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asciilifeform: why does mircea_popescu think i could be an ~average~ dope man, much less a heroic one.
mircea_popescu: the same thing that gets most women knocked up that ever carry to term.
asciilifeform: anyway i don't touch things where i have no leverage.
mircea_popescu: generally it's the very simple "well... here i am".
asciilifeform: no but the correct brand of anticiv.
mircea_popescu: also, gangs aren't exactly intellectual strongholds. by and large they survive by not caring, not by fine-tuning their civ playing strat.
asciilifeform: l0l 'hi i'm totally not a usg stooge though i have no street experience'
mircea_popescu: apply to that.
mircea_popescu: eh, you know enough chemistry to be useful to meth lab.
mircea_popescu: what did you apply to ?
asciilifeform: i tried to get work there, and failed.
asciilifeform: anyway in alls srsness bmore is a glorious place to live imho.
mircea_popescu: i saw the cunts, still same shade of pink.
mircea_popescu: if i can talk to anglos, you can talk to niggers.
phf: i have burner friends with workshops that you literally drive into a fenced off area with barbed wire on top, go inside a heavily reinforced building and work with your 50k equipment in peace
asciilifeform: if you have to ask...
mircea_popescu: five years in you'll prolly want to hold a conference. if not 3.
mircea_popescu: go to baltiomore, start a gang.
mircea_popescu: phf it also happens to be the right thing to do, other than buying bitbet.
phf: if you have any sort of income, you can go to bmore and play believe mp
mircea_popescu: I THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T LIKE ROACHES YO!
mircea_popescu: o wait - turns out alf is actually closer to lafond's dear friends than to the white house ?
asciilifeform: phf: i used to dream of escaping to it.
mircea_popescu: isn't that the bad place ?
mircea_popescu: first off, that's the #1 a city wants t osponsor.
phf: asciilifeform: within 3 hours drive? c'mon. i can find you a workshop within 3 hours drive for less than 500 a month
mircea_popescu: nope. but this is just an argument towards "us is fucking nuts". why the fuck should it cost a lot ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you have ANY idea what it would cost to 'rent a workshop' within 3 hrs of drive from here ?
phf: we've had that conversation before i believe
asciilifeform: <+mircea_popescu> rentals are exactly that : correctly priced, multi-room hotels. << only for a theorist like mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: ideally, they go in the form of renting time from a workshop wtf is this my garage is my workshop artisan thing.
asciilifeform: where should these go? on rental stools in furnished apt ?!
asciilifeform: with things like drill press.
mircea_popescu: rentals are exactly that : correctly priced, multi-room hotels.
asciilifeform: if i wanted to live in a hotel, i would live in a hotel !
asciilifeform: srsly why would i want the motherfucking pressed shitboard rental furniture.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not only books. i have nice desk that holds n displays, etc.
phf: not that i don't, but my burn rate is significantly higher than a random schmuck
phf: it is expensive to live in this country from causes
mircea_popescu: how about never mind teh purposes, stick to the causes!
mircea_popescu: i can't help but think it's a mental issue.
phf: mircea_popescu: idea is that furnished apartment is for a salariman on remote assignment, like amtrak and services like that, assumption is can jack up a price as much as you want
mircea_popescu: phf such a bizarre place you know, they rent last years' car for 2 bux a day, everyone hauls countertops
mircea_popescu: ah right, you're stuck with the mite traps.
phf: that is if you don't lease it yourself from a third party
mircea_popescu: that's ridoinculous. 1k buys you the swhit in a coupla months.
phf: mircea_popescu: hard to get furnished here, i price it out every time, and it's an extra 1k a month almost always
mircea_popescu: so you don't have to haul various pointless ballast ?
mircea_popescu: confirming the age old observation thart socialism works betterf the smaller it is.
asciilifeform: 11:50 <+mircea_popescu> so what's rent like in the cheap suburbs next to umd ? << i pay ~2k (if you count electric, gas, etc) for <1k sq ft.
mircea_popescu: phf actually internet in midwest way better than on the coasts. usually run by township.
asciilifeform: <+phf> i know nhi couple ... but there's literally nothing within 20 minute drive << my parents live in a place like this.
phf: proper way to deal with iowa is buy a house, get your 800$/mo satellite internet (not even checking what's available, why bother), and do your aerospace/banking/medical it consulting work remote
mircea_popescu: so what's rent like in the cheap suburbs next to umd ?
mircea_popescu: i thought it's for dormitory.
