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mircea_popescu: don't mind the coincidences.
trinque: the thing would stay connected for a week or more while I was developing it
a111: Logged on 2016-04-18 17:13 mircea_popescu: check that out, poor deedbot. blackholed on the hour like clockwork
mircea_popescu: check that out, poor deedbot. blackholed on the hour like clockwork ☟︎
asciilifeform: everything's mystical to the fella who dun have to live it himself.
mircea_popescu: so sad too bad, such mystical self amputations.
mircea_popescu: eh, and man without "an appetite for labour" will have to do pretty good on theft ?
mircea_popescu: so then! what "ideological sauce". it's a fact.
asciilifeform: but man without legs has to get pretty good with arms.
mircea_popescu: "community" has gotten together and made it obsolete. *rolleyes*
mircea_popescu: no but that's exactly the pretense here.
mircea_popescu: what, it was made obsolete by the community ?
asciilifeform: i am satisfied that our mircea_popescu has not been stolen!
mircea_popescu: politics are easy ; technology is hard. that some people would dedicate themselves to the hard without any whatsoever effort put into the easy is both scandalous and suicidal.
mircea_popescu: no, they're not equivalent in the slightest.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-18 16:36 mircea_popescu: why is it that you think yourself the crystal dragon jesus of wrighting boats when you can't as much as punch out another chimp ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-18#1453427 << it is mircea_popescu'd ideological sauce that these are equivalent or even comparable, i get it. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: everyone's fine once they give up on the disease.
asciilifeform: old men are not reflashable, (though i hear, they ~are~ recyclable..)
mircea_popescu: i know no such thing, and you're lucky you don't have tits, there'd be a whipping in it for you by now.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu knows this,.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless. the cure is the cure ; the dicking around is the dicking around.
mircea_popescu: but it is actual lived experience, not just theory. i have a female human right here whose task it has been to talk to women each day for the past months, and it has driven her to tears and the very brink a few times already.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu had said anything else i'dve worried that he were stolen and replaced by a cheap double.
mircea_popescu: you're fixing the wrong end.
mircea_popescu: mno. there's the end where you try to build a gyroscope-stabilized microscope on a small sea platform ; and there's the end where you start going to bars and picking up women you're not the slightest bit interested in and marrying them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a problem. for some reason you're approaching it at the very wrong end of the funnel.
mircea_popescu: it surely as fuck solves iron right into the depths!
asciilifeform: understand, i would rather seal hard disks against sea foam, than deal with humans.
mircea_popescu: fuck, seawater great solvent, will solve a lotta things.
mircea_popescu: phf it doesn't count there, anymore.
asciilifeform: one type of item i deal with, like breathing. other - entirely useless in.
asciilifeform: understand the difference ?
mircea_popescu: this heuristic is about as idiotic as the heuristic that you consider men approachable for sex but women not.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my heuristic is that i consider problems involving simple physical systems, thousands of years in test, as SOLVABLE. and those involving people/social skill, etc. NOT.
mircea_popescu: why is it that you think yourself the crystal dragon jesus of wrighting boats when you can't as much as punch out another chimp ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nevertheless you do not consider the former a feasible approach to the problem of tax ; but you without as much as batting an eyelash pull the former out fo ass in response to a challenge you hadn't even considewred!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so mr o's tub never leaks ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not the point. the point was that YOU COULD, actually, wring a tax accountant's neck. you could not, as a factual matter, plug a leak.
phf: asciilifeform: you really need to be a mythical la-fondian character from robert howard stories to pull it off as "escape from rent", but then you won't be escaping to begin with, since you were never it
asciilifeform: and yes, somehow life on ships is 'adolescentine male fantasy' to mircea_popescu but shooting tax collectors (who, where i live, come in tanks and with heavy machine guns, by the dozen) isn't...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i just happened to go in one, on the way from place 'a' to place 'b'
BingoBoingo: Oh, is that what was going on at the Marina?
mircea_popescu: this is all the better - they don't.
mircea_popescu: the problem of old people is that they don't think they may have permission to exist.
asciilifeform: phf: understand, i find it appealing strictly from the escape-from-rent angle.
phf: it seems important to die from time to time
mircea_popescu: "i need X for X" "wouldn't it be cool if X then i could Y" etc.
mircea_popescu: easy to be recognized because they come in a few standard flavours :
mircea_popescu: the reason this is so, is because as you age you become enmoored to various idiocies.
