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phf: alf is deeply infatuated at the moment with ada, so you should wait a few months :p
asciilifeform: the 'even' thing was not a built in op !
mircea_popescu: mk, we have to [re]do that discussion in depth, i guess.
asciilifeform: srsly, consider reading the rationale ?
asciilifeform: why do you need the infix claptrap ?
mircea_popescu: so i don't have to point out to you that yes it is, "even" "mod" etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for the latter, common lisp.
mircea_popescu: wouldja let go of that and look where i'm saying!
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, for the latter, there's... r ?
mircea_popescu: there's some shoddy solutions for the first. chiefly, c. people don't like them, but it is also possibly the case that they've gotten as close as possible.
mircea_popescu: there's fundamentally two ways to approach computing : as an engineer and as a mathematician.
mircea_popescu: honestly a proper modern fortran would prolly be worth the time to make. this specifically means upgrading it more towards derive than towards haskell
asciilifeform: jurov: ml (predecessor of haskell) is sorta like haskell but without some of the more egregious mental illnesses
jurov: i had to mark almost *everything* by "yes compute this now, not leave it to later"
jurov: than to get it not to hog memory by filling it with lazy comuptation thunks
asciilifeform: at the cost of doing 25x moar wurk total.
jurov: but that it took the "machine with unlimited memory" abstraction and took it to extreme
jurov: acc. to my hands-on experience, haskell's problem is not the cpu
trinque: google reinvents activex, is so totally not msft of 2010s
trinque: because who doesn't want to run binary blobs in a web page?
PeterL: has the leak gotten bigger with time?
mircea_popescu: atm trying a thing called "seamonkey"
PeterL: firefox used to be the best, now it just feels slow and clunky when I try to use it
mircea_popescu: i dunnoi, im not that into gfx browsers.
asciilifeform: but this is not saying much.
asciilifeform: 'chromium' was, last i knew, the ~least~ braindamaged
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there ARE NO sane graphical wwwtrons
mircea_popescu: shinohai any bets on who wins in the end ? :D
mircea_popescu: "the web" as a sort of google-run itunes store ? in the grand tradition of the bbs archive ?
mircea_popescu: whats that even mean.
phf: yeah, that's about how long it's been since you could get a decent browser behavior. i think that's when firefox switched from "general purpose xul renderer" to "modern browser"
mircea_popescu: "continue rtunning background apps when chromium is closed" thing takes the cake. nigga, say wut ?!
mircea_popescu: oh, don't tell me, i could "save setings online and access them from any browser"
mircea_popescu: popups to translate pages "not in the languages i speak" ? wtf does it know what languages i speak
mircea_popescu: who the fuck ever said chromium is usable ?
mircea_popescu: shares a bar for url and search ? "click here to log what you type in url bar which we now call omnibar" ? there's no way to see cookies, all you can do is "obliterate" items, and limited to "from the past...." so you can't actually purge the shitbag ?
mircea_popescu: holy shit this thing is inept.
mircea_popescu: so i installed chromium to check it out.
mircea_popescu: so is the guy znort or znor ?
davout: aaand pete_dushenski takes the lead with a 74 btc bid
asciilifeform: and at any rate, 9 was my top bid because... that was all the coinz i had.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it still tastes like rusty nailz
mircea_popescu: see alfie, metrics. they make any reality more palatable.
mircea_popescu: in any case he held top bid for a longer interval than the eventual winner is likely to :D
PeterL: asciilifeform maybe you just took the wrong strategy, should have waited until the end to go from .001 to 9 btc, scare everybody else off
mircea_popescu: i have a trilema article all ready for when this finally happened, went to bed expecting to publish it this morn... no dice...
davout: guess imma make myself some tea, this isn't going to be resolved today at this rate
gernika: asciilifeform: aqcuirers of web sites typically want all sorts of metrics about the site that might be in the logs.
