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asciilifeform: part of it is the senescence thing
asciilifeform: recall the 'biological stages' thread ?
mircea_popescu: people want to have achieved rather than achieve, apparently. it seems to me a modern affliction, this, but who even knows.
mircea_popescu: and i suspect a lot of the popular hatred of inflation has absolutely nothing to do with inflation's ills, but quite the opposite ; and instead is a nude and rude displeasure at this "oh, now that i'm on the pig i can't just sit here and pick my nose ?!?!" thing
adlai: all i know is that the 'accounts' abomination thinks i move more coin than s.mpoe at peak frenzy
asciilifeform: 13:54 <+mircea_popescu> fuck, or get off the pig. << win!
mircea_popescu: you still got time to fail, what's your rush.
mircea_popescu: adlai ok ok, but the discussion is re old timers that got left behind. you're what, 2015 ?
adlai: mircea_popescu: member of the peanut gallery, warmer of bleachers, leader of cheering squad, etc.
mircea_popescu: fuck, or get off the pig.
mircea_popescu: people can believe the fuck they want.
asciilifeform: rather than a fixed parcel
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought the moral of that snippet was that the folks somehow believed that they had a ~share~
mircea_popescu: how are you involved in teh discussion adlai ?
mircea_popescu: the problem is that nobody kicked them out. the thing grew, they stayed the same.
mircea_popescu: yes, all the indians, and the prospectors, and the homesteaders and the whatnot can be all the butthurt they want at how they got "kicked out of their thing"
mircea_popescu: a lot of the bitterness of pioneers, espoused perhaps in its best form by cagney in that film ? ( http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollars-are-not-worth-a-fifth-of-a-bitcent-stop-selling/#footnote_1_55053 )
asciilifeform: is it even possible for honest fella to carry out this job in englisch world ?
mircea_popescu: was tall enough for a few years in the beginning.
mircea_popescu: he's a bright fellow, an an economics professor. and the opportunity has passed him by.
asciilifeform: i do not know enough to usefully say. but iirc mircea_popescu introduced him as 'fuck-you-moneyed' character.
mircea_popescu: back in 2014, after the wot split, tried to get him to fix gribble so it's no longer retarded. guess what ? still retarded, stateful auth, you name it.
mircea_popescu: absentee owner of dead irc channel, the kakobrekla before kakobrekla. what's so well about this ?
mircea_popescu: (yes, yes, "exceptions exist". sure, not all idiots are equally idiotic. nevertheless - none kept up with the coin.)
mircea_popescu: they could have been someone and done something. instead - they chose to be themselves.
mircea_popescu: they're ALL names of losers. these people - failed.
mircea_popescu: https://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php << you see all those names ?
mircea_popescu: look through the list, lemme quote for you.
mircea_popescu: i was there for it - you weren't there for it. i tell you it was a lot more of this than of that. but yes both existed.
mircea_popescu: and are going to make blender gravel.
mircea_popescu: which the imbeciles passed on, because hey. they fucking know better
mircea_popescu: in one view. in the other view, it was pure opportunity
asciilifeform: (bootstrapping via fraudulent preorder thing)
asciilifeform: the publicly-sold-miners thing was 100% chumpstrapping
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...in 2016 common people simply can not buy new miners, no matter what happens and how much money they're willing to spend...' << ahahaha precisely what i predicted when i showed up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i missed the billion mit dollars thing ?
asciilifeform: hey recall, my main criticism of the demo run mircea_popescu gave me in '12 was 'i made too much coin investing in the exchange itself'
mircea_popescu: check out the mpex magic!
mircea_popescu: because why, there's connection between words and things now ?
ben_vulpes: > and in general remain committed to the success of Bitcoin << aw, that's sweet of you
ben_vulpes: PeterL: did you /read/ the thing? it is not longer even remotely possible to own a stake in the thing anymore.
mircea_popescu: to force a comparison slighty : mergers and acquisitions in new york don't necessarily result in gold reserve trucks moving back and forth between ny and virginia or w/e.
PeterL: but it's mostly just mp shifting coin from one pocket to another, what changed, really?
asciilifeform: well yes, it is a theoretical thing, entirely conceivable that none of the recipients will blow it
mircea_popescu: "circulation" is a complex thing.
asciilifeform: though i can see one possible interesting, to civilians, item - that's a megatonne of coin that is now in circulation again.
asciilifeform: was trying to get measure of how thick i am.
mircea_popescu: does it have to have some ?
asciilifeform goes back to sleep
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interesting. am i thick or what am i missing, but afaik 0 implications in re the things that i do...
asciilifeform was not first to notice
mircea_popescu: but - that someone noticed & reported within 20 seconds is rather flattering o.O
mircea_popescu: well, the one bot is unvoiced and so on. but : http://trilema.com/2016/mpex-smpoe-closing-statement/
PeterL: mircea_popescu meant to take down bbet and removed mpoe instead?
asciilifeform: https://www.owlfolio.org/research/bootstrapping-trust-in-compilers << lulzy, folks reinventing the inevitable
asciilifeform: (if anyone thinks this is not being done to bitcoin, there is a bridge for sale)
jurov: mircea_popescu: pls to mpex
asciilifeform: jurov: ah i think that was it.
asciilifeform: 'Edge ISPs that inject false content affect their customers only. However, in this work we show that not only edge ISPs may inject false content, but also core network operators. These operators can potentially alter the traffic of all Internet users who visit predetermined websites. We expose this practice by inspecting a large amount of traffic originating from several networks...'
asciilifeform: jurov: e.g., tor nodes, have been substing btc addrs for yearz
shinohai: Fill in teh blank
mircea_popescu: i meant the wot
jurov: fetching from mpex via rss works fine, too
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c i dun recall what you answered. are you planning to move btcalpha over to deedbot data or ?
