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mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic especially the non-mirrored 32 bit ones, yeah.
mircea_popescu: 35 mod 4 = 3. we don't know the p, but if you were given to guess, it wouldn't be such a crazy guess to guess it also is.
Apocalyptic: especially the non-trivially large ones
Apocalyptic: no idea why these weird exponents were chosen
Apocalyptic: mircea_popescu: I saw that
Apocalyptic: (back to the Z/pZ case, if p = 3 (mod 4), the square root of c is simply c^((p+1)/4), so just a simple exponentiation)
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic note the weak Northrop Grumman / navy.mil keys were all 2^n + 1, ie 16385
Apocalyptic: in Z/pZ where p is prime , if p = 1 (mod 4) it can be done in O(log^3 p), that I know
mircea_popescu: bear in mind some of these exponents are actually 1 x.x
mircea_popescu: well last i looked at it the field appeared to be moving, is all i'm saying.
Apocalyptic: afaik square roots are quite doable, higher not so much, but this I only remember this vaguely
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic i like this style, works easier to copy/paste.
mircea_popescu: tho to be fair iirc they were getting results with computing n-th roots
Apocalyptic: it wasn't quite obvious that the bold nickname is in fact a link, I think it would help to have the date with the link before the name like in the b-a log
mircea_popescu: and yes, it's practically lost, but i was keeping it more on a math level. possibly should put it as comment there.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> srsly, e == 1 ?!!! << i had one on trilema article too. it's mindbending
Apocalyptic: nevermind that search part, I missed the link
Apocalyptic: here it's smaller there is no chance at all this happens obviously
Apocalyptic: "In practice, however, it is a lot cheaper to pick a prime exponent, than to check and make sure the exponent shares no factors with N or phi(N)" is there even something checking that e is coprime to N ? this would mean that e is necessarily a multiple of p or q, a case you would be extremely unlucky to get, in the somehow dubious case your e is larger than any of those prime. In the more usual case w
Apocalyptic: Re "However, e must be coprimeiii with phi(N), because otherwise messages encrypted can no longer be singularily decrypted (ie, the decryption process allows multiple ambiguous solutions)" it's not even that there are multiple solutions, but afaik there is no algo with a reasonable complexity to even recover them, since this implies computing an n-th root in Z/NZ
Apocalyptic: however no fucking way to date the result, hence to get the whole conversation about it. Seems quite useless
Apocalyptic: asciilifeform: re e == 1, I was going to refer to the infamous salt commit and madduck, but I get it has already been discussed since http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=madduck yields a result
asciilifeform: i oughta add a whole page for these..
asciilifeform: i'll take a look
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ought to be in order they were walked.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are items on the sadmod page presented in random order ?
mircea_popescu has had enough of this.
mircea_popescu: dude seriously, the jack of cards braindamalogy ?
mircea_popescu: if i ever write a novel about russians, fucking and lying it will be titled exactly that. Tretyi Zhurnalist, Dama.
mircea_popescu: (term of art, discussed here once, but it is possible i was speaking to myself)
phf: i was just marveling at the idea that you can you bludgeon and scalpel from the same cause, but always going for the second one reveals something about a thought process
a111: Logged on 2016-04-23 17:19 phf: only in tmsr would i be the gentlest one ha
mircea_popescu: anyway, i asked specifically to point out to you what a good job of it you're doing, expecting as per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-23#1456525 that you wouldn't know. nothing more. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (and yes, that's approximately the first and best measure of trained slave - does she move into the lash ?)
mircea_popescu: phf that is correct, nevertheless, only little bitches shy from pain. girl can learn to move into the lash within a few months. writer should be fucking born with it.
mod6: these kids are doing all sorts of funny things with these keys
mircea_popescu: yes yes, this conversation'd have sounded pretty lulzy in mpscii.
mircea_popescu: this has got to be debatable. over here you can't get two derps to pronounce ll the same way you telling me stalin managed somehow ?
mircea_popescu: мультивер and многомерност. mult... hey, russian actually has the aproximate lateral palatal ?! i had no idea.
