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ThickAsThieves: Signs that you know you made a bad btc deal,1. You start rationalizing in fiat
bowjob: "Do not send BTC after betting has closed. Any BTC sent to addresses allocated to a bet after betting has closed will be kept by BitBet and distributed to shareholders as dividends. "
mircea_popescu: now that's a distinct possibility.
bgupta: (SOrry took a while to find a non paywall version of article)
bowjob: maybe add a rule that if they try to game the system after an event occurs, the btc shall be kept and distributed to shareholders
unbalanced_: Insaneatyou: that's a good start :)
unbalanced_: To understand the many ways you can lose money with Bitcoin... I could write a book
Insaneatyou: Bugpowder sounds like a quick way to lose my ass
unbalanced_: I read forums for 2 years before piping up here and (as people here can verify) I'm still pretty much a bitcoin idiot.
Bugpowder: your best chance of getting coins is to buy a put, and pray bitcoins crash to $5.
Insaneatyou: MJR_ in a regulated market in fiat I thought writing bots to trade for you was illegal
Bugpowder: although bitcoin is a great place to lear
Bugpowder: ok, well you have got a shitload of reading to do about economics and markets
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: you can do pretty much what you want with BTC without being made to answer for it, if you have half a brain. plenty of people are.
bowjob: this is from a gaming forum
bowjob: someone posted a topic that they;ll invest 100k in btc
Bugpowder: is there a difference?
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: empty your penny jar, and buy one bitcoin. write a trading bot and see if you can turn it into two.
Insaneatyou: To be honest, i dont have any examples. If you have a problem, hit me with it. I'll give it a shot
mircea_popescu: "Finding a date and/or a job while completely convinced you are a worthless piece of garbage... how do you do it?"
mircea_popescu: i didn't even know there was a ny sun
bgupta: I hate headlines like this that don't have a matching story http://www.nysun.com/national/boom-in-bitcoins-challenges-bernanke-amid-sagging/88262/
mircea_popescu: but can you give an example of such a problem ?
Insaneatyou: I did much math before, but haven't used it in a while, i also used to code some
asciilifeform: Insaneatyou: drum up an exit stampede from BTC, then. so that you (and the rest of us) can load up a bit.
Insaneatyou: I hate people but make a fair to middling salesman
bowjob: nah. i had this classmate knock a girl up when he was in hs. he's not so free these days
mircea_popescu: bgupta may be a good point yes
bgupta: taub: wondering if that ratio thing is a red herring.. and just a natural result of what happens when price goes up.. IE: people don't set out to sell a fixed number of coins, but rather they are selling to raise a certain amount of fiat to pay for bills/toys.. and in btc terms those keep getting cheaper as btc rallies.
MJR_: that was a hilarious thread
MJR_: i mean like a solid base for other people to build an economy around
mircea_popescu: bowjob there were two bets, one had a zeroconf in it and was picked.
mircea_popescu: it's a conundrum i tell ye.
MJR_: which may seem like a lot of cash, but it isn't really in the grand scheme of where they are now
MJR_: and right now everyone is waiting for everyone else to start the business that they can have as a customer, but they won't start it till they have the services they need
mircea_popescu: MJR_ i kept trying to push people towards dfoing a blog, which is a subset of what you say but easier to do (for a geek)
MJR_: I think if someone just read the top stories from reddit, and had a simple feed from this channel on a youtube program, while showing bitcoinity, bitcoincharts, clarkmoody, they could get ad revenue
MJR_: so eventually data services will be a part of that, but for now its trying to get the most bang for the buck
MJR_: (you will redistribute it once you have a certain critical mass anyway)
mircea_popescu: sounds like a good plan.
MJR_: my plan is not to try and woo current customers but rather find a large pool of new customers, expanding the pie rather than redistributing it
bgupta: right my point is in this case, I sense that that a solid site could be built, and it would be useful, and get a lot of traffic, but there doesn't seem to be a market yet of folks iwlling to pay for a paywall service.. and ads can only bring in so much.
