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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: everyone knows this.
mircea_popescu: due to... your beloved fucking packet size.
shinohai: ;;later tell mod6 nice work
asciilifeform: i want to know, in what sewer was born the rat who thought it was acceptable to break lines on nonwhitespace characters.
jurov: mircea_popescu: mpex accepts orders but won't execute them. some are waiting over 12 hours
mod6: fwiw, i really like wotpaste tho. works great
mod6: i see now, it's in the raw paste, just not the non-raw.
ben_vulpes: thanks mod6 i'll get on that
mod6: maybe it thought it was an HTML thing
mod6: seems that wotpaste stripped out my "<STDIN>" statements.
mod6: And here's the output correct, with the ticket types appended to the top: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/bdf52f96-6e9f-4713-a432-f97e73533a37/
mod6: ok, im a moron, i had my print statements backwards. Here's the updated perl: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/c704e406-8cfe-461a-ac89-4e66e8328d98/ And the ticket file againhttp://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/f7592a15-0f9a-4b8e-b784-9df595e343d9/
mircea_popescu: in other news lovecraft is perhaps the most bombastically incompetent and pompously ungifted literary critic i ever read.
mircea_popescu: anyway, uses the 35 e for a ssh key.
mircea_popescu: last touched last month
mircea_popescu: via phuctor we find that 43-1.org is a thing. then we discover that https://www.43-1.org/~ansgar/apt/
mod6: Hahaha, some optimism in there :]
mircea_popescu: TYPE: Ideal bitcoin Q3 2017 << :D
mod6: Ok, so hopefully will have a much prettier version of this around the end of the month.
mod6: I'm not sure if that was the correct approach, but it "felt right" when I was making that choice.
mod6: On a more philosophical level, I did leave off the idea of ticket 'assignment', simply because I didn't want contributors to not think about a ticket just because their name/keyid isn't assigned to the ticket.
mod6: But, just wanted to give everyone a first look at what is possible here. Please let me know if there is problems or glaring oversights, etc. Thanks in advance.
mod6: I'm gonna keep putting some more thigns in there, it's just something I've been playing with since like Friday.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is very nice work right here.
mod6: Yes Sir. Sounds like a decent plan there.
mircea_popescu: except if you spew it on www, everyone can see the svgs
mod6: and dot files for svg graphs, but if you want to run this, you need "Graph::Easy" installed. It won't effect you if you don't hvae this installed, unless you try to run the graphing tools - just like V.
mircea_popescu: we'll end up with #ai eventually at this rate.
mod6: Also, I wanted to note, that it will print ascii graphs such as: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/bb88df2b-d622-4ce6-bc59-db1beb1a0697/
mod6: yeah, this is true. just need to marshall it around to somewhere and volla.
mircea_popescu: mod6 perl can just dump html pages neh ? run it in a subdir and that's that
mod6: was thinking about collaborating somehow with deedbot to make it update the new wiki somehow.
mod6: mircea_popescu: this has crossed my mind, haven't yet thought on it enough to implement anything as of yet. but yeah, something that would be coool --
mod6: then it'll print out the full list of tickets. if you run `./t.pl` it'll print out the other available commands. such as "add" "rm" or "edit", inwhich a person can do that, change their own list, sign it, and send it to the ML or whatever for review.
mircea_popescu: mod6 could this a) be piped to a www page on foundation site b) have a way to ref from here ?
mod6: this code can be just dropped into say, 't.pl' then `chmod +x t.pl` then `./t.pl tickets.txt`
mircea_popescu: yeah, ok, this is just the ticket, so to speak.
mod6: asciilifeform: yeah, i'm getting there. I'll try to add that soon.
asciilifeform: can haz this in 80col?
mod6: And some codeto view this list: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/db661818-43e3-4e63-b4b1-11bb32a148e2/
mod6: Hey all, so I wanted to not only make a list of objectives as we discussed around the 15th, I wanted to also design a very simple ticket system so we can not only have tickets, but perhaps a roadmap with dependencies. I.e. in the way that you have a larger ticket with dependent subtickets. This could help round out a road map to larger 'sagas' like for this july, and 'ideal bitcoin'.
