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mircea_popescu: <DianaComan> and seeing how
that compares (as results ie money)
to
those of
the other players <<
this'd work if we even had any sort of a valuating function!
mircea_popescu: of course jurov was working at a lisp-based
text version of
teh client.
DianaComan: the bot simply automates
the repetitive
tasks
DianaComan: asciilifeform,
the playing part is a. figuring out what is what and b. crafting your strategy and seeing how
that compares (as results ie money)
to
those of
the other players
mircea_popescu: for instance asciilifeform : last night i loaded up
the 500 abandoned eggs DianaComan sold me, plus some shiny rock shards i had from before, also abandoned birds' nests and disgusting goop, put 500 recipes for flinty
toothpaste in my mind, said /bot craft 500 and went
to bed.
this morning i had like 300 of
the
things.
DianaComan: well,
there is a lot
to be said about intelligent mining/exploring
too for sure
DianaComan: back when I was more hopeful
that I actually have
the
time for at least half
the ideas I had
DianaComan: ah certainly, I even had
that as first idea, ha
mircea_popescu: prolly
the auction/trade part
the fastest approach for
that.
mircea_popescu: DianaComan actually i suppose one could
try and make ai for foxybot
DianaComan: and ftr
there is Birdman who managed
to blow some 10mn using
the bot in one night or so
DianaComan: no, not really because
the bot by itself is basically a dumb robot
DianaComan: there is some very satisfying quality of "it works for me while I SLEEP" component
to it
too
mircea_popescu: i have been playing it continuously for like 5-6 months now. just leave
the bot what
to do.
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder you don't play eulora, for
these reasons.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform compartimentalization is
the best and most fun part of schizophrenia.
phf: in earlier years i wrote a scripting language where processes will go mad after running
too long, i.e. each operation had a correctness probability
that will be logarithmically adjust based on
thread's age. a boolean expression
that returns
true at 1, will return false 30% of
time at .7, etc. i vaguely suspect something like
that was used
to write eulora server
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well... it's an industrial problem, here are your inputs, predict your outputs sorta
thing.
mircea_popescu: for instance : going from q50
to q200 blueprints doubles my output quality, from 132
to 264.
mircea_popescu: it's directly evident
the quality of recipe used ; and
the quality of
the bundle processed are factors.
mircea_popescu: so
the problem
there is : me and her, crafters of different skills, are
trying
to figure out how
the game computes
the output quality of a crafting process.
mircea_popescu: well yes generally folk have all sorts of baked in assumptions about all sorts of
things,
phf: asciilifeform: well, you don't have
to go
to
that extreme, you can just import a symbol from own package and shadow cl:+ but
that's not
to be confused with builtin mechanism of "this function dispatches on many
types"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what exactly is
the meaning of "sum
these
three vectors" even ?
phf: common lisp doesn't let you redefine +, it does have somewhat sane numeric
tower
mircea_popescu: so he means "the
two basic arithmetic operands are polymorphic by
type" rather
than "all mathematical operations are generic functions".
phf: i'm only hoping
they mean
they have proper numeric
tower, rather
then straight up "this plus can be anything"
phf: thing is 8 years ago dylan people were absolutely
trolled at ILC, now apparently it's ok
to have julia
talk as invited
talk. gise gise it's like lisp but with modern mainstream everything
mircea_popescu: "I have recently looked at Julia, a new programming language developed at MIT
that promises
to be a dynamic programming language
that is suitable for scientific computing with a high-performance implementation. "
phf: 9th european lisp symposium,
three invited speakers "Coq, Julia and `complexity of lexical closures`" ffs
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah,
they got another party
to unterrorize
the ipnoHe
mircea_popescu: o hey guise, we're ok
to do all our
terrorism on iphones now ?!
BingoBoingo: phf: It desperately needs a followup addressing
the 20th century evolution of
the
thing and
the obfustication
that was heaped upon it.
BingoBoingo: phf:
Thing was a reaction
the
the civil war and proposed as a solution
to avoiding civil wars while still allowing everything
to appear contentious
BingoBoingo: phf
this social engineering strategy has a long history in USG kingdom. Invented by "St Louis Hegelians" who
then moved
to Harvard and infected USG. Favorite means of USG for getting desired outcome by letting crowd pick
the narrative for how
they got
there.
phf: i wonder if
the whole charade has anything do with growth of iphone adoption in china
phf: i guess
the attempt is
to create controversy on account of everyone being weary of usg syndevs, "look! we have some non-compromised companies"
phf: should be in quotes, a hypothetical jedi mind
trick brought
to you by usg
phf: that is not
the precedent you're looking for
ben_vulpes: have you...turned your computer off and
then on again?
mircea_popescu: the penile anatomy is
that
the foreskin is connected
to
the glans by
this skin fold.
mircea_popescu: at least for
the lower class folk
that dun wear condoms!
mircea_popescu: i don't mean circumcision. i mean
the split
that usually happens in uncircumcised males once
they get into
their own and vigurously fuck a damsel.
mircea_popescu: and so like
the bum living in
the city and benefiting of
the subway even if it couldn't be built on HIS
tax receipts,
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know
the feeling. i drink coffee like i smoke, a pot a month. but i am blessed with
the company of oyung ladies
that are crazy for
the stuff,
phf: i briefly dated a jamaican girl in college whose grandfather had a coffee plantation,
they sold most of it
to roasters but roasted some for artisanal resale. i don't know if
that was necessarily "best" coffee, but
that's certainly not coffee i can forget
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can not buy any desk items lest
they have lasers and no fans!
trinque: asciilifeform: gotta get yourself a french press for
the desk
mircea_popescu: can almost picture a bonbon in a
tiny
tub, rubbing his back with a
tiny brush...
davout: in french we refer
to american coffee as 'jus de chaussettes', aka 'sock juice'