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of kakobrekla from 5 to -5 << Cap'n of industree, borrowed my blender, then decided to try and make gravel and... it just didn't work out!
mircea_popescu: $rate kakobrekla -5 Cap'n of industree, borrowed my blender, then decided to try and make gravel and... it just didn't work out!
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated kakobrekla 5 at 3571240878 << too much stuff to list. inquire within..
deedbot-: [Trilema] Yes there is a difference between rational and correct - http://trilema.com/2016/yes-there-is-a-difference-between-rational-and-correct/
mircea_popescu: seems very dubious any of those derps actually have any money, other than what they hope to get from the thiel warchest/spoils.
pete_dushenski: in light of the above, this shouldn't be in any way surprising : http://lesswrong.com/lw/ncv/attention_financial_scam_targeting_less_wrong/
mircea_popescu: but at least the issue of what's yurtowski's actual name has been resolved.
mircea_popescu: for the obvious fucking reason! more concrete details, more verifiable claim, more risky claim to make for the sort of dateless derp that's the internet weenie, thus less likely to be made lightly, thus more likely to be true!
mircea_popescu: except... OBVIOUSLY the proposition "internet weenie has a girlfried" is to be judged as less likely than the proposition "internet weenie has a girlfriend and her name is Samantha".
mircea_popescu: Experimental psychologists use two gold standards: probability theory, and decision theory. Since it is a universal law of probability theory that P(A) ≥ P(A & B), the judgment P("Bill plays jazz") < P("Bill plays jazz" & "Bill is accountant") is labeled incorrect."
mircea_popescu: "Sometimes experimental psychologists uncover human reasoning that seems very strange - for example, someone rates the probability "Bill plays jazz" as less than the probability "Bill is an accountant who plays jazz". This seems like an odd judgment, since any particular jazz-playing accountant is obviously a jazz player. But to what higher vantage point do we appeal in saying that the judgment is wrong?
mircea_popescu: with apologies for sullying the logs with the ditties of imbeciles, under promise i shan't do it again this year, let us quote.
mircea_popescu: which was a marginal sf-con thing many years ago.
mircea_popescu: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sad_Puppies << in other lolz of all time, apparently the sort of expired carcasses / h ellison impersonators that go around writing bad genre prose heard about the 4chan time thing a decade later and pulled a moot of their own at hugo
punkman: continuity would be definitely worth something to new owner is what I'm saying
mircea_popescu: he can't do that.
punkman: assuming you/kako/davout would agree to such a scheme
punkman: suppose new owner pays davout to hold the coins he already has until those bets are resolved.
pete_dushenski: or speak to where exactly 'line in sand' is for resolutions, though i suppose this can be inferred from sums in given accounting columns
pete_dushenski: speaking of lee sedol (and other bitbets), sorta surprising davout didn't seem interested in moderating more of the "sure thing" bets.
pete_dushenski: i can't help but lol at zaz when compared and contrasted with the lexus lfa mega-manufacturing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A2s61rT_30 (those uninterested in cars, but fascinated by either carbon fibre, circular textile looms(!), or simply obsessive engineering and exactitude will likely find this latter one of interest)
mircea_popescu: (in fairness to be distinguished from bayes' own work, about in the sense re tolkien above)
mircea_popescu: ironically it's exactly the sort of machine he understands and proposes, neh ? markov chain on steroids, ==== "rationality" in the sense of bayesian derpage.
pete_dushenski: in other orcishly modern news, this is what a russian zaz automotive factory looks like : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VN-nooxdUA
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: y Officially! shat his pants re alphago even before the lee sedol thing!
mircea_popescu: ai no longer a threat ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, and unrelatedly - what's the derp that put out a purple prose challenge, got totally owned on trilema but then pretended it never happened have to say about teh alphago ?
mircea_popescu: ok, point taken, the guy is good. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'from the unpublished manuscripts' my shiny metal arse.
asciilifeform: and ~it~ will likely be the next hollywood bucket'o'shit, if any of it.
asciilifeform: chris t. is crapping out pseudo-tolkien to this day
mircea_popescu: "On my father's death it fell to me to try to bring the work into publishable form." dude.... why.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PK'd | pkd. PK'd like in shot with the popular russian machine guns of a similar name PKT and PKM. He was short ten grand on his share and bigdogg pkd him.
mircea_popescu: do we actually want the bash still ?
mircea_popescu: let the permanent record permanently reflect that the horrible company i keep drives me to sin darker than damnation itself.
mircea_popescu: what's the difference ?