asciilifeform: 11:41 <+mircea_popescu> $750 gets you a house in iowa. << aha and iowa shaves a zero off the salary.
asciilifeform: i could not in a million years afford to live in the dc city walls.
asciilifeform: phf: i live in the 'cheap' suburbs next to umd.
phf: having grown up with a dacha, i grok country house/city apartments, but that's not even under consideration for most people here, unless they are boomers, who bought ocean property in the 60s for peanuts
mircea_popescu: well... country house has its place. i'm just not old enough to want one.
phf: but there's literally nothing within 20 minute drive, fields, some new suburbia, that's it
phf: i know nhi couple who own a house in gaithersburg, which is about 40 minute nhi commute (note nhi itself is 30 minutes outside dc center), it's a magnificent place and they put all the toys from their world travels there, englishmen style.
mircea_popescu: (which is not so terrible, even, considering gdp is like 18k pa)
phf: well, right iowa counter example basically loses you all citiness, and you can get that here too
mircea_popescu: you can't possibly convince me that rents can ever exceed ~half the average per capita income
mircea_popescu: i guess you have a solid point there - ba is an oldstyle city, eateries on every corner, etc. good reason for rent to be more than what it can be in industrially produced "suburub".
phf: uber drivers "mang you pay 1500 for yo plaaaas, should move to upper spring heights mang [20 minutes driving from metro, 10 minutes driving from any semblance of food] pay seven hundraaaayd. is cheap!"
mircea_popescu: or w/e, ten 2015 ford focus electric rentals.
mircea_popescu: moreover, you can readily add wi/mn/whatever to the ro/pl/etc list.
phf: right, there are no other redeeming qualities or reasons for why rent in dc should be this high
mircea_popescu: phf and for the same reason as here : us lives off govt dole, so the lice crowd the capitla.
phf: asciilifeform: this is not a particularly interesting exercise, because rent in DC is significantly above what you could be paying anywhere else in the country (except usual suspects, nyc and sf)
mircea_popescu: yeah. you know what they do all day ? bitch importantly about how the bus fare went up a quarter peso.
mircea_popescu: ba is larger than ny. yet another place the us doesn't actually matter all that much.
mircea_popescu: (actually i do have a pretty good idea - they all live off the govt which is here so much like lice they crowd around)
mircea_popescu: no idea wtf is wrong with this particular thirld world nation, but w/e.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's pretty ridiculous, ro/pl/etc rents are about half that, and that's in the eu.
mircea_popescu: i didn't tell you to live there.
mircea_popescu: normal apt thing. two baths two bedrooms, kitchen, living room, appliances including ac.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform perhaps 2/3 that ?
mircea_popescu: lulz of all tim.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, dollar liberalized so it's not going up ; prices soared because they're poor and pretentious.
mircea_popescu: to this very day, it's not there.
mircea_popescu: anywya, it was lulzy, guy wanted 12k pesos ; i offered 750 usd which he took - at the time ~6 mo ago it came to about 11k pesos on the black market and it looked like it will imminently will cross 12 13 15 etc.
mircea_popescu: ah, what you don't know is that there's but different zoos.
asciilifeform: not even here in the zoo, does this make sense
mircea_popescu: no seriously. this is argentinian mind at work.
mircea_popescu: that he wants to unilaterally change teh amounts ?
asciilifeform: what does it mean to 'discuss changing rental contract'
mircea_popescu: no but this is how they think, srsly.
mircea_popescu: this is a derp who wanted contract in dollars to protect self from inflation, got choice of X in pesos or y in dollars, picked y.
mircea_popescu: in other morning lulz : argentinian owner of a rental wants to get together to discuss changing rental contract because "inflation has gone up".
mircea_popescu: i wasn't proposing any such thing ?
asciilifeform: nfi, just pointing out that not everything the schmuck did was a work of evil
mircea_popescu: how's scam enter into this
asciilifeform: Apr 01 10:22:12 <mircea_popescu>god damned it. so half hour's research has produced not the article i was looking for, and the knowledge that decimation actually introduced lafond to the chan. << decimation introduced the thread about atomic clocks also. so cesium clock is a sc4m?!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i was actually trying to figure out what that interest rate point /was/
deedbot-: [Trilema] Outrageous MP's guide to not being a poorfag - http://trilema.com/2016/outrageous-mps-guide-to-not-being-a-poorfag/
phf actually remembers that very log entry
phf: huh, well then. i somehow though people were reading him before the riots