PeterL: mircea_popescu mpex faq still points to #bitcoin-assets
davout: aaaaand pete is back in the race with a 72 btc bid
asciilifeform: can anyone suggest a reason why an honest man might ask for such a thing ?
davout: aha, i misunderstood, thought he asked pointers to the forum's logs
asciilifeform: if Matic could, as a matter of courtesy, provide the complete logs for the site.
asciilifeform: 'Although this is not a requirement, and assuming he has kept a copy, I would also appreciate
asciilifeform: in one of the signed bids.
asciilifeform: PeterL: he was this fella whom hitler hired to waste our time for ~2y
PeterL: meh, just wondering, I guess I can search through logs
mircea_popescu: there isn't any air for the whole "oh i did nothing wrong" contribution.
mircea_popescu: PeterL you think anyone here enumerates badness ?
davout: he's not wotless that's all
davout: everyone's my sockpuppet except pete who's being milked for the shareholders
davout: half an hour left to take home bbet
mircea_popescu: lively times.
danielpbarron is notoriously bad at auction times
danielpbarron: right, i thought maybe znort had made the bid an hour ago and it was he who won
davout: also i fell of chair when i discovered wp_comments table has two fields comment_date_gmt, and comment_date
danielpbarron: so is the auction over or did that extend it?
davout: so the bid is valid
danielpbarron: well i was able to fix pete's myself and see that it verified, but the same trick didn't work on znort's
PeterL: semms the comment system is magling the pgp-isms inline signaling
danielpbarron: not that you said signing is required
danielpbarron: hm, that latest bid doesn't seem to be signed properly
mircea_popescu pictures various groups frantically trying to gather more liquidity while the +1 btc bit bought them a little time etc
PeterL: cutting it close to the deadline, did the bid get in on time?
mircea_popescu: hmm seems there's a 71 ?
davout: danielpbarron: yeah, i'm adding them myself since wp is retarded
danielpbarron: ;; later tell pete_dushenski whoops, false alarm!
davout: imma check the precise timestamps
davout: danielpbarron: i usually add <pre> tags
danielpbarron: btw his clearsigned thing got mangled by your site, davout ; easy fix to confirm is add two hyphens to each group of hyphens
danielpbarron: ;;later tell pete_dushenski congrats on winning bitbet!
davout: still 12 minutes left to outbid pete_dushenski
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> 'More than 40% of Americans who borrowed from the government’s main student-loan program aren’t making payments << incidentally... i own a coupla of these.
davout: 10:33 ar time
mircea_popescu: right so technically speaking, time of last bid + 1 hr, and last bid is at 10:33 ie right now
davout: mircea_popescu: one hour after the bid war has stopped basically
mircea_popescu: is it past the end ? what's the cutoff, 1 hr from 10:28 art ?
mircea_popescu: but all in all this is SO MUCH like eulora auctions i can't fucking believe.
mircea_popescu: im so fucking curious what are the limits of the various parties involved and if any whale lurks lol.
mircea_popescu: PeterL that also.
mircea_popescu: o wow look at that, pete - znort - davout three way free for all! lol.
mircea_popescu: anyone cares enough to see if whoever's left at paymium wants to do a qntra interview ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: davout fancy that!
mircea_popescu: let's study why people who live off the dole don't build the empire that was.
PeterL: asciilifeform> (it is, i think, imitating the rear engine block of 12 cyl 'ferrari' with its air cooled motor) << I always thought it was supposed to provide some shade, keep inside car from heating up in the sun?
asciilifeform: 'The Education Department has assembled a “behavioral sciences unit” to study the psychology of borrowers and why they don’t repay. “We obviously have not cracked that nut but we want to keep working on it,” said Ted Mitchell, the Education Department’s undersecretary. He said many defaulted borrowers dropped out of school and are underemployed.'
asciilifeform: '... The picture has improved slightly from a year earlier, when the nonpayment rate was 46%, but that progress largely reflected a surge in Americans entering a program for distressed borrowers to lower their payments.'
asciilifeform: 'More than 40% of Americans who borrowed from the government’s main student-loan program aren’t making payments or are behind on more than $200 billion owed, raising worries that millions of them may never repay.'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-07#1447771 << hire to what? sweep floor ? ☝︎
davout: meanwhile, the bitbet auction best bid is at 50 btc, aka one full Bitcoin block reward