: because i read it then
mircea_popescu: i think you're thinking the old mpoe page faq
jcpham: i have the type of memory where i read things and usually cannot forget them
mircea_popescu: no i just added it now.
jcpham: i new statement
markedathome: I thought it was with two deposits of 130btc and only one order, along with not being able to sign with the originating key.
mircea_popescu: i changed like 3 months ago
jcpham: sorry i didn't know you switched
mircea_popescu: lately i write in english, still ?
jcpham: i'm dependant on google translate
pigeons: i cant read his blog it asks for a fee
jcpham: i suggest a new irc channel for this discussion should it arise again
jcpham: i would like to re-read it if it still there
mircea_popescu: pigeons why would i "settle before the rota" ? what bs is that?
jcpham: I thought you had specifcs, like
markedathome: the /faq.html entry for DEPOSIT{sum} I thought would have had the same text as that of the command (in fact all of the commands should)
mircea_popescu: pigeons i guess so.
pigeons: i knew this was policy, but in this particular case, it was reasonable that mircea_popescu credit the amount showed to have been sent
mircea_popescu: jcpham i quoted it above, grep deposits
jcpham: i'm still looking for the actual wording on MPEX (now)
mircea_popescu: i can clearly see in retrospect how this "obvious" point was only obvious to me.
mircea_popescu: reading the above, i now regred i didn't more clearly stress the supremacy of contract point
jcpham: i would seem that due to the lack of rules, the rota can make all sorts of WILDLY INACCURATE decisions
mircea_popescu: because i was nice and you were stupid, tbh.\
mircea_popescu: i had no such obligation, quite specifically.
jcpham: i can see him not getting his money back
jcpham: but i don't like the winner/loser description
mircea_popescu: i mean, why ? run the risk of purely unilateral sidetaking... to what avail ? makes no sense.
mircea_popescu: but i squarely don't see how anyone would ever consider responding to a case, ever.
jcpham: i think everyone had the best intentions
jcpham: i wouldn't think so either
jcpham: if you relegate me to customer service, I'm going to serve your customers
jcpham: yes but i thought there was wording that said something along the lines of "if it is wrong, you do not get it back"
pigeons: i thought about giving it to mp since he does say he keeps errors, but in law that wont hold up, thats not reasonable
jcpham: because i remember readin it
jcpham: i know it is somewhere
jurov: if i'd have a policy saying to clients "if you make a mistake, screw you" and there's no real reason why it has to be so, it's only reasonable the court would say "screw your policy"
jcpham: i'd like to know where the original wording is.....
dub: I took a guy to court for selling me a boat that leaked, the ruled in his favour because we didnt have anything about it not leaking in a contract
dub: I understand how mircea_popescu feels though
mircea_popescu: well i guess not.
dub: well then the rota wasn't what I and apparently others thought
pigeons: dub: that is exactly how i felt
mircea_popescu: if that actually is the case, i should certainly dissolve it.
jcpham: i see your point, but based on the details of this case
jcpham: i do not agree with that
mircea_popescu: sorta like i'm the government, i guess.
jcpham: the only other option i would've entertained was for both parties to lose
mircea_popescu: i think for everyone else its "o, that thing that couldn't have worked didn't ? o wow."
jurov: <jurov> mircea, so if i mismail the keys, they get to keep the house? is it what you're saying?
mircea_popescu: i doubt it has any relevance to anyone other than the ppl involved tho
mircea_popescu: i dun particularly want to preserve it
jcpham: i think if you want to preserve this in posterity for all to comment on, it needs to be moved elsewhere
pigeons: nope i can only see this one page
jurov: mircea, so if i mail the keys, they get to keep the house? is it what you're saying?
mircea_popescu: what i most of all wonder is,
mircea_popescu: dude i dunno, seriously, mail your house keys to some random address
jurov: oh, so better take everything. i see.
dub: I think the rota did mpex a favour ruling this way
mircea_popescu: i have no choice, obviously.
jurov: mircea i don't understand one thing. why you can't just set a hefty fee for resolving mistakes?
pigeons: i didnt creat e this
Namworld: So... can I use the rota for the unclaimed giga.etf case? =P
mircea_popescu: i guess lol
mod6: i feel like im taking crazy pills
mircea_popescu: i expected the guy to win his 130 btc back.
mircea_popescu: i didn't expect to win dood.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what's gonna be the next one
mircea_popescu: i think this has been discussed to it's demise
pigeons: i asked prior about that inferred agreement and mp said it wasnt what it appeared to us
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, i guess this shows why the random person, even if well meaning, can not be a judge.
mircea_popescu: pigeons i didn't "cause" him to send rounded numbers dood.