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mod6: i'll tell you guys more later. but this is pretty cool conversation over here. people are really receptive to btc -- and these people totally non-technical.
BitHub: Hey guys, you can now talk to BitHub directly from our site, I know wow real time customer service, who knew.
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: heh, no, I don't think I know that one
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu zi bre, care-i diferenta intre o pisica alba si-una neagra ?
Eduard_Munteanu: I suspect you might need something like that to short safely on BTCs.
Eduard_Munteanu: I actually did something like that at some point. Though I'd lose patience and go with more bucks at it, perhaps that was it. :D
Eduard_Munteanu: Actually yeah, dunno why I said that. :)
Eduard_Munteanu: I didn't put a lot of money in it, a few hundred dollars.
Eduard_Munteanu: Yes, I could literally influence the market on BVB, even on certain Cat I securities.
mircea_popescu: why trade bizarre illiquid shit... i mean, mpex and bvb are not exactly the same size, but not exactly that far off.
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: I went through some random trader from US, the only thing I complain is the huge leverage
Eduard_Munteanu: I'd much rather do forex. Haven't tried Sibex though.
mircea_popescu: right. i don't understand why anyone'd bother, other than to hedge speciffic risks
mircea_popescu: Eduard_Munteanu if that thing ain't rigged i'm a girl and don't even know about it.\
Eduard_Munteanu: Let's just say I might break even on gold after losing quite a bit of money on the stock market.
mircea_popescu: i have no idea, haven't followed that since the late 90s
ThickAsThieves: i do wish US taxes were simpler and closer to a flat tax
ThickAsThieves: i guess it still comes out somewhere
ThickAsThieves: but i do believe the sentiment of those bitcoiners
Eduard_Munteanu: So if I can keep a lil' more to myself... :)
Eduard_Munteanu: I am poor, FSVO poor.
ThickAsThieves: i dont disagree
ThickAsThieves: i know most americans would default to that attitude
mircea_popescu: and if i do sell sure it'll be reported as revenue
mircea_popescu: i've not sold other than negligible amts
mircea_popescu: i've bought plenty on my own account, as any other game subscription./currency/whatever
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: I think so... hypothetically. :)
ThickAsThieves: i know youll only give one answer i guess
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: say a company wants to employ a sizeable portion of its workers under the table, that's the sort of scenario I have in mind
Eduard_Munteanu: I still assumed people were stubborn about it, so yeah, you're probably right.
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: stuff like "I can't pay you cash, I don't have it"
mircea_popescu: i never heard of such a problem.
Eduard_Munteanu: I'm sure there are ways around it though.
Eduard_Munteanu: I've seen people complain about it.
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: I wonder if BTC is a good way to get money *out* of the company's accounts
ThickAsThieves: so would i call it an investment? Or what kind of expense?
mircea_popescu: i know some guy that charged all his game subscription to company
ThickAsThieves: incidentally every dime i've spent on bitcoin has come froma company account
Eduard_Munteanu: I wonder if you could deduct buying BTCs here.
Eduard_Munteanu: Initially it seemed like a good deal, I probably would've bought a ~ $1500 miner. I'm interested to see how much they manage to get out of it.
Eduard_Munteanu: Did you get a miner btw? I'm a bit sorry I'm late to the party. :(
mircea_popescu: this lesson has not been lost on anyone i've talked to.
Eduard_Munteanu: Yeah, I'm pretty amazed it didn't crash. Might be relatively stable after all.
Eduard_Munteanu: mircea_popescu: I still think we might see people cashing in USD, perhaps ASIC manufacturers for their day-to-day operations.
mircea_popescu: how long till people start coming to their senses ? "i am not the police and i do not do the job of the police. do your motherfucking jobs!"
jurov: some do but not many, i feared with prices i'm offering i'll have to think hard about collateral requirement
mircea_popescu: i think so.
mircea_popescu: i wonder why.
kakobrekla: i think
kakobrekla: unless its inaba crying i dun wanna hear it
kakobrekla: i dont think there will be any majorish price increase until there is majorish difficulty increase
Bugpowdr: I think he is doing ok
Bugpowdr: I want to like sell maybe 10% of my coins for a Tesla.
kakobrekla: i bought a car with em with btc was liek 5 euro
kakobrekla: im so stupid i dunno how to do dat
jurov: even if it crashed tomorrow i can say i was living 2 months off it
jurov: yea.. and i was ..like.. a broker, hahahaha
Bowjob: I wanted to see an apocalypse bet
Bugpowdr: Ron Paul to become president. Yeah I'll bet 50BTC against that and take your money thank you
Bugpowdr: So I just bet against the pro one and for all the others
Bugpowdr: I liked the SHA-3 bets
kakobrekla: i never saw a bet worth registering for
Bugpowdr: i would be surprised if it really was down perm
jurov: i'm concerned only about difficulty increas, that shoudl happen around March 14... and it won't be affected much
dub: midnightmagic: I didn't realise canada was a federation
Namworld_afk: Bugpowdr: personally I wouldn't mind that much right if BTC went to zero and died.
dub: I prefer not to
dub: and yes I am selling it
jurov: i seriously expected mention of silkroad/satoshidice
Bugpowdr: "At this point, bitcoins could go to $0 without any regrets" I seriously doubt that this statement is true.
deadweasel: i'm closing this ssh session. these people want to offer me a permament position, I should pretend to work the last 10 minutes i'm here.
deadweasel: i gotta get out of here.
deadweasel: srsly, I just don't give a fuck about working anymore.
DeadWeasel: nope. i just want to go home.
swhitt: I bet BFL won't ship until the end of march
jurov: with no signs of fpga progress... maybe i can sell some more iDiff-Os at 0.07
jurov: the issues i had would be unsolvable with 10-100x higher volume
jurov: i decided to dampen things in coinbr by asking monthly fee... after several months i can say i did it right
jurov: maybe we can do some other project like he did with kakobrekla if i come around interesting idea
jurov: whatever. i'm used to doing things in this fashion.
jurov: even if i paint him in rosy colors, then they come around trilema blog and MPOE-PR haha
jurov: i also expect ddos, it will make it handling easier if backend is completely elsewhere
jurov: i prefer to have frontend and backed physically separated
jurov: i don't have to trust the filthy bitvps machine, that's all
jurov: maybe i'll have to use extra account for that, move the user's stuff there
topace: i like residual income, not income i have to work for!
jurov: but i'm very wary of any automatic moving of stuff to/from mpex
jurov: anyway i did it only once so far... with your offering this may get requested more and be the impetus do do it better
jurov: coinbr does push completely manually, i can give you the receipt if needed
topace: ^ there, i actually LOST bitcoins doing that arbigrage, just to move another 5000 shares to havelock
topace: yea.. i'd do that for havelock users too, if im around
ThickAsThieves: ah, thats what I was referring to with deadterra
topace: or, had someone with an mpex account willing to purchase/push on you rbehalf (others here have made that offer to people before i've seen)
ThickAsThieves: i need to just get an mpex account already
ThickAsThieves: the feature you are developing, I mean
topace: thus, why i want to setup this automatic push system
topace: i move things at break-even often, so no profit from the arbitrage at all
topace: ThickAsThieves: i dont mind hogging all the arbitrage at all, but its kind of a conflict of interest since i run the site... if my goal is simply arbitrage at least... which it hasnt been since we launched.. my goal has been to grow the sdice holdings on havelock, and the only way to do that is to buy on mpex and sell the units on havelcok, so the arbitrage is a added side-benifit to me.
ThickAsThieves: but to be fair, I didn't know anyone did it til Deadterra
ThickAsThieves: i started on havelock