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asciilifeform: in related nyooz, old #b-a now ~entirely dead, kako just tossed out scoopbot...
asciilifeform: 'that precious last round! that i save! for myself!' (tm) (r) ('последний патрон', afgan, transl. mine)
mircea_popescu: eh she's rapemeat. can't even fuck unless someone ties her down first.
asciilifeform: plenty good enough for the job
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i always wonder, why 'someone buy me', a .22 can be had in usa (where i assume this unfortunate creature lives) for < cost of 'ipod'
mircea_popescu: any great people who aren’t pieces of shit. I want to either be ignorantly happy, or fucking just die dude. There’s nothing for me here anymore besides my boyfriend but he’ll be better off without me. I feel like I just hold him back…My family would be so much happier if I was gone. I’m the reason everyone’s life sucks. Someone buy me a gun…"
mircea_popescu: I kinda just wwant to run away and never come back. Or sleep forever. Or jus die. I’m tired of this shit. I feel so drained. I Can’t do this life thing anymore. It’s too hard and I’m not strong enough for this. I wasn’t meant to be here. I wasn’t meant for this. I’m so tired of faking a smile every damn day of my life. I’m tired of dealing with the horrible people of this world cause honestly? I don’t know m
mircea_popescu: in other "us will totally defeat isis" news, "Drained
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and who the hell cares re how many 'tweets' wtf << girls.
asciilifeform: and speaking of other enigmas, did we ever learn what the 200 btc in http://fr.anco.is/2016/bitbet-receivership-first-progress-report were ?
ben_vulpes: submitted the foundation statement yesterday, i've heard of no resignation
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al : did jurov stop working as trb treasurer , coinbr operator ? i must have missed this ? 'cause i dun see him in the mircea_popescutronic list
asciilifeform: am i the only one here who has never used twatter for anything.
asciilifeform: next we calculate how many sheets of toiler paper trb fits on, etc.
ben_vulpes: surely they're just available for dynamic linking in twitter's global namespace
asciilifeform: and who the hell cares re how many 'tweets' wtf
asciilifeform: where are the sha* functions defined ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that thing isn't self-contained
ben_vulpes: in other news, the keccak reference implementation appears to have been written on a windows machine
ben_vulpes: (i don't know where that errant 'roles' came from)
ben_vulpes: inland i believe they source yeast roles from landwhale folds
mircea_popescu: could build this up to artillery regiment strength.
mircea_popescu: how else to get it out ?
mircea_popescu: here asciilifeform, to make it all good. http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/lolz.jpg
trinque: phf's log viewer looks very nice; if that's not close enough to completion I can put one up on monday.
asciilifeform: i'd sooner spy on a walrus convention (e.g. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/photos/000/842/84293.adapt.768.1.jpg ) than reddit, but that's just me...
asciilifeform: how does mircea_popescu even come across such a turd
asciilifeform: was there context, or the like
mircea_popescu: you don't understand! IMPORTANT THINGS OF IMPORTANCE!
asciilifeform: am i thick or wut
mircea_popescu: hey missus tallygirl, tally my banana!
mircea_popescu: i dunno, perhaps because in the half dozen strong warbands of the middle class juveniles the 2nd is the only ACTUALY hierarchy position ? 1-2-bunch ?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i thought pastes were intrinsically a temporary thing
phf: And distribute those logs to interested parties (like ben_vulpes's paste thing)
phf: But I think there's a useful question of how to reliably reconcile multiple log collectors
phf: My thing will be live Sunday eve
mircea_popescu: incidentally, what's plan/eta with logs ? trinque mike_c phf ?
ben_vulpes: technical note, all wotpastes linked in #trilema will expire in 36 hours. i'll have to work with phf to get something in place to preserve pastes from #trilema.
phf: Oh I'm still voiced, I was going to say, re "modifying live image is just a cool trick", yes it's not substitute for understanding because nothing is, that's what the tom knight koan is about
mircea_popescu: whole argument is circular. "why aren;t these schmucks making anything of themselves ?" "because they didn't have the opportunity" ie, "because they haven't made anything of themselves" "oh i see"
asciilifeform: a thing-one-did-not-have-and-so-now-suck
asciilifeform: somehow it did not occur to me, to do this.
asciilifeform: but sure, i also did not go and ask the squirrels in the part whether their feeding was an abuse
mircea_popescu: yawell, opportunity doth not ask for permission ; either to come or go.
mircea_popescu: and if we ask the ghetto blacks, or the southern whites, or on and on and on.