BingoBoingo: yw shinohai ty for the submissions
phf: it seems like a fun thing to do when you're young though, as long as you don't sit in the dock all the time ermagerd
mircea_popescu: guaranteed not to even notice the inconveniences of the lifestyle.
mircea_popescu: if you're going to do that might as well move to rural georgia, pick a blondy and a mulatto woman and smoke meth for your remaining years.
asciilifeform: and when they start to leak, they use the lift (comes with the slip rent) and drag the tub to the communal repair lot, and work.
mircea_popescu: the folks "doing the boat thing" are a 1% subset of the folks doing the RV thing.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my understanding is that many of the folks doing the boat thing (and we have them even here in dc) don't go far from the parking dock.
mircea_popescu: if the rent is 2k the leak fixing is 20k. for the same reason.
mircea_popescu: costs have a structure that is idependent of your perception.
mircea_popescu: no, "live on boat" is more of the same adolescentine male fantasy displayed by overfed neotenic preteens captive in aging, sagging bodies that won't grow up for the life of them.
asciilifeform: realize, the 2k/mo i wouldn't be paying in rent buys quite a few fixed leaks.
mircea_popescu: phf maybe they're zombie manatees ?
mircea_popescu: much harder to plug leaks in seagoing vessels.
mircea_popescu: ~anyone can wring the neck of a mousy accountant.
BingoBoingo imagines converting uninhabitted island to kentucky bluegrass monoculture and setting loose solar robot mowers has potential for lulz.
phf: live on boat is a slightly more proactive take on "wait for zombies to come"
mircea_popescu: you're going to fix leaks alone when you couldn't as much as buldgeon to death a puny taxman.
mircea_popescu: too fat ? eat more junk food. too lazy ? get comfier couches. wanna escape rent ? move on fucking venus! no rent there, it's all costs!
mircea_popescu: and if you can't talk to women - BE MORE SELECTIVE AS TO THE WOMEN YOU TALK TO!!11
mircea_popescu: hey you know what ? pay more taxes, thatg'll malke them go away!
mircea_popescu: the notion that escape from rent is to go into a hostile element that's not self-sustainable is about as retarded as you'd expect from americans.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform suppose you spring a leak and must have it fixed RIGHT NOW. or at least be toed in drydock.
deedbot-: [Qntra] The Parting Of ChangeTip Continues - http://qntra.net/2016/04/the-parting-of-changetip-continues/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ie, if you can't afford the toilet paper in monaco, that doesn't mean it's because ofg the cost of tp you can't move there.
mircea_popescu: nowhere it is relevant for STRUCTURAL reasons. that it appears significant to you in x context it's only because you're not accounting for the other, more important costs, which also scaled up.
asciilifeform: rather than pleasure yachting
asciilifeform: elsewhere - i can easily believe that it is not.
mircea_popescu: trinque thanks god you made it come back after getting fucked, seems an hourly occurence these days.
mircea_popescu: the point being, that the mooring costs of a small vessel are about as relevant to such decisions as the cost of toilet paper to choosing your eventual residence.
trinque: I've got a few more tasks left then I can kill the old bot, couple of days
trinque: mircea_popescu: ah hadn't read yet; I was just throwing that in here because deedbot- was unvoiced
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i would park there immediately if i had a ship.
mircea_popescu: trinque re the darknet link
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform costs a lot less than that to park it in colonia on the rio de la plata.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: prolly 90% of the reason i even read the man, is that his idea was solid - there is exactly ~one~ escape from the real estate leeches, and it is into the ocean.
BingoBoingo: Now that could be a hobby.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: But how would I get to engage in my lawncare hobby living aboard? Seawater isn't exactly a great growth medium for turfgrasses.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ever consider doind the orlov thing and moving to one ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: unrelatedly, i found out that orlov told the truth, and it really does cost only a few hundy usd/mo. to part a 30 ft. boat (on east coast usa at least)
BingoBoingo: Yeah, lead doesn't belong in the decanted fluid. It belongs in the glass of the decanter.
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo last one I promise http://ix.io/x0v (more changetip lulz)
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://ix.io/x0p
PeterL: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-17#1453238 << I guess I am technically downstream from Flint River, but first the water gets diluted in the largest freshwater lake in the world (4th largest by volume) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: o wow i suspect this means i wrote over 65k footnotes to date
mircea_popescu: and something to interest the CA fans in the audience : http://trilema.com/2016/euloran-biology/#footnote_3_65938
phf: yeah if you do nc -v chat.freenode.org 6667 couple of times it gives you different ips
mircea_popescu: at least in theory. but then they went from 20ish entries to like 9.
mircea_popescu: ah no, it's handled as a round robin. you ask for it, dns server gives you the least loaded ip
asciilifeform: i was under the notion that it was a one specific box, which then redirects
asciilifeform: how does the chat.fn thing actually work?