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mircea_popescu: and by trims i mean a list. civil judgements for accidents, including hunting! included.
mircea_popescu: + various trims.
mircea_popescu: locals fell over when saw. even at the time, my thing beat their 7k/year thing.
mircea_popescu: yes, it was a nicety thrown in because shipping insurance deals. whatevs.
mircea_popescu: and re the fine print... there's a lot of suckers and retail in there. last i went to the states, i got full insurance, from lloyds of london no less. for, if memory serves, #159.
asciilifeform: it is a kind of outer barbed wire they get stuck in and shot by the guards.
asciilifeform: and end up there.
asciilifeform: instead folks try to escape employmentschwitz
asciilifeform: anyway i'm not convinced that ~anyone actually ~chooses~ to become a naggum
mircea_popescu: hey, plenty of people get degrees in history of feminist theatre.
mircea_popescu: just like going to college to learn clowning.
asciilifeform: only that plenty of folks, incl. apparently the late naggum, lived in it.
trinque: sorry, *there is a minimum expense involved in running a business and you can't get around that fact.
mircea_popescu: there is nothing wrong with this - people do it all the time. venice was entirely built out of the fact that a boat took on average 3.5 merchants
mircea_popescu: the ONLY way is for 2-3-5 to get together.
asciilifeform: trinque: mighty fine answer. but you left out the broomstick.
mircea_popescu: there exists a hole in this "single derpy consultant business".
mircea_popescu: some chokle the engine. some ruin the gearbox.
mircea_popescu: if you ever drove clutch you gotta understand this. you can not run car at ALL speeds and combos.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: again i had this, and it was a real laugh, read the fine print sometime.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you have to appreciate : in nature, there exists such a thing as a hole.
asciilifeform: i had this, it was a joke
trinque: wtf is a business if you can't pay a few grand to a lawyer per month?
mircea_popescu: you know you can generally get a basic package kinda similar to insurance.
asciilifeform: naggum and stack were similar in that actually getting all of the support they were 'supposed to have to run business' would likely have ~wiped them out~ financially and still put them no farther away from statal rape
mircea_popescu: you ever took a good look in goat's eyes ?
mircea_popescu: i always thought it was the eyes
mircea_popescu: the notion that you're going to run a business, but not have counsel, not have tax and accounting support, not have etc etc is like you'll cook a meal for a wedding without stove or pots or pans.
asciilifeform: the c,d,e buttons are actually connected to something, for him.
asciilifeform: but this is interesting to mircea_popescu because he ~has~ the maneuvering space.
mircea_popescu: one can't exist without these people.
mircea_popescu: do you understand this ? about a third of my mail EACH DAY is various people in various jurisdictions telling me "mr popescu how do we proceed in the following situation : X. A does so and so B does so and so [C, D , E]"
mircea_popescu: this is not to be taken lightly.
mircea_popescu: could have told him WHAT fucking each path would hold in future!
asciilifeform: how was he to get ~unfucked~.
asciilifeform: how much good this did ?
asciilifeform: yes, an accountant could have - and probably did! tell naggum that he was fucked.
mircea_popescu: look, the dilemma here isn't "either i be eunuch or else i go fight for odin as a berserker"
asciilifeform: over here in usaschwitz folks learn to - yes, not even try
asciilifeform: it is precisely the 'overcivilized' thing
asciilifeform: would have learned to not even try, and then what, spend life working for racal norsk ?
mircea_popescu: "i didn't expect solid items to be where the atmosphere goes"
asciilifeform: granted, to mircea_popescu on mt olympus none of this is relevant
mircea_popescu: how do you perceive what he did (hurr durr i'm going to be a business) is different from average tardstalk forumite (hurr durr i'm going to be an exchange) ?
asciilifeform: and from whom they then take whatever isn't bolted down
asciilifeform: it is relevant to the man who has to pay and hasn't with what
mircea_popescu: the term "slap on the wrist" is a business call. it stands correct as it is. your "pretty penny" is a housewife call. it's not relevant how much it is.
asciilifeform: (they would not believe that he preferred to work 2-3 mo./yr in actuality)
asciilifeform: and it wasn't a slap on the wrist, it was - iirc - a pretty penny
mircea_popescu: at the very least would have warned him 2 years in advance.
asciilifeform: tax expert would have somehow settled the 80% norwegian tax, assessed ~based on profession~, rather than actual receipts, into something sane?!
mircea_popescu: he decided to do this incredibly idiotic thing after which didn't want to pay the slap on the wrist penalty that attaches to doing incredibly idiotic thing ?
mircea_popescu: "man should not discharge rifle into boat". who the fuck told him he can run a consulting business without a tax expert ? even accountant level.
mircea_popescu: "what should man that discharged his rifle into his boat do ?"
asciilifeform: the one option was, i suppose, to go stack.
asciilifeform: so then. what should he have done against the tax inspectors.
