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mircea_popescu: i sleep with women without giving
them fingerprint
tests!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform inasmuch as
the deal doesn't concern you, what "our" planet ?
mircea_popescu: the expression
tho, "belongs
to X who unfortunately is outside
the walls" is pretty great.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a question
that needs an answer. if it works for him it works!
mircea_popescu: ah ah. felipelalli will have
to wait a little -
trinque was updating
the
two bots
to merge into one.
felipelalli: shinohai,
that's why I asked what is going with "that" deedbot- :)
a111: Logged on 2016-04-14 16:00
trinque: phf: I have not been collecting logs in postgresql because I
thought you were going
to handle it
sbp: must dash for a bit—in case I lack
the +v upon my return, it has been a pleasure.
thanks for
the chat
sbp: it's
the most Loper-like
thing I have seen outside of Loper
sbp: right where
the number is
sbp: the only surviving copy of
the biography
that numbers her works has a hole in it
sbp: Crabb Robinson said
that he
talked him out of it
sbp: William Blake was going
to burn his works. maybe he did!
sbp: potentially. but Emily Dickinson locked her poems into a drawer, and
they only got out again by chance
mircea_popescu: hm. we could
then correctly say your real life hasn't begun yet ?
sbp: none of
that on
the web,
thank goodness
mircea_popescu: no, not utterly
trivial shite.
the stuff
that you are proud of and pointedly accept as
the superset of your capacity and abilities.
sbp: researcher of early modern history
turned freelance programmer
mircea_popescu: so other
than waiting generations, we and so forth, what is it you do ?
sbp: maybe we have
to wait another generation or
two before we can fab chips at home
sbp: "and only xilinx's closed
turd knows where
they are in
the routing fabric" — ugh
sbp: I dunno man.
turtles all
the way down, and I don't
trust any of
them
sbp: I suppose
there's always
the FPGA route
sbp: yeah, even if you
took a batch and decapped all of
them but one, I suppose you wouldn't know for sure
that
that wasn't
the exploited one. I don't know if it's possible
to make a chip
that you can audit before it's running
sbp: maybe even open hardware! maybe even auditable! imagine
that!
sbp: yeah, but
the rats are on
the chips
these days
mircea_popescu: so you have a fundamental objection
to syntactical convention and a syntactic convenience objection
to a fundamental solution.
sbp: I could certainly accept uncompilable fexprs as being an expression of rubbish hardware
though
sbp: Wand and Shutt kept arguing about whether Shutt's expansion even worked, and I don't know
the outcome of
that. but let's say
that Kernel (Shutt's language) does work—it's syntactically somewhat unwieldy.
typing
the fexprs
to
the arguments is very clean and easy
to follow
mircea_popescu: or what exactly is
the purpose here, i dun rightly follow.
sbp: well,
that is intended
to be
the compiler
target of course. but I haven't finished
that yet
sbp: nope, I started working on
the bytecode stuff straight after
that
mircea_popescu: sbp you got a prototype of
this fexpr compiler
thing somewhere ?
mircea_popescu: the problem of how
to prevent
the failure mode is of course still open.
sbp: but once
the belt was gone,
they really missed it
sbp: I saw something recently where
they gave people a belt, and it buzzed in whichever direction was north,
to give
them haptic feedback as
to cardinal directions.
they seemed moderately annoyed
to indifferent about
the belt when wearing it, I recall
sbp: after
the spin he still knew which direction was which. quite incredible
sbp: they did an experiment once where
they
took a member of
the
tribe and flipped him around really fast
sbp: (the "Australian Aboriginal people
the Guugu Yimithirr have no words denoting
the egocentric directions in
their language; instead,
they exclusively refer
to cardinal directions")
sbp: if I were a member of
the Guugu Yimithirr I could perform such cardinal sins more easily
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform (it was old norman, a marginal dialect of french, disused in france due
to paris ascendancy,
that survived as a very intricate
technical language via oxford law uni.)
sbp: ah, where's
the fun in
that
mircea_popescu: sbp
the cardinal sin of writing is
to not know why you chose a style.
sbp: I don't know why I wrote it in
the style of a Klondike gold prospector era huckster salesman
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform however
the reverend of nyssa's mockery is quite on point you know :D
sbp: oh,
the spoilers refer
to having solved
the challenge set in
the post. spoilers in
the sense of spoiling
the end of a movie
sbp: he invited me
to post
the code
to
the weblog, and
the rest is history
sbp: the code was
trivial, but I decided
to show it
to asciilifeform
to avoid duplication of effort
sbp: I know he just meant alert reader generally, but he did a previous post where one of our chatlogs was
titled "the alert reader", and so I decided
to
take up
the challenge anyway because I was curious as
to what
the encodings were—I wanted
to understand how
the seals were intended
to be used
mircea_popescu: sbp> why not of ecc? <<< it's in
the logs! but in summary : direct equivalent of
the obscurantist practice of "whitening" except with math rather
than rngs.
sbp: asciilifeform issued a little
trivial challenge in
the post, directed
to
the "alert reader",
to decode
the seal examples
that he gives from his single byte encodings into human readable form
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, can you actually
translate
that comment yourself ?
mircea_popescu: sbp bot seems
to be in a smashed state. maybe can'\t get outbound connections, we'll see in a bit.
sbp: tried it in private
to avoid spamming
the channel, but I still get failed import