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jborkl_: I ran .7 and .8 versions, If I had run testnet and made a 1mb block I would have most likely broken .7
smickles: jborkl_: I do wish they had tested .8 better. tis could've been caught
Namworld: I'll be back later
Namworld: I offer 0.03% daily on funds here.
mircea_popescu: "It's about as bad as everywhere else on the planet, I guess, with the single exception of Romania," Asia Pacific Network Information Centre's chief scientist, Geoff Huston, said in an interview with ZDNet Australia.
kakobrekla: unaffection comes to bitbet so naturally i wont be posting any signes.
Bowjob: well, i watched it from 45, drop to 42.5 .. i see each cent dropping
midnightmagic: More likely it was a side-business for coin laundry, but none of the miners could ever (far as I know) figure out where the coins were coming *from*.
midnightmagic: I don't know why you say that.
mircea_popescu: i don't think so. gpumax dissapeared with pirate, as the sane people were saying back in february 2012.
midnightmagic: I think gpumax is the counterexample to that assertion (that they'd make more by mining)
midnightmagic: .. but you defined the two choices earlier. I'm not agreeing that the choices match reality. I'm just hanging out in your hypothetical land because you invited me.
midnightmagic: Also, if the money is on the side of the all-use-cases-are-valid (i.e. gambling and drugs, hypothetically) then obviously the money is where the attacker goes.
midnightmagic: I'd preferentially attack the ones who appeared to be more philosophically aligned with the notion of attack.
mircea_popescu: i guess it doesn't convey, let me try another way.
midnightmagic: You could just say so, I'd stop.
midnightmagic: I don't know what that means.
midnightmagic: also economical savvy (as all attackers I have seen have been extremely insightful economically)
mircea_popescu: i think so.
BingoBongo: Ah, this is kind of what I was thinking. I must have read without expressing the sentiment. I believe I've read similar on Trilema as well.
BingoBongo: mircea_popescu I might have, I'll recheck her post history.
BingoBongo: And mircea_popescu many will probably try to sweep it under the rug as LevelDB is broken, because it isn't BerkelyDB. You're on the right track, but I think this was probably the wrong error...
midnightmagic: I don't see how a rationale (which Satoshi himself started, btw, by requesting that Wikileaks not use bitcoin yet,) is the snowball accretion of full-blown theosophy.
midnightmagic: I see no examples of political theosophy. You clearly have something in mind: out with it. :)
mircea_popescu: i am aware.
mircea_popescu: i guess they don't read english any better than they read their own code.
mircea_popescu: i said the moment devs try to act like priests and leverage the obscurity of their bad code into political theosophy... they're screwed.
midnightmagic: Yes I read that.
mircea_popescu: actually, i said it months ago.
mircea_popescu: not really. but i am saying that the current stuff has to go.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic im not leading anything, but i'm not standing for nonsensical crap either.
midnightmagic: (and by surprised, I mean, "not very surprised")
midnightmagic: You know for someone who complains about it so much I'm surprised you're taking such an interest in leading a takeover.. :-)
mircea_popescu: I think this means that bitcoin is in jeopardy.
midnightmagic: people who use bitcoin are the people I'm talking about.
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i wouldbn't bet on "people" mattering
BingoBongo: Happier bottle http://i.imgur.com/jUQ6z.jpg?1
BingoBongo: I give it probably 3 years for a full move from code control to stardardized and documented.
mircea_popescu: i am starting to see that.
Bowjob: oh well. i'll take what i can
ThickAsThieves: i'm not sure if gox is fully open yet
BingoBongo: I'm making a trip to the Pawn Shop tomorrow and loading up on fiat for the opportunity that should arise these next few weeks. The DFI I use is indicating a "correction" to $15-$35 within 2 or 3 weeks, confidence interval of 66.7%
BingoBongo: I imagine there's a large low information"Investor" population that through inertia or ignorance recognizes what a small hiccup this should have been... When they start looking for people to inform them though....
Bowjob: I'd let the bears have a go at it for now
Bowjob: I'm watching from coinlab
Ukto: well, as I stated before.. weex wallet is the perfect example of correctnes
maximian: I think we can expect the exchange rate to be depressed for a while.
Bowjob: I printed an order page for topace, but then hes like nope. dont transact
rodeo: I thought the ending was a bit anti climatic
Bowjob: ah.. btc-e. I lose my mind on that trollbox
ThickAsThieves: well i see one problem
mircea_popescu: won't be learned tho, i bet.
mircea_popescu: i guess the lesson here is that programmers have no business arguing with financiers.
rodeo: Once the ophaned chain take over again BTCguild will get > 10 blocks I wounder how they will credit it
mod6: i have 0.7.1 ...
ThickAsThieves: i assume my bet was rejected
Bowjob: so basically if i get this right, those mining on 0.8 are wasting their time
ThickAsThieves: but i also wanna watch the fireworks
ThickAsThieves: i wanna sleep
ThickAsThieves: it'll be a few hours i guess
ThickAsThieves: we want the "orphaned" one to win I believe
Bowjob: so I have to keep trading until I bring it down to 1%
Bowjob: dont i get charged per trade?
benkay: oh i see, chain size and this fork i are idiots
Chaang-Noi: pigeons you have not explained what you think the issue is yet you say what i said is silly... it is hard to attack a point you wont state
Chaang-Noi: we can fix it with out too much issue, and i ahve been trying to get peole to move
Chaang-Noi: also i have more faith in the ltc pools to change this cuz it is a small network now
Chaang-Noi: honestly this issue is one of the reasons i went so hard core into ltc
mircea_popescu: if it gets to the point where i am raising objections and they make sense
mircea_popescu: jesus i'm clueless about bitcoin internals.
Chaang-Noi: i agree it should ahve been changed by now
mircea_popescu: Chaang-Noi i don't care what the excuse is.
the-bucket-shop: I'm sure this stuff will happen at $5B too. that's like the size of the New York School district
the-bucket-shop: I'm an s.dice shareholder btw
smickles: mircea_popescu: i only have a self taught understanding of technicals and i see it, so people who trade on technicals probably see it too and are taking action
Ukto: i suppose its an okay response to kneejerk reaction
Ukto: i found that funny >,>
ThickAsThieves: i cant see wall st investing in something that is controlled by devs in IRC
benkay: i hope morgan and co drop the ball hard
dub: was there an alert sent to 0.8? I don't see it in .7
benkay: i bet < 5 minutes
smickles: dub: and i don't think i said they were responsible, i said they forced the issue
smickles: dub: i can see that we disagree, but i don't think the limit should be raised until the necessary txfee is unreasonably high
smickles: hmm, i recall there being thousands of unconfirmed txns for months and months
mod6: im not trying to troll, i don't know srsly.
smickles: it's stuff i recall from studying science tho
mod6: uhhh, i dunno
smickles: mod6: i thought all electrons were indistinguishable as far as our best tech can tell
smickles: ah, i think i screwed up my look at it then
mircea_popescu: PeterL they're even now or am i on delayed data ?
PeterL: I think in the past hour the 'right' chain has gone up 5 blocks, the 'wrong' one has gone up 2
smickles: if i had enough coins to justify it, i might run one of each
Bowjob: and i hope everyone is actually mining on the 0.72 chain
mircea_popescu: i love the various people on bitcointalk trying to move the conversation
Bowjob: i thoguht its solved already
gesell: the crash and recovery in ascii glory http://i.imgur.com/hgYAta0.gif
mircea_popescu: have i ?
mircea_popescu: no i meant blocvk height
kakobrekla: what i said.
smickles: topace_: as a regualr user, i dunno. but it'll switch over automatically when the .7 chain is longer