mircea_popescu: this is how this works : if it is your field of expertise, you have legal team ready to go. either you're a complete imbecile, or woe be upon whoever gets involved. if not your field of expertise, you're either prosecuting in which case generally you want to assign the matter ; or else you're in deep shit.
asciilifeform: but admit, this is 0 use to a naggum.
mircea_popescu: in general, if you're not working with retained counsel, but have to purpose hire, you have no business going to court.
mircea_popescu: i've so far netted more money than the average us citizen's net worth out of simply selling cases.
asciilifeform: in usa, at least, 'individual' is more often than not sunk on the very day he has to so much as ~appear~ in court.
mircea_popescu: but in general - not that i expect this to be practically useful to anyone, as it isn't without the rest of the tools involved - the matter hinges on that fine thin line when liability can be personally attached. once you can start going after individuals rather than their precious "government" construct in the abstract, they pop like watermelons in august.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to try and run a marathon. it;s another thing to try and run a marathon with pneumonia.
mircea_popescu: wouldn't advise anyone to try, either.
asciilifeform: srsly you need a certain amount of mircea_popescutronium to 'jurisdiction shop', appear in court, etc.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: except you did not do it from the position of being a pauper.
mircea_popescu: [yes, i've beaten tax authorities into the dirt on multiple occasions]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 00:49 phf: naggum tried to maintain his own versions of everything (i.e. burn it out with hot irons) and...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455048 << i think naggum was an incredibly poorly managed project. i wouldn't think his experience informative, for anything ☝︎
mircea_popescu: who the fuck asked anybody, and why isn't this just some text config file somewhere.
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 00:46 phf: oh i understand. it's like the cl mode. they've been fighting cl mode for years, without success, because it's hellof useful. not only has cl mode now been replaced with cl-lib which prefixes ~everything~ with cl- (cl-first, cl-defstruct, cl-fuck-your-mother) but they also disabled highlight of all the cl forms. so cl-defstruct highlights, defstruct doesn't. to discourage the sins of the flesh, y'see.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455044 << i don't comprehend how this can even be a thing. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2016-04-22 00:37 asciilifeform: there is apparently nothing more alluring to the vermin than a not-yet-verminized ecosystem
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455022 << it's not JUST that, also needs another ingredient, a special flavour of "open". geek-open, when people aren't comfortable with humiliating idiots. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mats> anglos go rite to hell, etc << but i'm not anglo ?!
mircea_popescu: check out the alfwall.
asciilifeform: it is not actually hard to massively improve on cadr, much of its gnarl was that it had to be made of 74xxx and of weird amd ALUs available at the time
phf: ok, i'm going to sleep. this was an entertaining conversation, even if a recap of many past threads
phf: well, more like 8086 and cadr today and proper lispm maybe in the future if somebody designs one
asciilifeform: (again this number is missing several 0's, but for sake of argument.0
asciilifeform: the thing is that neither of these concerns really interests anybody who has a spare 500k
asciilifeform: there is also the advantage i described earlier, re 'specificity of diddling'
asciilifeform: can run x86 proggies today, and have the option of proper lispm later
asciilifeform: the advantage is that you keep the design space.
phf: so what's the advantage of fpga based architecture as opposed to someone hypothetically investing quite a bit more than 500k into a high density risc, etc.?
asciilifeform: and i have no reasonable expectation that anyone could recoup the costs.
asciilifeform: it'd be quite a bit more than 500k
phf: so the idea is what drop $500k on an pure documented fpga, hope that maker crowd will help you recoup your costs, use fraction to run tmsr infrastructure? :) ☟︎
asciilifeform: (modern vendors succumb to the temptation to put a great many special-purpose parts in fpga, e.g., multipliers, even whole cpu cores, etc. i am specifically not talking about their rubbish.)
asciilifeform: even if enemy supplies ~all~ of the cubes.
asciilifeform: handily solves 'diddle' also - which cube will the enemy sabotage ? how does he know which one will hold what part of your circuit before you assemble them ?
asciilifeform: where 'computer' is simply this mass, of how many of these things you screwed together and attached dc power supply to.
asciilifeform: but one where the physical package is brought out to a 'nuts and bolts' thing that you can screw into an aggregate, tiled, without making pcb
asciilifeform: analogously, the correct thing to make today would be not merely fpga,
asciilifeform: (if they had to try to make ~it~ they would quickly fight with swords again)
asciilifeform: just as afghanis make kalash with hand tools, yes, but do not worry about getting ammo, it is gettable
asciilifeform: my take on it, is that if you are using some industrial product in this, it absolutely has to be something available in MASSIVE qty, readily
asciilifeform: you did not make anything, really, and you relied on a supply chain that is quite likely unstable, esp. if you become 'interesting' ☟︎
asciilifeform: but then the act is only scarcely different from using fpga.
asciilifeform: (in many modern plants, the things are purchased pre-prepped)