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jurov: and i personally wait for someone to aptly and comprehensively blog about them

mjr_: yeah, i realy like mpex

mjr_: i agree

Bugpowder: I think the shares are probably safer in MPs machine than in mine :-P

mjr_: but for the coins, i was thinking paper wallet in safe deposit box

mjr_: yeah no big deal, it is the most secure i've seen really

mjr_: i was planning on a paper wallet that i could continue to pour coins into, but would not be connected to anything

mjr_: but i have no issues with shares on mpex or coinbr

mjr_: i am planning on more of a buy and hold approach

mjr_: thanks i will look into it

jurov: btw, i think i left there commented js code to read mpex rss feed... so if anyone wants an example

jurov: then i'm interested

mjr_: i can try other web browsers if that would help

mjr_: i have to do it in the tiny sliver at the top in order to get to inspect element

mjr_: weirdly enough i can't right click on the area where the chart would be

mjr_: yeah i have a sreenshot if you wanna see

mjr_: it's the chart that is not loading so it could be a problem with my handling of svg i guess

mjr_: but if i close the inspect element, it doesn't load

mjr_: could be me, i just did inspect element and it pops up

jurov: mjr_: try sending screenshot, i'll look what else it can be

mjr_: and i have not seen any way to change those settings

mjr_: as far as i can see it just takes mt. gox

mircea_popescu: i thought it was pretty much user configured

mjr_: i really like the layout and design of clarkmoody

mjr_: i think there is some image which doesn't load and it blocks the actual symbols

mjr_: oh yeah i think i have been there but it never renders correctly

mjr_: i have not, i will take a look at it

mjr_: ok maybe a silly question but i don't think it was in the faq (i'll double check) is there a way to see level II info for the stocks?

mod6: But still, people have this kneejerk reaction about PGP. But I'm always like "But PGP is your friend!!"

mod6: I was going to add though, it is great to have a way to submit orders right through the textarea with the submit button. I used to do a lot of orders by hand until I wrote the perl thingy.

mjr_: i see no reason not to just hold it, but you could just get in and out on dividend day]

mjr_: i think its awesome that you can buy shares literally right before the dividend and still get them

mircea_popescu: i was expecting at least some unwind

evoorhees: yeah I don't know why people would wait to buy until after the dividend lol

JohnGalt49ers: I took 6k from him

mircea_popescu: course, since i was gonna have to pipe orders in somehow

mod6: I mean, it exists as a way for people to go, "Oh hey! It exists!"

mod6: I've never quite understood why people feel so but hurt about the website. I mean, its really just a formality. It doesn't even need a website! lol

mod6: pizzaman1337: yup, i've implemented a way... i started off trying to do some other ways, like a keystore, etc.. but that didn't work out.

mod6: i have a ton of work done already for an Android version. its called BitOTTer... http://www.bitotter.com

mod6: one thing im gonna work on today is wrapping up json stat stuff. but then i gotta get that encryption stuff wrapped up.

mircea_popescu: smickles i think racist is what pinkos call people who call them pinkos

smickles: hmm, i don't recall that article being much about race

mircea_popescu: maximian i think a few people

maximian: "oh my god, MPEx is the geekiest stock exchange I've ever seen. you have to send commands via command line? no web interface?" << this is actually what attracted me to mpex!

JohnGalt49ers: yeah that's more sophisticated then what I had in mind

smickles: i think this is what i was talking about https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts#Example_7:_Rapidly-adjusted_.28micro.29payments_to_a_pre-determined_party

mircea_popescu: it's funny tho, why am i an asshole

smickles: JohnGalt49ers: like via private key transfer? (what I was talking about is more complicated, and a lot more secure than that. I'll see if i can find the link)

smickles: it's only been done as 'proof of work', so far as i know tho

mjr_: i think that is also very true

mjr_: thanks smickles, i thought that was a very nice response

mjr_: ah i had one other question/issue that i wanted to throw out here

mjr_: well that is what i love about this community, very grass roots

mircea_popescu: i didn't get that last q.

mircea_popescu: but there's a BIG lesson in here. think about it : i have technoklogy that allows me to do what they do much cheaper.

mircea_popescu: yeah. this would not be feasible if i tried to do it like it;'s currently done in the fiat finance world.

mircea_popescu: i think so too.

mjr_: i think it is a clean and very secure system

mircea_popescu: but i don't see many people bothering, no. there's no benefit

mjr_: well that is what i meant...what if he doesn't pass on the messsage?

mircea_popescu: so now. if i want to talk to all the users on mpex, i could just post a long file, made out of bits, each encrypted with a user's signature.

mjr_: and i took a look

mircea_popescu: mjr_ : if i wanted it to take multiple hops, i would be vulnerable to MitM and phishing right? << wrong

mjr_: is this how VPN would work too? unless i'm mistaken, i believe a VPN is encrypted (or can be)

mjr_: because only you can make sense of the message, since the message is encrypted...or am i mixing up my OSI model here :)

mjr_: mirceau_popescu: upon furthor thought, i think that what you have set up IS the equivalent of a circuit...ie. you can verify communication between you and someone else, but i don't think it could work as a broadcast type message (i may be wrong) if i wanted it to take multiple hops, i would be vulnerable to MitM and phishing right?

mjr_: oh by the way...i found the url to the site that i want to get to start taking bitcoins...

mjr_: oh ok, i was going to say, i don't see the real point of an etf at the moment

smickles: or 'i don't understand why you use gpg'

mjr_: ok, i missed that discussion

mjr_: maybe chats i missed here, but i would say he has the equivalent of AAA credit within bitcoin

mjr_: that i've read on a forum

mjr_: the closest i ever read was sock puppet on SA..but that wasn't even really saying anything bad

smickles: < mjr_> like for example...i don't think i have ever read one negative article about mpex or mirceau_popescu <<< lolwut?

mjr_: so i would say most people would trust him

smickles: i think there are a few things which use the m-of-n signature txns, but i've not seen any of the contracts or conditional sends

mjr_: like for example...i don't think i have ever read one negative article about mpex or mirceau_popescu

gesell: i think google is starting to seriously throttle my all my google code since i put the arbitrage spreadsheet on reddit :/

smickles: I'm sure there is/are for relatively small amounts

mircea_popescu: malaimo i have my doubts about that.

mjr_: i think what will have to happen is that you will have to use current practices, but denominate loans in btc

mjr_: Amadeo Giannini i would like to be like this guy

mjr_: well, i really look forward to wider acceptance, and hopefully larger holdings for me...

mjr_: that's what i meant

mjr_: mirceau_popescu: also, I love how you mention NYSE as underdog

mircea_popescu: i like how that thing is getting upvoted into a frenzy

mjr_: even though i think scalping is almost dead

mircea_popescu: but yeah, i lay no claim to genius on the "not instacancellable" part. ffs it's beyond obvious.

mjr_: total bs, and i don't know how you would do that

mircea_popescu: i mean... oral sex seems the HARD THING,

mjr_: i was going to ask about speed of executions...

mjr_: and i think you are doing things the Right Way

mjr_: i agree completely that encryption is vital

mjr_: yes, i just mean that typically pgp is not the easiest thing for most people

mircea_popescu: i would expect that encryption stays with the person.

mircea_popescu: and i say it's the Right Thing.

mircea_popescu: everyone is currently doing the former. i am doing the later

mjr_: kinda...i think it is mostly for reliabilty and just plain access

mjr_: just curious, because most big markets and banks do that...so i don't know how phishing can interfere in those cases, obviously customer on online banking website is vulnerable