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jcpham: i'm doing much better in the poll today
kakobrekla: oh i read that "in summary the coinbase is defenetly useful" and got a heart attack almost
mircea_popescu: mod6 i don't know who's listening to them.
mod6: i'd love to take the time to audit that shit, but who wants to fight with LukeJr and the others?
jurov: but maybe i'm just crazy, going into anything
jurov: mod6 good for ya. i did touch it and it didn't hurt.
mod6: so i'll just my retard ass out of there
mod6: i never wanted to touch bitcoin's client or anything else because the #bitcoin-dev is filled with pompus retards
mod6: i dunno, i guess i'd have to spend some time in there. and the client needs to be combed through
mircea_popescu: i don't even mean government necessarily.
MJR_: I think a central clearing corp, that only needs to transfer the diff between exchanges will be the best way
MJR_: I can't remember your exact quote mircea_popescu but something like "if you want to use crypto currency but don't understand cryptography..."
MJR_: I think bitcoin-assets is the bleeding edge of the bleeding edge
MJR_: I think it's multicast tcp?
mircea_popescu: mod6 originally i thought it was udp p2p
MJR_: I wrote a program to monitor how often we need to fail over to TCp for our data feeds
mod6: any thoughts on that? anyone know what I'm referring to?
MJR_: but also...I really think node and branch will be needed
mircea_popescu: mod6 one of the key reasons why i keep the code closed.
MJR_: I agree
MJR_: I really think a gpg based order system would be nice
MJR_: anyway I think there is a ton of room for competition to mt gox
pigeons: sorry i meant virwox
mircea_popescu: i'll add it to research list cause wtf.
mircea_popescu: usure ? cause i wrote about this and iirc shrem was saying btc
MJR_: I meant the bitcoin exchanges
pizzaman1337: well, there must be some info on it somewhere that I could get access too
pizzaman1337: so what is the "proper" way to run an exchange? where can I read about this?
MJR_: well...last I checked there was only one exchange that hasn't been hacked
mod6: i got trolled so hard by my gf for this shit yesterday
mod6: i don't think im smart enough for this stuff.
MJR_: well, again I think that could happen on a larger scale...
mircea_popescu: Mar 11 09:19:14 <mod6> think i just need to add some sleep time....
mircea_popescu: personally i think the solution is fixing, but
mod6: i was thinking about the gox issue...
mircea_popescu: i imagine a number of people are.
mod6: i couldn't possibly remember them all
mircea_popescu: ya but i mean, why ?
mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/HzcprPZ.png
mircea_popescu: pigeons i fear it'll take me a little to digest this one
mircea_popescu: this is possibly the worst case of "hi i am calling to report a bug" bungled tech support ever.
mircea_popescu: oh i see yeah
pigeons: "If anyone has any idea how I can buy a large amount of bitcoins please message me. The largest amount I can buy from bitinstant is $500 worth ive looked and looked and its near impossible to make a large bitcoin purchase anywhere."
pigeons: "if I was a scammer I could be living it up easy some place warm instead of braving the same upstate new york winters I have been for 30+ years"
pigeons: today I downloaded .7 and have been patiently waiting for my blockchain to download, im not sure if I will continue refunds or just buy a big crack rock and smoke it in a cave some where but I am totally offended by this scammer tag
kakobrekla: i have some oldish txes
imsaguy: I am one of the unidentifieds
ThickAsThieves: i'm just stuck on meta thoughts lately, i think its lack of sleep
smickles: oh, i should read
imsaguy: but I don't know how often it updates
smickles: where's the statics on what version people are running, i think there are a bunch still on .3
imsaguy: I'm not advocating they do this
Namworld: Anyway, I'm out.
ThickAsThieves: i know *I* can't contol what devs and pools do
smickles: i suppose i could
mircea_popescu: smickles i think it's a fine measure as it is really.
mircea_popescu: once i get the rest online, can you measure the lag for the entire $proxies list ?
benkay: i get it man i get it
mircea_popescu: mpex could trade on beenz if i wanted to, it's completely btc agnostic.
smickles: benkay: i could have it place an order, to test, but the problem would be cancelling that order later
mircea_popescu: i've seen > 100 on testnet with the future config
mircea_popescu: benkay i've seen > 10 orders per second irl
ThickAsThieves: so i know they me seem ignorant, but just thinking out loud, is there not a way to make the bitcoin software part of the blockchain itself?
mircea_popescu: o boy will i be having fun with this.
mircea_popescu: and incidentally, i wonder what OTHER exploits are there for berkley
mircea_popescu: how would i know ?
Namworld: No, I mean malicious stuff from knowing ahead of time about a fork.
jborkl_: I like Death and Taxes response
Namworld: I think being heavily dependant on miners is actually what Satoshi wanted... miners vote with their hashing power... That's exactly how the system is supposed to work.
mircea_popescu: some of the funniest shit i read all day.
Namworld: Only bob I know around these parts.
mircea_popescu: should be like twentysomething i would guess
Namworld: If it was a written text, I might make less omissions. When chatting tho, I type fast and usually omit things.
mircea_popescu: imsaguy i think he's doing something with silver atm
Namworld: I think you are very literal on what sentences mean and interpret as little as possible. You avoid making too many inferences during a conversation so even small omissions can result in misunderstandings.
MJR_: has anyone ever said "bitcoin-assets is great but I just wish it had as much drama as bitcointalk.com"
mircea_popescu: imsaguy should i grep log for imsaguy ? :D
imsaguy: I have a shitton to say
imsaguy: I'm glad I'm not almost everyone else
MJR_: ah I see
Namworld: Almost all misunderstandings on Bitcoin IRC are with you. I usually go about quite well with almost everyone else.
mircea_popescu: of course i do.
Namworld: Actually I find you go about things in a different way than anyone else...
mircea_popescu: i enjoy arguing with him mostly because he seems to go about things in a totally different way than anyone else
Namworld: That's new. I don't recall that.
Namworld: I hate it when I forget something in a sentence and I'm getting argued against for 10 minutes when I have the same point of view as the one arguing against me.
Namworld: mircea: I was referring to testing of .8 alone. I'm made an omission in it. I've been trying to correct myself for like the last few minutes =/
Namworld: I'm talking about people making such claims... not about me making the same claims =/
Namworld: THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M FUCKING CLAIMING THAT THE ISSUE AIN'T ON .8!
Namworld: ah, I see.
smickles: personall, i include previous version interaction in the testing of one version
Namworld: This is the only thing I'm trying to say.
jborkl_: Yeah, me too- I don't like being the first to change- bit me too many times
Namworld: Don't you get it? I'm trying to refute people who think the issue is with .8 and that .8 alone should have been tested more...
MJR_: Namworld: I think what they mean is that part of testing a new release is testing it's interactions with other versions for backward compatiblity
mircea_popescu: jborkl_ i've always been slow to upgrade, specifically for lack of faith.
smickles: Namworld: i believe they do test for interaction with older versions
jborkl_: I just solo mined on .72 again last night until it was all figured out- I knew I kept .72 around and running for a reason
Namworld: I know... but people everywhere say that .8 should have been tested more so the issue would have been found.
Namworld: I'm not saying it couldn't have been found, I'm just refuting that doing more testing on .8 would have given any result.