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zinodaur: de prin ce parte
a tarii o arzi ? :)
mircea_popescu: maybe btc does
a similar number. runs up to 1k or w/e, then spends
a year there.
mircea_popescu: itstarted at 0.00002, went to 0.004 within
a fewe mionths
mircea_popescu: you know... obviously it would have been better if this happened slowly, over the course of
a year.
pgp: even for the most bullish among us - gotta admit that this seems
a bit scary....
unbalanced_: MJR_:
a common use case is socket.io goes on your server and in your own client web page
MJR_: with socket.io,
a client web page would request the socket.io client library from the server...
Bugpowder: mircea_popescu: Remember "20 is
a bifurcation point..." ?
gesell: dont know if anyone is interested but speculating on the utility of bitcoin pre-2013 and putting SR at the top of the list... basing utility worth on yearly revenue would put btc at $1.6 per coin. It held actually around this value this until speculation started to flow in. bubble, craash... settled back to around $3 for the year and up to $13 before end of 2012. Putting price of bitcoin as
a function of utility + speculation where speculation is one of
gesell: when has there been
a 50k sell?
gribble:
A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 9392456.7823 USD and would take the last price down to 135.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 187.8491 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 110.0784 seconds
mircea_popescu: i'll bet you
a 50k btc straight sell takes it under 100 atm
gribble:
A market order to sell 50000 bitcoins right now would net 9392456.7823 USD and would take the last price down to 135.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 187.8491 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 60.1194 seconds
gribble: (sell <amount> <thing> [at|@] <priceperunit> <otherthing> [<notes>]) -- Logs
a sell order for <amount> units of <thing, at
a price of <price> per unit, in units of <otherthing>. Use the optional <notes> field to put in any special notes. <price> may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include (1 more message)
gesell: i doubt
a whale could crash it either. the best you could hope for is
a ddos :P
gesell: thats
a $2million order
gesell: shows
a huge 8k btc wall at 212.13 that isnt in the order books
gribble: Error: "quotes" is not
a valid command.
gribble: MtGox lag is 121.32087 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.243125665104 AU. You could have sent
a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU).
taub: Until recently, anyone could place
a buy or sell order for Bitcoin, regardless of how much funds were actually available in their wallet, resulting in an order showing
a "Not enough funds" error status in the Open Orders list.
gribble: Error: "aks" is not
a valid command.
ChaangNoi: and 500 is too much, over 1005 jump could happen but it would take
a while to get
a new ath
jcpham: someone lit the fuse on the rocket
a few weeks back
bgupta: and remember because it's $ profits as calls move more and more into the money they have
a built in profit limiter.
jurov: two months in
a row loss for MPOE bonds will cause having to cover them all yourself, can't we at least assume that as
a baseline?
pgp: an alternative explanation is that they run their matching engine on
a commodore 64
pgp: mp: agreed gox is retarded - i'll bet that there system does funding check on every execution - it explains
a lot and is consistent with their press release...
pgp: mp: regardng gox. If I have
a funded buy order and an unfunded sell order for same amount and yet another unfunded buy order unde my funded buy order, then when first buy order gets triggered then sell order now becomes funded, no? and when sell gets executed the second buy order now become funded....
mircea_popescu: why not do something useful, rather than try and squeeze pennies out of
a service
jurov: mircea_popescu: as
a representative of bondholders i request you to increase price on calls
mircea_popescu: keep
a process on the clearing side, just move things in the active bnook as funds clear
pgp: question: with fastcash4bitcoins.com, isn't there an arb on that 15 min window when volatility is high? kinda like
a free put?
pgp: not really recursive, but
a shitload required checking with every order and execution...
mircea_popescu: just have
a process move order to active when funds clear
taub: >Greece is considering slapping
a .162 billion invoice on Germany as compensation for the Second World War.
punkman: "Bitcoin is
a tax on people who are bad at Byzantine fault tolerance."
gribble: MtGox lag is 327.08457 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.655473816059 AU. You could have sent
a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU).
Bugpowder: they pay under market, but its fast and easy and run by someone with
a clue.
Bugpowder: should have locked it and waited to see if there was
a dip
Bugpowder: just cashed
a bit more on fastcash
Scrat: ThickAsThieves: whenever there's
a rally payments stop :'(
gribble: MtGox lag is 198.983512 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.398760730118 AU. You could have sent
a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).
MJR_: filtering legit users from spam is
a lot easier than trying to stop traffic before it hits the router (actually impossible, it'll always hit SOME network device that you need)
MJR_: obviously, you can stop non-legit users from creating accounts by having
a funding requirement of 1btc etc...too costly to create the accounts, and why would you want to put all your coins into the hands of the guy you're attacking
Scrat: don't need
a session id to access say logo and css
MJR_: Scrat: I need to do more research, but it is outgoing that will run up the bill...you can throttle that based on
a bunch of heuristics
Scrat: MJR_: yeah I'm not saying otherwise, but in that case the objective of the attacker is to slap you with
a $100k ec2 bill
MJR_: but forcing them to blow up all of amazon in order to stop you is quite
a barrier to entry
MJR_: Scrat:
a million ways to deal with traffic, as long as your router doesn't blow up
MJR_: Scrat: or just only allow
a certain number of logins per hour per account
MJR_: Scrat: i think btctc.co had an implementation to stop that, force
a 3 second + redirect to the actual resource
Scrat: MJR_:
a smart attack targetted against ec2 would pull static assets with legit looking requests
MJR_: mircea_popescu: that is what i was thinking, building out infrastructure now, and that came up...i'm
a big fan of having instances running and waiting to be failed over to. Last design issue I wanted to think about is an "airgap" solution for something that is in the cloud...
mircea_popescu: jcpham this reminds me of the time george costanza + seinfeld decided they need like 3 of them to make up
a guy enouygh to mate.
jurov: O.o even if i hand-inputted sql statement for every mpsic, it would be less than
a day
ThickAsThieves: i assume jurov will need
a day or two to add these new options to coinbr?
jcpham: more than car, less than house is now more than
a house
Bugpowder: I liked getting woken up to bitcoinity playing
a video, and then
a message that the next funny gif would be revealed at $1000.
gribble: MtGox lag is 156.627681 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.313880119033 AU. You could have sent
a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU).
MJR_: oh i think they are
a huge scam
Bugpowder: Bitcoin days destroyed for any given transaction is calculated by taking the number of Bitcoins in
a transaction and multiplying it by the number of days it has been since those coins were last spent.
ThickAsThieves: the thing is, if you are
a big holder, youre better off selling in chunks
gribble:
A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 11219765.0124 USD and would take the last price down to 36.0100 USD, resulting in an average price of 112.1977 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 92.7004 seconds
Namworld: Maybe there's just
a lot more BTC lost forever than we thought...
taub: yea me too, i mean unless it's
a betting exchange, the cointerparty is the house
mircea_popescu: afaik plenty of places even in vegas will turn down
a 15k bet.
gribble: MtGox lag is 60.400741 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.121042408684 AU. You could have sent
a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).
imsaguy: what good is
a defender that can get knocked down with
a rock if fully exposed?
imsaguy: <mircea_popescu> then get owned by gingis khan << that's why you play as Victoria and build
a bunch of archers
deyyo: diablo 3 was
a fail game of the year
Scrat: "nevermind me, im just
a 1man operation that has moved $6 billion"
bowjob: aye, i see the btc from bitbet. thx
a bunch
bowjob: ive seen
a few, not sure how much in btc
gribble: MtGox lag is 0.573548 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00114938377024 AU. You could have sent
a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU).