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asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: welcome aboard then, test pilot ! i'ma bake it.
mp_en_viaje: i honestly dun thinj ddos ; seems just shitty czech internets this time ; but sure, by all means, set it up ima try it out!
asciilifeform: i'd have already smashed my desk if i had to live with irc conn like mp_en_viaje's
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, what am i elaborating ?
asciilifeform: can i persuade mp_en_viaje to take a (pro bono!) bouncer rk in asciilifeformstein ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:31:11 mp_en_viaje: as i was saying earlier in the proceedings, nsa could very well support this effort ; but it has to be fucking serious not penny ante flavour-of-the-week amateur show.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 13:48:47 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: uninterested -- then uninterested. and i'd rather find out nao, than later, so ty. i dun have the capital to spend fulltime, and find it odd that mp_en_viaje only nao realized this.
asciilifeform: why ty mp_en_viaje . ( i appreciate the tutoring even if mp_en_viaje dun want to subscribe )
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 11:13:46 asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947796 << while all the other chicks from her hometown were busy mommyblogging... diana_coman 's been... doing other things, check her out lol.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 22:42:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947723 << imo 3% is already exaggerate. i'd be thinking more like a half percent, ideally.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: in reality i dun think ever had this experience of 'do w/out trying', i suspect mp_en_viaje is drawing from own biography. asciilifeform was not 'child prodigy' and never had this .
asciilifeform: i do ??
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947757 << quit squirming and making up bullshit. i don't need even the one full time guy ; YOU do.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 21:06:21 mp_en_viaje: and i do not say this idly ; i have made my own experiments as well as seen others', very EXPENSIVE, experiments in the same vein all over the world. people regularly sink billion+ in "tech incubator" producing nothing comparable.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: uninterested -- then uninterested. and i'd rather find out nao, than later, so ty. i dun have the capital to spend fulltime, and find it odd that mp_en_viaje only nao realized this.
mp_en_viaje: for as long as your mentality stays "amateur dabbler in tmsr", i stay uninterested.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:21:18 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: propaganda/l2 growth is ~the~ project. and req's asciilifeform's 'weak arm' to properly exercise. which is 1 of the reasons i took up 'bake isp again'. but presently weak arm. intent is to use strong arm to build exercise machine for weak, among other.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-18 12:02:14 mp_en_viaje: <mp_en_viaje> no, i'm not interested in sending you a harddrive so maybe you'll do something whatever in your garage.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 18:54:30 asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re those '200 hrs' , if there are actually 200hr/mo required for any part of this, i'ma have to hire ( BingoBoingo ?? ) an assistant. i dun have 200h/mo hidden up sleeve.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i promise -- not to.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i did not get chance to actually read any of it, and dun know when will, atm. comment strictly re interesting titles..
diana_coman: asciilifeform: yes, he has *something*; it's still on the to-figure-out list just what and so on; I'll update if/when something useful but not earlier and there's still quite a lot to clarify there even before spending any time on any code.
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-10-23 asciilifeform: guten tag diana_coman . you may have noticed, i put back the bot . it was synced with the new autosyncer that was to get deployed right before piz burned down. i'ma put it as vpatch, but prolly wont get chance this wk, hands full w/ 2nd draft of ispism.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 12:36:29 diana_coman: spyked: ha, that vpatch is interesting, I never really used the init part.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947792 << i also never used. in my eyes it smacked of 'svn', 'git', similar barbarisms; imho vpatches oughta be downloaded by hand, carefully, rather than to rely on mechanical 'load'em all' tricks.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 08:07:58 spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947786 << i'd luvv to see an l1 rack in ro, spyked ! keep in mind tho that asciilifeform 'cheats', has long existing experience buying irons, automated filler for rk's, many yrs in salt mines where set up, maintained, racks of irons, networkisms.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 08:07:58 spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
asciilifeform: spyked: the flip side of this, is that my rack is ~cheap~. so cheap that my ~post box~ at the post office costs almost half of it . its expense is somewhere b/w my water bill and mains current bill. i picked it up with the knowledge that if i am unable to make satisfactory arrangements to sell space in it to respectable folx, it can indefinitely serve as personal net hosting yacht for asciilifeform (who was paying through the nose fo
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:55:54 spyked: also, I think this is useful as a feedback/reflective instrument. if you make expectation for next 3 months, then in 3 months you have something clear to eval, adjust etc. otherwise it's just ???
