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gribble:
A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 2811151.8105 USD and would take the last price down to 90.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 93.7051 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 12.6458 seconds
smickles: but if you had mpbpt instead, there is at least the possibility of selling when you see
a bad cloud
smickles: that's
a bit of an improvement there
jurov: if i found
a way to improve it, i'd certainly spam it around everywhere :D
smickles: jurov: i don't think mpbor are
a good investment
jurov:
a fund that invests 60% into bonds, 20% into calls, 20% into puts
thestringpuller: My scenario is hypothetical and in
a world where btc services are more developed, vis-
a-vis,
a btc insurance company
jurov: then it's diversification, not
a hedge
thestringpuller: Lets say
a legit BTC insurance company exist using
a reserve-invest model
jurov: insurance usually doesn't deal with 300% increase in
a month...
jurov: so , if you were tahat service, you'll place
a bid at, say, 0.09 (nominal value is 0.1)?
thestringpuller: So provide
a service that buys mpoe bonds essentially at some price if things go bad
dub: also clit use in general is painful without
a scroll button
benkay: sounds like
a waste of time
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu : since mpoe is like "ground" in that option hedges flow to it, one could provide
a second tier of insurance to the bondholders. Essentially cutting up the exposure and selling it off...
thestringpuller: Someone could provide bondholders
a service to hedge their risks
thestringpuller: In order support
a full economy BTC requires 1000-5000 USD per coin
smickles: aw, crap. I'm going to give that
a try now, i suppose
Bugpowder: maybe there could be
a scaling index on the mpex site that you could use to calculate the estimate
smickles: I thought that I had just given up on it when i put in
a 10% wiggle room
smickles: also, this not being able to accurately predict how many puts i'll get out of
a SPLIT is f-ing killing me
jurov: at least i'll have
a reason to annoy mp again if they fizzle out at 0.15 :D
jurov: i believe the aren't diluted so much... but it's quite
a shaky bet
kakobrekla: that aside, how can one man band take
a 3 days off like dat
kakobrekla: >>[16:27] <aethero> Man, all these people thinking I ran off with money. Kinda sad. 3 day outage and I'm
a theif now.
smickles: that's like when they were indexing people's root pw
a while ago, but worse
dub: although deepbutt is no longer
a threat
pgp: I understand, of course - just
a thought experiment...
dub: and yet eligius has over
a Th
mircea_popescu: that's such
a huge breach of bitcoin security i don't even want to consider it.
smickles: if
a sufficient % of the miners agreed to not include it, it wouldn't confirm (odds are) for
a while
pgp: ok - let's assume for
a moment that the txn is valid and like jbork say, just might take sometime to pick up... If they have yet to confirm, couldn't you convievebly beg large mining pools to exclude the txn for
a little while until the "community" could opine on it?
mod6: right, but if they had that set up, that would have been
a clever safeguard
smickles: Bugpowder: or
a sick april fools joke with cleverly malformed txns
mod6: there is
a .1 BTC fee on each of the two tx's: 996b0e98db80b20516313cd32920e7c8093a8a5bf1e1b1887747338a49052ce5 && 4cf56d0c1566778030095925328f4bc7ae988657bd62fe8bc05ac67302d32b4c
jborkl: I had
a transaction get stuck the other day for 12 hours, send from bitcoind ... there was no reason at all
smickles: also, it could be malformed, or made in such
a way that no miners will pick it up, no matter what
pgp: wait
a sec - doesn't the protocol permit the ability to book transactions in the future?
pgp: hot wallet with
a few ice cubes...
mod6: We have detected
a security breach. << this seems to be
a scary thing though - despite it being April 1st.
pgp: but several blocks have been mined since then and not
a single confirmation?
mircea_popescu: either they are mentally retarded and thibnk this is
a fun april 1st thing to do
pgp: are we watching
a robbery in slow motion here or am I missing something?
gribble:
A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 4539004.2120 USD and would take the last price down to 80.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 90.7801 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 73.6644 seconds
gribble:
A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 7681678.7165 USD and would take the last price down to 40.6212 USD, resulting in an average price of 76.8168 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 44.2644 seconds
pgp: $4MM is
a lot of money ...
gribble:
A market order to sell 41854 bitcoins right now would net 3873261.6016 USD and would take the last price down to 84.7522 USD, resulting in an average price of 92.5422 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds
gribble:
A market order to sell 200 bitcoins right now would net 20440.0587 USD and would take the last price down to 102.1210 USD, resulting in an average price of 102.2003 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 13.7545 seconds
mircea_popescu: We have detected
a security breach. Services are temporarily suspended until we have thoroughly investigated the situation. We will resume services as soon as possible.
dub: oh run by forum staff, was
a scam anyway
_aeon: “we are always listening to customers and they were clear, where is your fax access? For some VNC just isn’t performant enough. This new service is
a world first for CloudSigma and the result of six months innovation. Customers can now remotely view their screens from anywhere in the world via fax.
pgp: sucks being
a sith lord...
pgp:
a dash of vision / brilliance never hurts, either...
mircea_popescu: and then finally when 1.0 is released that's after
a spec has been made
pgp:
a lot of crying going on over .8.1 on bitcoin-dev
gribble: You rated user Supa on Thu Mar 28 11:20:54 2013, giving him
a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: I AM RICK JAMES MOTHERFUCKER.
mircea_popescu: so anybody been using the .8.1 exploded ruin of
a codebase packaging at all ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's breaking already. i am blessed with this bizzare trait whereby
a cold stays with me for 6 hours if its really bad
_aeon: i bet his finger is at least in
a butt
guruvan: damn smickles I knew it. Now where am I gonna find
a chum to sell my account to?
smickles: mod6: mpex is
a scam and mircea_popescu is
a greasy fraud
mod6: it's been landing on .0006
a few times in the last number of days
smickles: and I do need to put in
a couple docstrings
mpexbot: mircea_popescu: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives
a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
mircea_popescu: podizzle if you use the stock client there's
a menu to fix tx fee.
podizzle: i dont understand how would i make
a donation if any transfer is counted as
a bet should i make it 1.005 and its assumed the .005 is
a tip?
mircea_popescu:
a small fee to the tune of
a few cents ensures next-block inclusion for pretty much all txs
mircea_popescu: anyway, one measure we're taking is having
a special mod tag on the comments so that mod can clarify how they'll judge statements if need be.
mircea_popescu: therusytrombone if
a statement doesn't please you, why bet ?!
jborkl: still looking , but I am seeing
a bunch not on the blockchain list
podizzle: what about
a bet where i sent money during open betting but is not placed before betting is closed. donation or refund
mircea_popescu: something's not
a scam because it works otherwise than you think it should.
mircea_popescu: if the bet doesn't make it before bet is closed then it's
a donation.
podizzle: mircea_popescu so if the bet isnt made by resolved then it will be
a refund?
mircea_popescu: therusytrombone im sure avalon said something on the forum about
a future batch to be delivered in 2014