mircea_popescu: you have the opportunity to start your own gun and cunt trade baltimore operation. factually. except if we ask you.
mircea_popescu: according to whom, themselves ?
mircea_popescu: "oh but they had no opportunities"
mircea_popescu: the ghetto blacks are also not exploited by anybody today.
asciilifeform: and still summed to 0, just as wild cows in india.
asciilifeform: 'it' being not the book, but the historical fact
mircea_popescu: had the southern drunkards have the presence of mind to correctly use the grease, they'd have blown the puritans out of water.
asciilifeform: because they summed to ~0.
asciilifeform: now cash did not go into this, but it is a sort of scathing indictment of the 'if only poor folk were LEFT ALONE!11111 they would FLOWER!11' thing.
mircea_popescu: whereas the north had a very good use for them, even pre war. stalin was no doubt inspired by it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is that part also, yes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: w.j.cash's 'the mind of the south' describes interesting thing: how the p000rwhitez of the old south were in a historically unique position, where the elite ~did not need them for anything~, nor even bothered to hunt for sport, because they took up space that wasn't cotton or tobacco - enabled
shinohai: nice trinque ! Grilling salmon for lunch, will rate upon return :D
mircea_popescu: "do not be poor" being the whole of the law.
mircea_popescu: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3820 << kinda interesting. lot of hay is made about "cruel treatment of black slaves", conveniently eschewing the fact that cruel tratament was - and rightfully so! - reserved for POOR PEOPLE.
trinque: $key trinque
mircea_popescu: it'll be very useful because i use gpg auth for eulora, will just have new players reg and then i can get their key
mircea_popescu: no, the pubkey
trinque: want that to barf the fingerprint?
deedbot: $key trinque is not a command.
mircea_popescu: $key trinque
trinque: hm, need to change those timestamps to something more readable
diana_coman: <trinque> I'm not totally clear on what happened with diana_coman, because I did not remove the old methods. <- I sent the !up apparently before the change and it worked; but then the !v did not work as meanwhile the change was made (or so I gathered)
mircea_popescu: i'd say experience shows i'm not exactly one to hesitate before dubious action when action is required by events.
mircea_popescu: well so far all i want is to discuss things cleanly with phriendz, as you say.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu wants certainties fit for the godz, he'dve stuck to mathematics, no ?
mircea_popescu: yawell, then how is it fit for this discussion here!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: negative to all 3. again, i only ~suspect~. when i pull the parachute cord, i also do not ~know~ that it will open.
trinque: it could've also been that I was running a pubkey import script and it hadn't caught up to her
mircea_popescu: trinque so ambiguity resolves this issue you say ?
trinque: I just added the $up alongside.
trinque: the !up should've still worked, method was still there
mircea_popescu: and by "this" i mean : 1) how do you know thinking steps ahead is possible ; 2) how do you know were it possible you're doing it ; 3) how do you know were it possible and you doing it they weren't.
trinque: I'm not totally clear on what happened with diana_coman, because I did not remove the old methods.
asciilifeform: from the corpse.
asciilifeform: do not know, i never hung out with them... can only conjecture.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and how you know this ?
asciilifeform: and couldn't, or wouldn't, think N steps ahead
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it is very painful. the "unnecessary" item is still being touched here.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in the same sense the easter island folks were dumb
mircea_popescu: right. so the theory of this here reformation is that they were kinda dumb and didn't understand the glory of modernity ?
ben_vulpes: returning to 'boots on the ground', mircea_popescu raises a valid point about changing the interface on users. but the "it should restart on code change to tell users things changed" imposes a very painful, unnecessary constraint on diddling deployed systems.
asciilifeform: the 'why plow the fields'
mircea_popescu: wait, you mean the greeks can't do gt ?
asciilifeform: hey some folks can't do game theory, the gods dropped them as babies, what can i do
mircea_popescu: so say teh ancient scrolls!
mircea_popescu: "why would a healty man work the field - when there's all this booty in gold and ass to be had ? is he mentally deffective ? a coward ?"
mircea_popescu: orly ? ask the greeks.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, "how to be rich" is idem problem solved, by orcs even.
asciilifeform: but yes, guess what, this is a solved problem in 1970s
mircea_popescu: ticks ? the lord of time have mercy on your soul.
asciilifeform: i have not read his thing, my 1st exposure is just a minute ago, authing with it.
mircea_popescu: specifically : i would judge trinque did 10% of the job yet. still has to specific.
mircea_popescu: like that yeah. you have any idea what sort of task this is ?
asciilifeform: as in, on tick t, you get routine r1, on tick t+1, r2.