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947784 << will say this : several folx expressed interest. but presently i do not know if will have ~any~ takers: for instance mp & diana_coman have very specific reqs that i dunno if can in fact fill. they might have to make own, heavy-industrial hosting system. all depends there on outcome of the costs-draft-then-flame process. i do not want to somehow bamboozle folx into buying pr
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 11:13:46 asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-23 07:54:52 spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 12:13:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect to move entirely to mp's wp when i get to moving www finally. but atm hands quite full. ( it'll be somewhat tricky, will have to port the coad printer extension thing to it, and various other things i changed over 12yrs+ of my www)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-10-23#1947775 << i'ma do it whether takes little work or much, my wp is obsolete . suspected that 'much' simply because i have custom renderisms in mine, for the 'peh' examples.
diana_coman: spyked: I think it was initially tailor-made for trb really, hence the odd stuff.
spyked: when I first looked into it, I found it a little odd myself, since it expects a particular URL structure, e.g. mp-wp/v/{patches,seals}. but then I got used to it and even adjusted my v mirror to match. afaik v.pl is the only vtron that comes with this functionality
diana_coman: spyked: ha, that vpatch is interesting, I never really used the init part.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 22:42:23 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947723 << imo 3% is already exaggerate. i'd be thinking more like a half percent, ideally.
spyked: asciilifeform, btw, how much money+time did you invest in this so far? and how much of that went on e.g. iron? this kind of stuff is useful first and foremost for you to review, but e.g. if I decide to start something similar in bucharest 1yr from now, it'd be hugely useful as a comparison point
spyked: also, I think this is useful as a feedback/reflective instrument. if you make expectation for next 3 months, then in 3 months you have something clear to eval, adjust etc. otherwise it's just ???
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 11:13:46 asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947621 <-- from my (most likely naive, since I've got 0-experience on the business side of things) the concerns seems to be rather re. your expectations of staying afloat, i.e. sales, revenue, how many clients you expect to get in what timeframe and how that'll cover your expenses. there might be some of that info in the logz, but imho this is worth includi
spyked: and regardless, I'd like to at the very least see the deedbot sources published, so lemme know if I can do anything to help in that direction
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-21 12:19:48 trinque: on that subj, if there's someone interested in paid work on deedbot, see me! I'm not very good at growing arms.
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-21#1947307 <-- defo interested and my schedule is open for changes/amendments come november. I am currently working a full-time saeculum gig, so I wouldn't be able to take this as a full-time thing, but I could do this in small weekly/monthly pieces, as with previous published work. so if you think this works and I'm th
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 12:13:40 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect to move entirely to mp's wp when i get to moving www finally. but atm hands quite full. ( it'll be somewhat tricky, will have to port the coad printer extension thing to it, and various other things i changed over 12yrs+ of my www)
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947571 <-- haven't been anywhere west of paris yet and of course would like to. I'm considering the possibility of spyked in cr 2020
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-20 14:51:29 mp_en_viaje: people ~never change the machine names ; websites come and go. so i'd say 1/3 to 1/2 of the internet's like that.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: re those '200 hrs' , if there are actually 200hr/mo required for any part of this, i'ma have to hire ( BingoBoingo ?? ) an assistant. i dun have 200h/mo hidden up sleeve.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: not done w/ the 2nd set of numerics yet, but seems i may have ~opposite~ problem atm
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947731 << i do not believe this actually does anything. you can for the same money chant above the creampie, it'll do exactly as much.
mp_en_viaje: so i guess that tty interface will have to be fixed ? or wtf ?!
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947723 << imo 3% is already exaggerate. i'd be thinking more like a half percent, ideally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 15:03:50 asciilifeform: for intervals of expansion : would also help if had any way to gauge demand. ( atm i have 1 ~maybe~ dulap-install being considered by diana_coman & mp. anyone else ? )
BingoBoingo: bvt: I'm sure they can try to work something out aroung your schedule.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:31:20 mp_en_viaje: incidentally, mylord verschlimmbessert : how's the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947499 notion sound ? either take a girl from home, have her do some nude work on the world's greatest beaches to spiffy up your blog illustration-wise ; or else i guess something can be provided locally.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:42:27 mp_en_viaje: anyway, i suppose the logical next step is for the remarkably productive bvt to do some benchmarking re speed of possible candidates (a list including atm the chacha and serpent -- knowledgeable folk feel free to propose more candidates) so as to have some practical basis.
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947578 << yeah, i will definitely test, including keccak (can pick c impl. for tests)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 06:39:48 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947561 - I can see that; my thinking was not towards using sha1 but more towards permitting other-than-serpent mainly because 1. serpent is still snake-oil and only adopted-for-lack-of-better option afaik b. maybe tmsr makes its own hash function next year or something (ha!)
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947572 << allowing arbitrary hash functions would create more bloat -- either i'd have to use some generic crypto abstractions, or hack up the build system and unconditionally enable all the accepted crypto algos at build time to use them directly. it's only chacha and sha1 that are located among e.g. memcpy in lib/ and available uncoditionally. the rest
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-22 02:32:27 mp_en_viaje: i also kinda like the idea of permitting each user to pick his own rng-hash-crypto key.
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947552 << this is a nice idea, i will implement it
bvt: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-22#1947549 << i certainly liked serpent most, because it went through at least some of form republican investigation, but decided not to hurry too much putting it everywhere.