asciilifeform: i even saw a man commit genuine jaywalking today.
mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as genuine neglect. not that i'm proposing it has bearing.
asciilifeform: that was the kind of american to respect !111
asciilifeform: sometime during this, the story went, he found his wife dangling from noose in that workshop
asciilifeform: so he took a sledge hammer and demolished plane-shaped hole.
asciilifeform: or perhaps he welded them on
asciilifeform: wouldn't bother to take them wingz off to get it out
ben_vulpes: actual thing in buenos aires
asciilifeform: turned out, old owner built his airplane in there.
asciilifeform: i once knew a fella whose father's house had a peculiar, oblong mark in the brickwork behind garage.
asciilifeform: nobody forgot how to make the bicycle cardboard thingies.
mircea_popescu: so are you saying this problem is purely political and technology, be it planes or crochet, won't fix it ?!
asciilifeform: and not taking up space on road, in air, in the sea, etc.
asciilifeform: or in the ground
asciilifeform: 19 of every 20 derps in the motherfucking cars belong, at best, in servant's quarters
ben_vulpes: get real, right parents, right time.
mircea_popescu was lucky enough to grow up hating the right things!
mircea_popescu: luck ain't got nothing to do with it!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: was lucky enough to destroy the things he grew up hating
mircea_popescu: you two sound distinctly like retired dentists in florida retirement home.
ben_vulpes: "west coast! covered wagons, right? have they wired portland for AC yet?"
ben_vulpes: if you get your way with hauschwitz it should be academic, barring grocery trips
ben_vulpes: yes, plenty, i have been to one recently.
asciilifeform: or still pull teeth by tying to door.
asciilifeform: do they even have dentists in such towns
ben_vulpes: in a town the auto hasn't ruined
asciilifeform: iirc if you calc the 'millimorts', the max theoretical lifespan of usian is CAPPED at somewhere like 300 yrs (taken, yes, with eternally unchanging Reich) PURELY by the car.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Also transportation. How else do people in the know go between southern, middle, and western illinois?
asciilifeform: where, i ask, is the fear of the car ??
mircea_popescu: might also be the fear of flying.
asciilifeform: it is the bureaucracy.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: in the conversations context ofc, i know they exist and are used by self-dusting farmers
asciilifeform: and it isn't even that the machines are costly, my car, when was new, cost ~= what a gently used 2seater would.
ben_vulpes: beause dentist is half sane, picks good market, commutes by plane to place
asciilifeform: where the dentists take off.
asciilifeform: i live right next to one such place
ben_vulpes: jesus you really need this spelled out?
ben_vulpes: also dentists fly gliders all the time wtf
ben_vulpes: because if there are highly stable craft the thing approaches golf
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because all patients too fat to move ?
asciilifeform: why would a dentist need to fly around ?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-25 02:54 ben_vulpes: individuals can stay up for quite some time, but if you have any concentration of them taking off at 7a to get to work, there's your density-close-to-the-ground problem
ben_vulpes: only that "planes for dentists" is just as panglossian
mircea_popescu: nobody's arguing that, either.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't that you have no point, but that the 'usgificated air is the best world' is a panglossism.
ben_vulpes: people go to market for a /reason/
ben_vulpes: must we rehash 'market' thread?
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: erco alone shipped a few dozen / day just in this town
ben_vulpes: other places where one person was landing uncontrolledly at a time?
mircea_popescu: you know why ? for the same reason, let's call it the illinois-indiana reason\
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know who loved the 40s more than usians ? argentines.
ben_vulpes: yes ofc points in 3space nigh impossible to get close to each other
ben_vulpes: lanes are temporal in asciilifeform plane new world
mircea_popescu: no "because" a mother offers is EVER worth the shit it's written in.
asciilifeform: anything short of teleporter would naturally not abolish this, and petrol is quite dear, but still.
mircea_popescu: so the phrasing would change. would the phraseology change please you ?
asciilifeform: but thread was re locations.
mircea_popescu: if plane were like bus, it would STILL fail to make all house cost the same.
mircea_popescu: bus exists, fails to make all restaurants cost the same