BingoBoingo: phf: Being the gentle on in TMSR is a phase most people grow out of.
phf: i think criticism is particularly painful when comes from place of precise understanding. then there's no excuse of "i was misunderstood!!". no, you were understood, and you suck.
phf: only in tmsr would i be the gentlest one ha ☟︎
phf: that's one of the reasons why i couldn't get through far, i read enough of that shit online, to also read emulated version
mircea_popescu: phf anyone ever told you what a white knight you are ?
phf: mircea_popescu: pretty sure that's meta-narrative, i.e. introduction written by inept first person
mircea_popescu: i can't begin to tell you how many lashes i distributed to innocent slave girls that wanted to start with a summary, a pile of hedges, some insurance, contextualization and what the fuck now.
mircea_popescu: just tell your story.
mircea_popescu: this habit of "introduction" and "setting" and "explaining" and generally being a borderline sleeve neurotic tard is what sinks most writers that ever had a prayer. for the love of fuck - it's EXACTLY like talking to the police. NEVER say anything. not ever. fuck the intro - if the reader can't figure one out that works for him, he has no business reading.
asciilifeform: iirc rough bio of mr p: went to engineering school, dropped out to sell ibm pc xt clones in early '90s, made megatonne of megabux, got into lsd, went off to write (at first short stories, for phree) then b00kz etc.
mircea_popescu: really, nod to scientific dogma ? ffs.
mircea_popescu: ok, what is this inept shit!
mircea_popescu: my better ones had plain producer markings (AGFA in thick red font was the best thing of my childhood). the cruddier ones had xerox'd pictures of who knows what.
asciilifeform: hey my tapes had plain white coverz
asciilifeform: back when i used to get the physical items via new york importer
mircea_popescu: have you seen vhs tapes ?
asciilifeform: at any rate, i have not until now ~seen~ this cover, remember, i read warez
asciilifeform: because tard publishing houses
asciilifeform: has mircea_popescu ever seen ru sf b00k covers ? they are all like this.
mircea_popescu: veliky hamster lol. "this cover made by a graphical artist whose distinction is that the text is somewhat funny."
mircea_popescu: and she "contributed" that miserable design ?
mircea_popescu: is he the sort of tard that twu wuvs some sort of derpy yoko ono "artist" woman
asciilifeform: i will point out that covers traditionally are drawn by folks who read 0 page
phf: i could through a handful of pages before giving up, the book cover is just obnoxious
phf: well, he's normally that, but he's also into Eastern Spirituality so he's zen until provoked
asciilifeform: he's typically more that.
mircea_popescu: what happened to "fuck you, i use physical terms because i invented all of it and if you don't understand anything tell your father to stop drinking."
mircea_popescu: why is this pelevin fellow so modest.
asciilifeform: l0l contrary to popular belief i dun operate on geological time.
mircea_popescu: and when i say "he codes well", what i mean is of the following type : yes he nearly moved the site before building the link bridge. BUT! that is easily fixed. what is not easily fixed is that everyone else would have made a link bridge that treated /gpgkey/xxx correctly, but left /stat hanging. he didn't, his /stat redirects correctly also.
asciilifeform: with linx to relevant thingz.
mircea_popescu: is there a link ?
mircea_popescu: all the shit i never read, i am cursed to forever rewrite.
asciilifeform: which is 100% about this
asciilifeform: that mircea_popescu is more or less rewriting pelevin's 'love of the three zuckerbrins'
deedbot: [Trilema] The Darkening - http://trilema.com/2016/the-darkening/
asciilifeform: currently working on url rewriter to avoid breaking logz links.
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG mircea_popescu et al! nosuchlabs.com now points to a www. phuctor now at phuctor.nosuchlabs.com .
asciilifeform: pretty sure it became sop and the harvesters run to this day.
asciilifeform: iirc somebody found just this
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i put the first in log myself! but teh second bwahahah. hightop eh.
shinohai: The lulz continiue ... a .mil this time xD
mircea_popescu: yaya, he popped out of nowhere last year trying to be relevant.
davout: asciilifeform mircea_popescu he's the hashcash guy iirc
asciilifeform long ago lost track of which of these was which.
mircea_popescu: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3B4E8E5C313FB8A63997E829FBD1B5661D3CDF468BF4854EC92F9DCBFB673E9C << is this the redditard by the same name ?
asciilifeform: life is cheap there
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i knew folks in there, massive slave farm
mircea_popescu: of course, no joe bradley listed anywhere there.
mircea_popescu: ait, being, of course, Advanced Information Technology. see say http://heron.nrl.navy.mil/contracts/baa/99BAA/908.htm
mircea_popescu: i suppose there's a DOUBLEWORD to describe this particular flavour of sigint rite ?
asciilifeform: i discarded the dsa crapolade
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the useful subset is a few gb
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how large was the sks dump?
ben_vulpes: i wonder how big that'll end up being
asciilifeform: someone - perhaps even the original user - converted...
asciilifeform: which is why i was astonished to see any in there
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do ssh keys need any mangling to be digestable by phuctor?
ben_vulpes: https://api.github.com/repositories << can start there
mircea_popescu: who wants to do some basic bashing ?
mircea_popescu: walk the major projects, then walk benvulpes' thing.