BingoBoingo: I do have a meeting with different counsel tomorrow afternoon as well.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: supposing they give rat's arse re 'longterm', i suspect latech is in the 'take the money & run' phase of scamlifecycle
mod6: I'll have to admit, I don't care about all the rest of the noise, or whatever, my singular goal is to avoid paying out the rest of the contract.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This is why I remain open to settlement while applying maximum pressure.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: explain how you obtained a cap for ~enemy~'s budget ?! or do i misread ?
asciilifeform: mod6: i'd even be ok w/ spending a larger (so long as ~bounded~) sum, if we had some notion re the prospects
mod6: asciilifeform: that's pretty much where I was at as well. .25 BTC to evac. which is about ~$2k in today's prices.
mod6: asciilifeform: I think it sounds like a good place to rack the foundation's server (as previously discussed).
asciilifeform: w/ the new philosophy of tmsr iron being spread out worldwide, i dunno what kind of occupancy can expect in the immediate term. which is why began with dwarf rack rather than shelling out for the full orchestra immed.
asciilifeform: for intervals of expansion : would also help if had any way to gauge demand. ( atm i have 1 ~maybe~ dulap-install being considered by diana_coman & mp. anyone else ? )
asciilifeform: i'ma have to recalculate w / machine-amort. as separate figure.
asciilifeform: the carrier where it lives, however, is terminally retarded, and it's to be moved as soon as i have a free hand.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my wp is squarely a 'legacy system', analogous to e.g. 'mpb'. i dun propagandize its use, nor intend to separately genesis it, imho mp has the wp question 100% covered .
BingoBoingo: lol, I suspect an "update" killed his fix
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, that actually worked. ( tho, funnily, i had to correct the author's own piece, on ~his~ wp evidently did NOT work, his contained microshit-quotes!! )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i expect to move entirely to mp's wp when i get to moving www finally. but atm hands quite full. ( it'll be somewhat tricky, will have to port the coad printer extension thing to it, and various other things i changed over 12yrs+ of my www)
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo , i'ma look
asciilifeform: fwiw i dun enter text via the 'pretty print' wp editor, but as raw htm paste, so it prolly aint the editor that mutilates
asciilifeform: i'd like to finally patch mine
asciilifeform: diana_coman & mp_en_viaje are the king/queen of the prospective customer base, by weight, and so if no one adds anyffin in next few hrs, i'ma work w/ what's been given so far for draft 2.
diana_coman: I'll wait patiently for draft 2, there's no need for sneak previews in the logs or anything.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: moar in brief re expansions (will address pedantically in draft 2) -- they will have to be financed by actual revenue, and BingoBoingo-style auctions, i do not have massive capital (and what i have, is earmarked for physical irons, already ordered 'dulaps' and will be purchasing yet-moar of'em once it becomes clear that asciilifeform won't live alone in the rack)
asciilifeform: on top of this, i have a gentoo for'em; an automated system for provisioning; and rk is 'most cpu for the watt' box that i'm currently aware of, is imho excellent fit for a wattage-constrained initially small tower.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: re rk -- i included rk plant from the following logic : 1) it was best-selling product in era of piz 2) i am sitting on a crate of brand-new rk that did not get invoiced to piz or get to fly 3) pre-existing interest ( e.g. diana_coman's ) in inexpensive www mirrors.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'fully populate' i expect will happen quickly when l1 finds prospectus satisfactory. e.g. 4 'dulap'-type boxen and 1 shared-www per BingoBoingo's schematic already exhausts the energy supply. at which pt i'ma expand to full tower. and diana_coman is right imho, this oughta be detailed in 2nd draft.
diana_coman: take all the space you need, sure; I just want to see it or whether there will be any of it.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: and if it's not clear, this is not about my rk, the tiny-worth, no; it's mainly because I really don't want to move about s.mg servers again, it's been quite an intense week that post-pizarro implosion one.
asciilifeform: the 'solvent' part imho is satisfied by even draft 1. the 'expand' i think deserves more space.
asciilifeform: 'this is rubbish, not a proper plan' is not an eggog that i can work from, diana_coman . need detailed 'why, idjit, didntcha explain x?'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: if it wasn't clear from thrd, i intend to give the askers what they are asking.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: for that matter how do you know "dozens of btc"; and maybe I just love trinque, what.
asciilifeform: i'ma rewrite that thing until it actually satisfies all of the prospective inhabitants, would like to start the commercial life of the thing asap.
asciilifeform: that being said, if diana_coman has specific 'what about x', plox to comment, i'ma address in 2nd draft along w/ mp_en_viaje's crit.
asciilifeform: and typically elaborate biz plans are written for ~investors~ rather than customers, afaik. imho it is reasonable for folx considering to park expensive irons to ask for 'how you plan to remain solvent', hence this thread. but 'how you plan to become rockefeller' is imho tall order. esp. since i've atm no plan to become rockefeller via this work.