MJR_: i think that if you want to talk about eyeballs on a screen, bitcoinity has that...someone should create the CNBC of bitcoin, and basically just do a youtube channel talking about bitcoin related affairs with great market data in the ticker and sidebar.
mircea_popescu: but let him find a boss.
mircea_popescu: granted, a geek might not be mentally capable to turn something useful into something productive.
bgupta: IE: seems a small amount of ad revenue at best.
bgupta: what's the revenue in running a pricing service?
mircea_popescu: the community has to get ity's collective useless ass in a bunch and make a working service.
mircea_popescu: i'm never running a private one.
unbalanced_: I remember reading something about stale info a week or two ago and am just trying to grok it now
unbalanced_: Do the the bots wait X minutes on an outage or do they go straight to n/a
unbalanced_: And when the bots have been blind for X minutes because of a b...charts api crapout, they go to n/a
bgupta: bitcoincharts is a bit flaky atm
bowjob: i guess ill be spoiled with 4 btc a day
gribble: MtGox lag is 3.389127 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00679177256144 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
taub: there's a ton of buying pressure
rikur: just my feed back as a paying customer :)
mircea_popescu: how do you know you're not being social engineered in a case like that ?
jurov: and wasn't able to produce a btc addy even with hint
jurov: oh i already am.. there's a guy who forgot both his coinbr username, password and email
mircea_popescu: maybe bitcoin is a little new to you.
rikur: what a fag site
mircea_popescu: irt's not that "i don;'t fix it". it's that what you're proposing is not a fix, and what i have is.
joeykrim: can you link to last month's report? sounds like a good read
bowjob: there should be a rule on bitbet if people try to game the system by putting btc after the event stops
bgupta: so we gonna get a rash of articles talking about 200 and 2 billion
MJR_: not a lot holding back from 235 right now...this is getting crazy
rikur: jurov: they would get their own money back and a tiny profit on top of that
MJR_: geez, not even a little time to pause and reflect on how far we've come...nope, on to 300 NAO
MJR_: at what point do they cease seeing a bubble and start seeing a new price level?
MJR_: a penny
bgupta: umm a bitcoin trading company that just holds bitcoins that you could just as easily hold yourself?
kakobrekla: holding BTCs to avoid bad sell from our shareholders. This strategy now proved to be correct and to prize our algorithm. We proud of a very good work.
orkaa: ThickAsThieves: just create an onetime script that sells everything with a market order and transfers it to her bank account
gribble: MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).
kakobrekla: perhaps a slash was missing
thestringpuller: kakobrekla: I want a refund.
unbalanced_: also, it doesn't pay a div
unbalanced_: ThickAsThieves re: VTX I imagine it's because it stopped going up and some of the people who bought 10K worth noticed there were only a few dozen shares worth of bids over 0.20 BTC
gribble: smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 6 hours, 26 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <smickles> a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm
gribble: MtGox lag is 93.631956 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.187637391468 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
ThickAsThieves: Currently Almost a Dollar
gribble: Error: "volume" is not a valid command.
unbalanced_: jborkl_, agree with you re: BTC equities having a bad run: VTX just traded on Havelock for 0.24, down huge from 0.799 peak
ThickAsThieves: google is dumb and noted incomplete data as a cliff
bgupta: AM really is stuck in a trading range.
jborkl_: I did not name a stock
jurov: define crash... some fellows here call even correction to 170 a "crash"
jurov: but no, you're a friend :)
thestringpuller: quiet for how volatole of a day it was
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.361659 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000724760586664 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).
ThickAsThieves: a lifetime these days
gribble: MtGox lag is 3.534177 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00708245113738 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU).
deadweasel: add a '/' to any admin url to see source code, lol!
benkay: dudes i saw a thing about using javascript to reprogram routers yesterday
iz: yes, and a large fraction of the world is even more people
benkay: a small fraction of the world is a lot of people
iz: play a game where you walk through a minefield? how is that fun?
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benkay: a few executions to set the tone