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davout: anyway, i'm genuinely curious as
to how much bitbet will end up selling for
mircea_popescu: reappearances of
this kind always suspicious
to me, but w/e.
mircea_popescu: davout yeah, was a guy active in 2011/2012
that
then disappeared.
davout: he's in
the mpex apparently
mircea_popescu: tbh, about as exciting as s.mg auctions lol.
they always make my sunday.
davout: znort987 whoever
that is
mircea_popescu: for most of
the land barely even had a census mechanism.
mircea_popescu: i dunno. who in 1900 had a large bureaucracy ?
the chinese, and
they got raped.
mircea_popescu: gotta appreciate -
the us started exactly as a sort of
tmsr of rich smugglers in an england province. conceptually it still sees broadly as
this "gentleman's agreement"
things etc.
mircea_popescu: ("you'd have
to do it in parallel anyway!" "well if you're doing it anyway, wouldn't it be ~rational~
they don';t do it at all and save
the cost ?" <<
that's
the logic.)
danielpbarron: if i
think
the amount
they asked for is incorrect, i'd come up with my own number and challenge it
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron but if
they just asked how would you know it's correct!
danielpbarron: i wouldn't mind cutting
them a check so much if
they came and asked for it; I can't stand
this whole "you do our work for us" ritual americans do every april
mircea_popescu: course, i suppose a wife could be found for
the govt
to cut
the deal with.
mircea_popescu: of course unlike
that guy you don't have either millions in assets nor a wife more
than happy
to get it all in exchange for paying
tax on it
mircea_popescu: ironically i linked a piece about some other famous
tax quarrel guy, who said
the same
thing (from jail)
danielpbarron: from what I understand,
they're supposed
to
tell me what i'm supposed
to have paid, and if i refuse
then
to pay it -> jail
mircea_popescu: so i'm guessing danielpbarron is getting voted most likely
to succeed jail ?
mircea_popescu: we can agree on
this once you give your sorting criteria
mircea_popescu: fact remains
the3 biological machine will spend
the same
time doing
the same
things
mircea_popescu: besides
the point what non-poor, non-rat poeople invent
mircea_popescu: cue
the canuck "renegotiable 5yr rate on 30 yr mortgages", i nearly fell over when i had
that confirmed.
mircea_popescu: actual young man goes into unrepayable debt, spends altogether maybe a year or so on
the
thing ?
mircea_popescu: mmmno. you're
thinking of a young man
that doesn't exist.
mircea_popescu: nfi. bout
the same fraction of its life as it
takes young male
to get his first
time house ?
mircea_popescu: i'll have
to have
that rat
thing demonstrated, doesn't seem
to make much sense
theoretically.
mircea_popescu: we know for a fact it's no crime
to be poor, and what follows is
that
the law doesn't apply
to you, just be poor.
mircea_popescu: anyway.
the way society works is
that it's either a crime
to be poor ; or else ity's a crime
to be rich. alternatives do not exist, it's a strict switch outside of
the capacity of convention, like gravity : either motor force or splat.
mircea_popescu: PeterL he has a peculiar notion of poor as "under
the weather / skilled immigrant / etc"
PeterL: asciilifeform you are in
the working-class
mircea_popescu: poverty means what it means, not what you dream it
to be.
mircea_popescu: why would poor people have a job.
that's
the parole officer's problem.
davout: PeterL: yes, it's a good point, i'll move my comment and keep an eye open
to move
those
that ended up commenting
the wrong post
mircea_popescu: and in
the beat wife sense and in
the won't pay
tax/alimony/whatever sense, and in
the stalking and raping sense and in all
the fucking senses.
mircea_popescu: in most sane places,
the way it works is
that if you are RICH
the law doesn't really apply
to you. but in
the us - converse.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you are poor in
the us,
the law doesn't (really) apply
to you.
danielpbarron: otherwise
they
take money out preemptively and I'd need
to file
to get it back
danielpbarron: it's my understanding
that in order
to have 0 withheld, i also have
to say exempt
mircea_popescu: in particular " Me: He was convicted on fraud charges; not
tax avoidance.
The prosecution made
the case
that he knowingly offered false advice in exchange for customer’s money." is a distinction without a difference. writing "extempt" when "you shouldn't have" is exactly what "fraud" means in
that context.
mircea_popescu: well, poverty is an absolute bar
to
the workings of law in
the us, if you're poor you're priviledged. nevertheless
the way
this works is
that you either say something or go
to jail ; and if
they decide you didn't say
the right
thing at some previous point you also go
to jail.
PeterL: all you need is
the one chump who will give you
the million
PeterL: how
to make a million dollars: sell a million
things for a dollar or sell one
thing for a million dollars
mircea_popescu: considering
the alternative is reading
the logs, 200mn might not even be a bad deal.
mircea_popescu: i can't see how ? prolly should put a notice
to bid in
the right place ?
PeterL: do
those bids even count?
PeterL: why are people putting bids in
the second progress report comments, when
the auction is supposed
to be held in
the comment section of
the first progress report?
davout: not like
they're my assets
mircea_popescu: ahaha bidding on own auction ? i gotta import
this in eulora
totally.
mircea_popescu: and yes,
the concept of multiple "channels" is entirely user-powered, you can make lists of
the people you listen
to any way you want.
mircea_popescu: trinque> seems
the voice model pairs with gossipd rather well, where voicing is a matter of message forwarding rules << it doesn't even pair, it IS it. substance of
the universe, not even protocol.
trinque: so
then in
this perhaps broken mental model of what
the
thing is,
the
trilema node would change whether it's gossiping about received messages based on wot ratings
trinque: I could of course send you messages I somehow say are intended for #trilema entirely aside
the point of whether
the official node bothers with
them
trinque: if one wanted a #trilema on
the
thing,
that would perhaps be a matter of
there being a #trilema node distinguishing official vs heathen chatter by what it bothers
to send along
to other nodes?
trinque: seems
the voice model pairs with gossipd rather well, where voicing is a matter of message forwarding rules
trinque: eh I guess you end up doing both, because
then you've still gotta nickserv auth
trinque: I could just move
the password and remove
the case where my nick hasn't been changed
trinque: phf: seems if my nick is automagically changed, my welcome hook would notice
that and do
the ghost as written
phf: so
the entire nickserv machinery is required
trinque: right, my func is a hook for
the welcome message
phf: trinque: nah, your nick will autochange before
the nickserv authentication. it's entirely broken, basically if you reg a, and a is already logged in, you get changed
to a` and nickserv goes "why you giving me password, a` is not registered"
☟︎ trinque: can keep
that and ditch
the nickserv auth
trinque: phf: my bot-check-nick would still work in
that case